Is West Leyden schhol going to be shutting down?

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angry

Long Lake, NY

#1 Apr 23, 2013
i heard from a good source today they will be within the next 3 years so don't go building any new houses or buying new cars!
tired

Wells, NY

#2 Apr 23, 2013
That was the plan from the start. closed C-ville and then Glenfield elementary and combine them with port leyden. Then its too many kids for one school so guess what? The new school has to be built that was turned down before. This way they can force the issue they wanted in the first place.
Sad But True

East Syracuse, NY

#3 Apr 23, 2013
I don't see where Aditondack has a choice. Enrollment is down at West Leyden and Forestport. The State has massively cut aid to the schools and West Leyden is old. It costs a fortune in upkeep and heating expense. The residents will never vote for the school budget increase it would take to keep West Leyden open.

But, even though the number of children only justifies having two elementary schools, the district is geographically huge. There are going to be kindergarteners with a more than 1 hour bus ride to school.
Wrong District

East Syracuse, NY

#4 Apr 23, 2013
tired wrote:
That was the plan from the start. closed C-ville and then Glenfield elementary and combine them with port leyden. Then its too many kids for one school so guess what? The new school has to be built that was turned down before. This way they can force the issue they wanted in the first place.
First, West Leyden is in the Adirondack School District, not South Lewis.

Second, Port Leyden could not hold the all students from Glenfield so there's no immediate danger of Glenfield closing.

Third, South Lewis realy should have voted yes on the Land Purchase. Then they could have had a brand new Elementary School Building and all the busses would run to one central location. It wasn't going to take any increase in school taxes.

I can't think of any other districts in the area that don't have the same location for their Elementary School and Sr/Jr High.
Wrong District

East Syracuse, NY

#5 Apr 23, 2013
Wrong District wrote:
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I can't think of any other districts in the area that don't have the same location for their Elementary School and Sr/Jr High.
Besides South Lewis and Adirondack, I mean.
mom

Long Lake, NY

#6 Apr 24, 2013
will any teachers lose their job at wl?
SDuper

Gloversville, NY

#7 Apr 24, 2013
mom wrote:
will any teachers lose their job at wl?
NO we will keep them to mow the lawn and shovel snow there. Just what the Hell do you think will happen?
zipper

Long Lake, NY

#8 Apr 24, 2013
Maybe some wont think their the shit don't stink then!
Sad But True

Boonville, NY

#9 Apr 24, 2013
mom wrote:
will any teachers lose their job at wl?
It's hard to say. No teachers lost their job when C'ville closed. The state mandates a certain ratio of teachers to students and you cannot go below that.

Lunch personnel, and custodians will lose their job though. Possibly some administrators.
Tired

Indian Lake, NY

#10 Apr 25, 2013
Wrong District wrote:
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First, West Leyden is in the Adirondack School District, not South Lewis.
Second, Port Leyden could not hold the all students from Glenfield so there's no immediate danger of Glenfield closing.
Third, South Lewis realy should have voted yes on the Land Purchase. Then they could have had a brand new Elementary School Building and all the busses would run to one central location. It wasn't going to take any increase in school taxes.
I can't think of any other districts in the area that don't have the same location for their Elementary School and Sr/Jr High.
I was wrong and i do admit that but there is some things you are wrong on also. There are quite a few schools in jefferson and st lawrance counties with separate schools and even some with seperate school bus stations. The vote was shot down because it was proven that taxes would be raised even though it was presented that it wouldnt for the public to see and thats why many people were against it. There have been talks of people looking at buying the glenfield elementary for a business so it may be quicker then you think about moving kids to port leyeden. You are right though that there isnt enough room there to hold them all. It will happen and when it does then watch your taxes because a big project like that always comes in over budget. where do you think the extra money comes from to make up the difference. It has happened on many projects around here that it came in over budget by at least 10%
No political bias

Boonville, NY

#11 Apr 25, 2013
Close it, declining enrollment, and it needs a ton of work which was just voted down as a capital project. Yes , it is a long bus ride but with the money situation it's the only choice... Make arrangements to car pool with other parents in your area. It will happen.....
Wrong District

Boonville, NY

#12 Apr 25, 2013
Tired wrote:
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I was wrong and i do admit that but there is some things you are wrong on also. There are quite a few schools in jefferson and st lawrance counties with separate schools and even some with seperate school bus stations. The vote was shot down because it was proven that taxes would be raised even though it was presented that it wouldnt for the public to see and thats why many people were against it. There have been talks of people looking at buying the glenfield elementary for a business so it may be quicker then you think about moving kids to port leyeden. You are right though that there isnt enough room there to hold them all. It will happen and when it does then watch your taxes because a big project like that always comes in over budget. where do you think the extra money comes from to make up the difference. It has happened on many projects around here that it came in over budget by at least 10%
Your response was very well thought out and polite, I appreciate that. I am much more familiar with the schools south of us than to the north so I'll take your word on the ones with separate sites for elementary buildings.

I know that grant money was available to cover the cost of a new elementary building for South Lewis and that efficiency gains from reduced staff, maintenance, and bussing would have made the existing budget go a lot farther. But who can predict how it would have all played out. I'm sure you're right that it would have gone over budget.

I also know Doug Premo's balance sheet did improve significantly with the closing of C'ville. But it's still not feasible to send all the kids to Port Leyden and Doug would never attempt it.

However, he has not given up on his plans to have one central elementary school. Perhaps if Glenfield could be sold it would provide the cash to purchase other land adjacent to the Jr/Sr High.

And since a new school could not possibly be built over the summer, it would force him to re-open C'ville temporarily. That's going to be a tough sell to the public.
sick of bias

Rome, NY

#13 May 26, 2013
I have lived in ACS District from before it began in the West Leyden portion.The vote for the consolidation was illegal, votes from Booville and West Leyden were combined and counted, not separate counts for each community as should be by law. NY State was pushing hard for consolidations then as they are now. Fears from the beginning were that the community of Boonville would control the district and walk all over Forestport and West Leyden. That has been kept under control for forty+ years. I have many dear friends in Boonville, not hate for the town. A study commissioned by ACS a few years ago and done by Dr. Silky of Syracuse recommended closing Forestport and reconfiguring Boonville K-5 and sending some of the bus routes west of Boonville to WL to better utilize buildings (I have nothing against Forestport, know many nice people there and the kids out on North Lake Rd. have quite a long ride). WL Elementary is 10 miles from the lowest part of it's area (Lee Center). The Stokes school(Rome) is less than a mile from some of these residences. Preschoolers attend from this area...would You want your preschooler riding almost 20 miles to school? How many of these preschoolers and K-3 kids are going to have "accidents" to or from school, would you want your kid embarassed repeatly this way? What happens if they consolidate bus runs and these youngest children spend an hour on the bus, is that fair to them? How about Winter, several times the buses have been held at West Leyden because of the conditions, also students were taken back to West Leyden after a bus accident during a whiteout above West Branch...that would no longer be an option. When I think of the children in the school district I try to think of them all and I wish no ones school to be closed. West Leyden is already far away from some of these children's neighborhood, don't make it worse. By the way, these people in the town of Lee pay the highest property taxes in the ACS District...along with Lyonsdale and Ohio (North Lake Rd.)both also at the edges of the district. The school should think of the needs of all...those who think otherwise are bised and obviously wouldn't be affected.
sick of bias

Rome, NY

#14 May 26, 2013
Excuse the spelling errors..was too fired up to spell-check.
sick of bias

Rome, NY

#15 May 26, 2013
Sorry for the Constableville school, know some nice people up there. Premo will never re-open that school...once they make a decision they never go back. It would take a disaster and a loss of a school before that building was reopened. Read it is for sale for $79,000. Nobody want these buildings...look at the old Lyons Falls school, nobody wants that after the Fitness Center left and in Rome they sold the Dewitt Clinton elementary school to some out of town buyer and it sits empty, getting worse looking every year, that's what happens.
Where are the numbers

New York, NY

#16 Jul 1, 2013
Not sure where everyone is getting their numbers from? But please do some research before shouting out numbers are declining! Maybe over the last 10-20 years they've been declining but I can tell you WL numbers are increasing. Get the facts please!
Less then average player

Forestport, NY

#17 Jul 2, 2013
The numbers are increasing? They were at 185 4 years ago now they are at 135.
Nina

Meadville, PA

#18 Sep 1, 2013
as a student that attended West Leyden in the 70's K-6 - I can tell you that its a long bus ride. We live nearly to the farthest part of the district in Point Rock and it was an hour to school every day. I never had any accidents - you just got used to spending 2 hrs a day on the bus 180 days a year. I always thought there should be a better way to do it - but I guess consolidation is the way of things now! Sigh!(and yes - I was there in the winter of 78 when they got us from Boonville to WL - but couldn't get us home - so we spent the night at WL)
Tax Payer

Lowville, NY

#19 Sep 2, 2013
This is West Leydens last year. Vote to take place January 14th. Save lots of wasted money. Vote YES to close.
Typical

Old Forge, NY

#20 Sep 2, 2013
Typical Boonville response. Forestport and West Leyden are always after thoughts in this district.

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