Getting IP addresses
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#1 Jan 15, 2013
I understand that IP addresses can be obtained of posts. Does it take a subpoena?
Legal Matters

Sharon, SC

#2 Jan 15, 2013
No, I am fairly certain it doesn't. I was able to have a very tech savvy friend to find the IP address of a user on here and I am currently working up a lawsuit for slander against them. It's actually quite easy to find out who is posting and where they are posting from. Anonimity is a joke these days.
Missy

Bowling Green, KY

#3 Jan 15, 2013
Well good luck with your attorneys and fee's. If anyone out there wants to know what I have posted, I will be kindly enough to tell them what is they want to know. See I don't have much of a life these days, because i let myself be played. As for suing someone, you can't get blood out of turnip. My name has already been slandered and drug threw the mud. But see i don't care because half of my problem is my fault just as the other half was their fault. I don't know how many of u have been thru a lawsuit & the mental stress it causes, i have been delaing with one for almost 3 years with 16 different derrogatories/allegations. It is anywhere near from being settled & even if i do get a judgment, there is no guarentee i will get anything because the defendant can turn around & file bankrupcy on it & i won't get a cent. Now if u have mooney & time to waste & don't want your entire family humilated even more in public, i would think long & hard because it's not a picnic. Best thing to do is ignore what is posted. It can't keep u from losing your job or prevent u from getting one unless the allegations of what is posted are true, then u got another big problem that will not go in your favor. How about people try & work their issues out with the person that it is causing it for u? There must be a reason someone is upset with u, so remind yourself of what u have done.
guest

Cookeville, TN

#4 Jan 15, 2013
Legal Matters wrote:
No, I am fairly certain it doesn't. I was able to have a very tech savvy friend to find the IP address of a user on here and I am currently working up a lawsuit for slander against them. It's actually quite easy to find out who is posting and where they are posting from. Anonimity is a joke these days.
I feel sorry sometimes for people on here it seems like some people can e relentless and not know when to let go. I hope everything turns around eventually for you
Another guest

Cookeville, TN

#5 Jan 15, 2013
From what I've read, a person can obtain an IP address but it can become quite costly and often results in nothing happening to the offender. I've never been hassled on here but I would probably give it a few days to see if it dies down. Most likely, it will just go away. People are fickle and will find something else to talk about soon. In the meantime, sorry you're having a hard time. Hope it let's up soon!
Just FYI

Cookeville, TN

#6 Jan 15, 2013
Truth is actually a defense for slander, so if the alleged libel has fact behind it, you may be wasting your money. And if you are a public figure, you will have to prove actual malice was intended, which is much more difficult that it sounds. Another Guest is right- most threads die down quickly, and I have heard that if you contact Topix, they will remove certain threads. Best of luck!
Tech savvy

Manchester, TN

#7 Jan 15, 2013
Legal Matters wrote:
No, I am fairly certain it doesn't. I was able to have a very tech savvy friend to find the IP address of a user on here and I am currently working up a lawsuit for slander against them. It's actually quite easy to find out who is posting and where they are posting from. Anonimity is a joke these days.
All of the above is false....you do need a subpoena and a case. Very tech savvy friends can't get IP without it. And very tech savvy friend needs to be a lawyer or the police. So quit trying to impress.
Secure

Clarkrange, TN

#8 Jan 15, 2013
Legal Matters wrote:
No, I am fairly certain it doesn't. I was able to have a very tech savvy friend to find the IP address of a user on here and I am currently working up a lawsuit for slander against them. It's actually quite easy to find out who is posting and where they are posting from. Anonimity is a joke these days.
Also, if you were actually speaking to a lawyer who knew anything at all, they would correct you and tell you it's libel, not slander. If you're going to accuse someone of something (especially legally), you really should know the correct terms.
Robert

Lees Summit, MO

#9 Jan 15, 2013
I am pretty sure if Topix started revealing IP addresses this place would be a ghost town!
NOPE

Cookeville, TN

#10 Jan 15, 2013
Easy to trace sender of emails but not IP addresses on here.
Legal Matters wrote:
No, I am fairly certain it doesn't. I was able to have a very tech savvy friend to find the IP address of a user on here and I am currently working up a lawsuit for slander against them. It's actually quite easy to find out who is posting and where they are posting from. Anonimity is a joke these days.
hipster

Cookeville, TN

#11 Jan 15, 2013
So how does that work? You just pick the posts that are derogatory and request the IP for that particular poster. Since topix can be read nationally it seems like there could be potentially various posters not all being derogatory or spiteful to the person subjected in the thread......how would the process work?
just saying

Mcminnville, TN

#12 Jan 15, 2013
An IP doesn't always identify the poster. There's far too many ways to mask who and where you are posting from online.
alex

Chatsworth, GA

#13 Jan 15, 2013
also you have to remember where people may post comments from. just because you have a ip address does not necessarily confirm who is posting things.people could be at a library or a mcdonalds or anywhere else they have free wifi.
Yeah I Said That

Fort Myers, FL

#14 Jan 16, 2013
IP addresses are unique to each PC. It's like a telephone number. Tracing them would require hacking the PC to determine the ID of the owner. Email is the easiest way to ID an individual. Also those here who have a registered account would also reveal thier ID. Portal or ISP addresses are used in some cases to track a PC's physical location and not the owner.
GSS

Cookeville, TN

#15 Jan 16, 2013
Then after you get a search warrant and you go to the house if there is one (not a donut shop) it would be impossible to prove who used the computer. Case Dead.

Besides the fact that it takes law enforcement to get and serve the search warrant. Your lawyer can't get or serve a search warrant. Case dead. Civil cases are very hard to prove.
A lawyer

Cookeville, TN

#16 Jan 16, 2013
If you have suffered direct financial loss from the statements or they accused you of criminal activity, then you would first have to file a suit against "John Doe/Jane Doe" and then once you file the suit you get a Subpoena to the website to disclose the IP. Once you have the IP, you have to serve another subpoena on the ISP for the information. As you can imagine this can be costly to pursue. Then if the owner of the IP objects to the subpoena you have to fight their motion to quash the subpoena. Also, if they used a public internet connection, you would have no way to find them. Furthermore, if they are in another state, you have to dismiss your suit in your state and sue in their state to get personal jurisdiction over them. So it is not as easy as a matter as you have read.

And thats the truth....
almost

Mooresville, NC

#17 Jan 16, 2013
Yeah I Said That wrote:
IP addresses are unique to each PC. It's like a telephone number. Tracing them would require hacking the PC to determine the ID of the owner. Email is the easiest way to ID an individual. Also those here who have a registered account would also reveal thier ID. Portal or ISP addresses are used in some cases to track a PC's physical location and not the owner.
Mac addresses are unique to each PC. You can have hundreds if PCs on a network all with the same outgoing IP address.
Yeah I Said That

Fort Myers, FL

#18 Jan 16, 2013
almost wrote:
<quoted text>
Mac addresses are unique to each PC. You can have hundreds if PCs on a network all with the same outgoing IP address.
You are correct, I stand corrected. I forgot that the MAC address ID is the one tied to the PC and not the IP which is tied to servers or Internet Providers. Thanks.
Wrong

Crossville, TN

#19 Jan 16, 2013
Yeah I Said That wrote:
IP addresses are unique to each PC. It's like a telephone number. Tracing them would require hacking the PC to determine the ID of the owner. Email is the easiest way to ID an individual. Also those here who have a registered account would also reveal thier ID. Portal or ISP addresses are used in some cases to track a PC's physical location and not the owner.
No they aren't, and most people's IP address changes every time they connect to the internet (or every week, month, etc.) Unless you have invested in your own personal static IP addresses for your own personal network, IP addresses are not personally identifiable. They'll reveal the location of your local ISP or their headquarters elsewhere in the nation and then, if the IPs have changed since the offending activity had been comitted, you'd require FBI Cybercrime resources to track down the individual. There's a reason the people behind pirating schemes and online identity theft rings take years to catch, if they ever are.
Wrong

Crossville, TN

#20 Jan 16, 2013
almost wrote:
<quoted text>
Mac addresses are unique to each PC. You can have hundreds if PCs on a network all with the same outgoing IP address.
Not always. Many manufacturers reuse old MAC numbers and operating systems can override them, especially with intentional user input. Some routers also offer a 'clone' functionality to ensure that the MAC address of every computer on the network is the same.

In Summary:
IP addresses are almost never personally identifiable.
MAC addresses are sometimes personally identifiable, but as long as your router is separated from the server (website) that
you are connecting to by at least one other router, which is almost always the case, they would not have access your MAC address.

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