Does the Lord hear a sinner's prayer?
Eric Hickman

Peoria, IL

#755 Apr 21, 2010
sunshine wrote:
"Eric Hickman"- I have tried to explain to 1inchrist about altars...and he called me a hypocrite(ms)and said I was ignorant to!!! I go to the altar everytime I go to church,,doesnt mean I'm out drinkin on weekends or having an affair on my husband,,cuz I dnt do none of those things!! but I LOVE going to the altar and just talking to the lord,and cry out to him when my family,friends are lost,or whatever I wanna talk about! it makes me feel better after I'm at the altar,,but anyways some ppl dnt believe in the altar...I DO and I dnt care what ppl think about it,,thats my buisness if I wanna do that...The lord knows your heart and atleast he will know me,when I'm face to face with him one day!! and I know he's not gna tell me " Depart from me,i never knew you" I'm going home to be with Jesus and oh what a glourious day that will be!!!!!!!:)
There is not one thing wrong with going to the alter. It is good for you.
Very Happy

Peoria, IL

#756 Apr 21, 2010
From 1INCHRIST......One minute I'm boring, the next I'm funny. Make up your mind. I personally don't find anything funny about the truth of God's word.

No there isn't anything funny about God's word but your hullarious the way you present it. By the way, who told you that the way you are interpreting God's word is correct? Who told you that? Show me proof!!!
Very Happy

Peoria, IL

#757 Apr 21, 2010
1INCHRIST said: Of all the denominations and you link me to the nuttiest group.

You were speaking of pentecostals. I read somewhere that your grandparents were pentecostal. I'm sure they would appreciate that comment. But it doesn't surprise me that you cut down your own family!! LOL........Oh my

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#758 Apr 21, 2010
Eric Hickman wrote:
Wrong again 1inchrist.
Altars are mentioned in the New Testament. An Altar represents a place of prayer. Maybe you should start going to one. Its biblical!
Mt 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mt 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
Heb 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
Heb 13:10 We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.
Re 6:9 ¶ And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Re 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer [it] with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.{offer...: or, add it to the prayers}
You said,

"Altars are mentioned in the New Testament. An Altar represents a place of prayer."

Umm. Where in any of these passages is an altar said to be a "place of prayer"? Nowhere you just made that up. An altar is a place where sacrifices are offered (Matt.5:24). Are you implying we should take up sacrificing lambs and bullocks again? Jesus was speaking to Jews.

Then you quoted,

"Heb 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar."

This scripture is speaking to the fact that jesus wasn't a Levite. You are twisting it to mean that there is an altar somewhere which serves some purpose.

Then you quoted,

"Re 6:9 ¶ And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:"

This is something that was seen in Heaven, not on earth. Wow!! How strupid to try and infer this makes your altar at your church valid.

Then you quoted,

"Re 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer [it] with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne."

This altar is the one in Heaven also, which is in "the Temple". The earthly one was a shadow of it (Hebrews 8:5). Christ is the High preist there (Hebrews 5:5). You are really ignorant. You have no idea what you're talking about. There is no altar mentioned in the Bible which is for prayer. Here's the definition of an altar from Webster. I hope it helps clarify for you what an altar is and is for.

Main Entry: al·tar
Pronunciation:\ˈo ̇l-tər\
Function: noun
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English alter, from Old English altar, from Latin altare; probably akin to Latin adolēre to burn up
Date: before 12th century
1 : a usually raised structure or place on which sacrifices are offered or incense is burned in worship —often used figuratively to describe a thing given great or undue precedence or value especially at the cost of something else <sacrificed his family life on the altar of career advancement>
2 : a table on which the eucharistic elements are consecrated or which serves as a center of worship or ritual

The eucharist is a sacrifice also. The Catholics claim the bread and wine become the "literal" body of Christ and he is being sacrificed over and over again. It would do you well to study alot more.

“"Matt. 4:4"”

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#759 Apr 21, 2010
Eric Hickman wrote:
<quoted text>
oh, but 1inchrist again proves wrong. The word is "whosoever" will. That even includes you.
The word whosoever doesn't exist in the Greek. It is a bad translation in the English. You would know this had you studied the inspired word of God, which was written in Greek and Hebrew. Here it is in Greek.

uion
huion
G5207
n_ Acc Sg m
SON
autou
autou
G846
pp Gen Sg m
OF-Him
ton
ton
G3588
t_ Acc Sg m
THE
monogenh
monogenE
G3439
a_ Acc Sg m
ONLY-generated
only-begotten
edwken
edOken
G1325
vi Aor Act 3 Sg
He-GIVES
ina
hina
G2443
Conj
THAT
pas
pas
G3956
a_ Nom Sg m
EVERY
o
ho
G3588
t_ Nom Sg m
THE
pisteuwn
pisteuOn
G4100
vp Pres Act Nom Sg m
one-BELIEVING
one-believing
eis
eis
G1519
Prep
INTO
auton
auton
G846
pp Acc Sg m
Him
mh
mE
G3361
Part Neg
NO
apolhtai
apolEtai
G622
vs 2Aor Mid 3 Sg
SHOULD-BE-beING-destroyED
should-be-perishing
all
all
G235
Conj
but
ech
echE
G2192
vs Pres Act 3 Sg
MAY-BE-HAVING
zwhn
zOEn
G2222
n_ Acc Sg f
LIFE

It actually reads, "the one believing" not whosoever. The only ones believing are the ones whom Christ foreknew and predestined. Now go study. You know not what you speak of.

I am no Grek scholar, but I know what it says in Greek because I looked it up in Strong's Dictionary.

“"Matt. 4:4"”

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#760 Apr 21, 2010
Very Happy wrote:
From 1INCHRIST......One minute I'm boring, the next I'm funny. Make up your mind. I personally don't find anything funny about the truth of God's word.
No there isn't anything funny about God's word but your hullarious the way you present it. By the way, who told you that the way you are interpreting God's word is correct? Who told you that? Show me proof!!!
If you're not God's elect ther is no proving you anything. Have a nice day. I noticed you can't even keep the same username. What's the matter, you hiding something?

Joshua Kelley

“"Matt. 4:4"”

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#761 Apr 21, 2010
Very Happy wrote:
1INCHRIST said: Of all the denominations and you link me to the nuttiest group.
You were speaking of pentecostals. I read somewhere that your grandparents were pentecostal. I'm sure they would appreciate that comment. But it doesn't surprise me that you cut down your own family!! LOL........Oh my
My families beliefs mean nothing to me. I won't stand before them on judgement day and neither did I "cut them down". They are very confused people just as you are. Now instead of changing your username every other post why not tell us who you are. I won't hold my breath. Now go away like they always do.

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#762 Apr 21, 2010
1INCHRIST wrote:
<quoted text>
You said,
"Faith is not the gift,Salvation is."
In that case I am sorry to have to tell you that you are illiterate when it comes to comprehension and the rules of reading. The Bible says,
Ephesians 2:8
"For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;"
How many nouns are there in this passage? Which one is the last mentioned which you would refer back to concerning the gift? Now I am by no means any scholar of even the simplest language, but I do know the gift is faith. That is according to the rules of the English language. You twist the rules of the most elementary teaching of reading and God's word at the same time. Many articles have been written concerning this very matter. That is absolutely rediculous.
The grace of God is the undeserved gift of faith. That is the definition of the word grace, an undeserved gift.
Main Entry: 1grace
Pronunciation:\&#712;gr &#257;s\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin gratia favor, charm, thanks, from gratus pleasing, grateful; akin to Sanskrit gr&#803;n&#803;&#2 57;ti he praises
Date: 12th century
1 a : unmerited divine assistance given humans for their regeneration or sanctification b : a virtue coming from God c : a state of sanctification enjoyed through divine grace
2 a : approval, favor <stayed in his good graces> b archaic : mercy, pardon c : a special favor : privilege <each in his place, by right, not grace, shall rule his heritage — Rudyard Kipling> d : disposition to or an act or instance of kindness, courtesy, or clemency e : a temporary exemption : reprieve
3 a : a charming or attractive trait or characteristic b : a pleasing appearance or effect : charm <all the grace of youth — John Buchan> c : ease and suppleness of movement or bearing
4 —used as a title of address or reference for a duke, a duchess, or an archbishop
5 : a short prayer at a meal asking a blessing or giving thanks
6 plural capitalized : three sister goddesses in Greek mythology who are the givers of charm and beauty
7 : a musical trill, turn, or appoggiatura
8 a : sense of propriety or right <had the grace not to run for elective office — Calvin Trillin> b : the quality or state of being considerate or thoughtful
synonyms see mercy
Thw word grace in question is in fact a noun. The above definition is in fact the definition of the word grace in English.
I won't bother to correct anymore of your folly. You can't even properly read English. In fact you twisted it horribly to make it mean what you wanted.
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God

1 Timothy 2:4
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge;

(((and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains,

->>>>and have not charity,->>>>I am nothing.

Titus 2:11-12
11 For the (((grace of God))))->>> that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,

12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

John 6:29

Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent."
lil fire cracker

Aston, PA

#763 Apr 21, 2010
the only reason why 1inchrist is actiong like a know it all is because he is self sintered and he thinks he is perfiect but the perfiect on has already died and arose agin and is comming back to take way his bride... and as far ast the alter thing i think he needs on but is not sure how to use it or to do when he aproches it.... as for Eric and Sunshine i agree with the both of u 100%

“"Matt. 4:4"”

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#764 Apr 21, 2010
Full of Love wrote:
<quoted text>
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
1 Timothy 2:4
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge;
(((and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains,
->>>>and have not charity,->>>>I am nothing.
Titus 2:11-12
11 For the (((grace of God))))->>> that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
John 6:29
Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent."
If you have a point to make then please say it already. I understand these scriptures very well. What are you attempting to say. If you reply to me one more time in this manner I will not answer. Please explain yourself or keep quiet. You are doing nothing, but causing confusion. Most of the people on here wouldn't agree about many things concerning the scriptures. You posting scriptures means nothing when you don't explain your understanding. Why do you think the Pharisees asked Jesus,

Matthew 22:35-36

"One of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him,"

"Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?"

He answered correctly.

Matthew 22:37

"And He said to him, "'YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND."

You refuse to explain your doctrine or thinking, while Christ did it freely. Christ didn't say,

"The scriptures are self explanatory". That is what Eric said. The word says,

1Peter 3:15

"but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence;"

You, as well as Eric, refuse to do so. That is in direct disobedience to the scriptures. As for love, you don't even know what it is. I am loving you right now. You won't receive it.

“"Matt. 4:4"”

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#765 Apr 21, 2010
lil fire cracker wrote:
the only reason why 1inchrist is actiong like a know it all is because he is self sintered and he thinks he is perfiect but the perfiect on has already died and arose agin and is comming back to take way his bride... and as far ast the alter thing i think he needs on but is not sure how to use it or to do when he aproches it.... as for Eric and Sunshine i agree with the both of u 100%
Sunshine is Pentecostal and unless Eric is as well, I am sure they would agree on very little.

“"Matt. 4:4"”

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#766 Apr 21, 2010
Eric Hickman wrote:
<quoted text>
oh, but 1inchrist again proves wrong. The word is "whosoever" will. That even includes you.
Didn't you tell Bob/very happy,

"Hey Bob don't get caught in this guys deceitful trap. He defliberately tries to pull people into arguing with him"

What are you still doing here then. If you are accusing me of being argumentative, and you are, and you stick around to argue, aren't you just as guilty? I will remind you of this one thing Christ said,

Matthew 7:1-2

"Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2“For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you"

Practice what you preach If you want to be taken seriously.
Eric Hickman

Peoria, IL

#767 Apr 21, 2010
1INCHRIST wrote:
<quoted text>Didn't you tell Bob/very happy,
"Hey Bob don't get caught in this guys deceitful trap. He defliberately tries to pull people into arguing with him"
What are you still doing here then. If you are accusing me of being argumentative, and you are, and you stick around to argue, aren't you just as guilty? I will remind you of this one thing Christ said,
Matthew 7:1-2
"Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2“For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you"
Practice what you preach If you want to be taken seriously.
I am not arguing! I am just trying to help people see the truth! Just becuase I disagree with you does not mean that I am arguing. Most peole on here do take me seriously so that isn't a concern either. There are some people on here that I agree whole heartdly with. I will continue to post to this site. That doesn't mean I am arguing. I am sure my post will not agree with yours for the most part, but I feel a responisbility to help people see the truth in God's Word. Have a nice night..

Since: Oct 08

Danville, VA

#768 Apr 21, 2010
1INCHRIST wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, and it is.
Unfortunately the greek bible I go to has the commas in it LOL! Imagine that!

So for the record if I have something wrong I don't believe I was lied to, people make mistakes, it's why we needed Jesus to come in the flesh and die for us!

Since: Oct 08

Danville, VA

#769 Apr 21, 2010
1INCHRIST wrote:
<quoted text>Didn't you tell Bob/very happy,
"Hey Bob don't get caught in this guys deceitful trap. He defliberately tries to pull people into arguing with him"
What are you still doing here then. If you are accusing me of being argumentative, and you are, and you stick around to argue, aren't you just as guilty? I will remind you of this one thing Christ said,
Matthew 7:1-2
"Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2“For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you"
Practice what you preach If you want to be taken seriously.
Oh don't forget that Jesus statement about righteous Judgment does not obsolve any of us from being judged at the same level we are judging.

Judge someone to be unsaved and going to hell because you did not hold to the pattern, if you are wrong in even the slightest in holding that pattern, your fate will be the same.

This applies to all of us, even those who think they are walking in perfect obedience like the publican did when he was praying!
Eric Hickman

Peoria, IL

#770 Apr 21, 2010
walkinginlove wrote:
<quoted text>
Unfortunately the greek bible I go to has the commas in it LOL! Imagine that!
So for the record if I have something wrong I don't believe I was lied to, people make mistakes, it's why we needed Jesus to come in the flesh and die for us!
I just checked my greek bible. It too has commas in it!

“"Matt. 4:4"”

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#771 Apr 21, 2010
Eric Hickman wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not arguing! I am just trying to help people see the truth! Just becuase I disagree with you does not mean that I am arguing. Most peole on here do take me seriously so that isn't a concern either. There are some people on here that I agree whole heartdly with. I will continue to post to this site. That doesn't mean I am arguing. I am sure my post will not agree with yours for the most part, but I feel a responisbility to help people see the truth in God's Word. Have a nice night..
You said,

"I am not arguing! I am just trying to help people see the truth! Just becuase I disagree with you does not mean that I am arguing."

Then why would you accuse me of being argumentative? That works two ways don't it? Or do you have one standard for yourself and another for others? You said in another post on this very thread, the last page to be exact,

"Hey Bob don't get caught in this guys deceitful trap. He defliberately tries to pull people into arguing with him."

Now you claim that a disagreenment isn't arguing. Isn't that what we have done, disagreed? Why the double standard?

Then you said,

"Most peole on here do take me seriously so that isn't a concern either."

Yes, you have deceived most on here, if not all, and you openly admit that your behaviour doesn't matter, because they take you seriously. That's a crying shame. it's unbelievable the days we live in. people can't even see through a mans behaviour that he isn't sincere.

Then you said,

"There are some people on here that I agree whole heartdly with. I will continue to post to this site."

Yes, most of them will agree with you. After all, your beliefs are the popular ones, however wrong.

Then you said,

"That doesn't mean I am arguing."

Yes, I know, that only applies to me in this case according to you.

Then you said,

"I am sure my post will not agree with yours for the most part, but I feel a responisbility to help people see the truth in God's Word."

Yes, You have been appointed to deceive others. I agree.

Then you said,

"Have a nice night."

We both know you don't mean that.

“"Matt. 4:4"”

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#772 Apr 21, 2010
walkinginlove wrote:
<quoted text>
Unfortunately the greek bible I go to has the commas in it LOL! Imagine that!
So for the record if I have something wrong I don't believe I was lied to, people make mistakes, it's why we needed Jesus to come in the flesh and die for us!
Thyen you are nopt going to the original text. Just Google it and you will see that there was and is no punctuation in the original text. The Greeks didn't use it, neither did the Hebrews. Believe as you wish.

“"Matt. 4:4"”

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#773 Apr 21, 2010
walkinginlove wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh don't forget that Jesus statement about righteous Judgment does not obsolve any of us from being judged at the same level we are judging.
Judge someone to be unsaved and going to hell because you did not hold to the pattern, if you are wrong in even the slightest in holding that pattern, your fate will be the same.
This applies to all of us, even those who think they are walking in perfect obedience like the publican did when he was praying!
Once again you prove your ignorance. Have a wonderful life. Your opinions mean nothing to me.

“"Matt. 4:4"”

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#774 Apr 21, 2010
Eric Hickman wrote:
<quoted text>
I just checked my greek bible. It too has commas in it!
Like I told Walkinginlove, you're not looking at the original text in that case. You should know this being a trained pastor. What a shame.

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