Man Indicted on Federal Hate Crime Ch...

Man Indicted on Federal Hate Crime Charges for Church Arson

There are 31 comments on the WJW Fox 8 Cleveland story from Sep 17, 2010, titled Man Indicted on Federal Hate Crime Charges for Church Arson. In it, WJW Fox 8 Cleveland reports that:

Ronald Pudder, 23, has been indicted on a federal hate crimes charge in what authorities say was a racially motivated arson at a church with a mostly black congregation.

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buckeyeinbuffalo

Buffalo, NY

#21 Sep 18, 2010
NOI wrote:
I don't use 'colored people', but the NAACP does.
I use 'darkie'. Fits better.
It has been said that it's better to remain silent and be thought of as a fool, rather than to speak and remove all doubt! You, my fellow human being ( and I use that term lightly in referring to you) are a complete fool. Your idiodicy makes me laugh. I trust that you embarass good white folks.
Hates Ignorance

Butler, PA

#22 Sep 18, 2010
". There are many good coloreds around, and a lot of them are Christians; brothers and sisters in the Lord."

Statements like this imply that AA's are inherently NOT good. But there are SOME that are. A very sad way of thinking.

Like saying thete are alot of "good" Italians, Irishmen, or Christians.
Surprising

Bedford, OH

#23 Sep 18, 2010
What are you talking about? There are a few good Italians in Cleveland... Even a few of the good ones live over in the Murray Hill area.
Hates Ignorance wrote:
". There are many good coloreds around, and a lot of them are Christians; brothers and sisters in the Lord."
Statements like this imply that AA's are inherently NOT good. But there are SOME that are. A very sad way of thinking.
Like saying thete are alot of "good" Italians, Irishmen, or Christians.
Michelle

Houston, TX

#24 Sep 18, 2010
FYI-I'm not a religious person. However, just because I'm not into religion doesn't give me the right to force my views upon people who do. You get a clue.. you don't target and set fire to anyone's private property whether be a church, home, office etc. because you don't agree with their beliefs. That's what constitutes "hate". You for president? Me thinks not. You would know that the constitution allows for freedom of religion and their meeting places. Of course we realize that you're just trolling so really your opinion means nada.
Cleveland-West_Side wrote:
I hate churches too, if I was president I would have not only all churches but synagogues, temples, mosques, cathedrals, chapels, mandirs, pathis, derasars, jingas, gurdwaras, daoguans and all religious meeting places burnt to the ground!
I wouldn't ban religion, just treat it like we treat sex, keep it legal but out of view from children.
this1dude

Akron, OH

#25 Sep 18, 2010
i love how because it was a black church everyone assumes it was a hate crime. has anyone even taken into consideration that the building hasn't been used in almost 4 years? or the fact that all he did was char the steel doors. not the the thing burnt to the ground. i can of paint at ace hardware can fix it in ten minutes. all this whole thing is is a way for the federal government and the state of ohio to make themselves look like they are trying to make this place a better place to live. how are they doing that by pushing false charges on people? all they are doing is proving even more how screwed up our government is. not saying what he did wasn't dumb but it wasnt a hate crime.
TRUE MINORITY

Mentor, OH

#26 Sep 19, 2010
Do what now wrote:
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Cite that please.
Don't need to cite a case, all you have to do is turn on the news, open a newspaper, or go on a local website, like this one & you WILL see these crimes you F**KING IDIOT!!!
Let me guess you are either black, or a liberal who has never personaly been affected by this BLACK PLAGUE, or lived close enough to them to see thier TRUE RACISM towards whites.
You MIGHT get along with 'em at work, but go to 119th & Kinsman, or Morris Black Projects tonight & see how much they embrace you & your white-ass then!!!
ONLY WHITE PEOPLE CAN COMMIT HATE CRIMES!!! WTF!!!
***Enjoy this race card bullsh*t now, folks!!! The black race has pretty much used up all of the race cards & EVEN the liberals are getting tired of carrying you people & making excuses for your uncontrollable violence & hate towards yourselves & others!!!
If this was a white church & the thug was black, it would've only been called vandalism!!! WAKE-UP WHITE AMERICA!
lynn

Atwater, OH

#27 Sep 19, 2010
Cleveland-West_Side wrote:
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lol
90% of white America has never interacted with a black person outside a business transaction.
Don't know about that. Sure are alot of mixed babies out there, someones interacting.
Do what now

Medina, OH

#28 Sep 19, 2010
Haha, wow, what an internet tough guy! That really hurt my feelings! lol

I meant a cite a study(not a single case, Grand Wizard or whatever) that proves most violent crimes done to whites are done by blacks. I could believe a 90% number if it were black-on-black crime... but with white flight and all that it's just not sounding right. The crime ridden big cities like Detroit or Cleveland have shrinking populations and the first to leave were whites.

You should be hating ghetto culture, not blacks as a whole. Almost every race has issues with ghetto culture. A black person outside of that culture with college degrees and a well paying job should not have to be lumped in with trash just because they share a skin color. I'm white and it would piss me off if I was lumped in with meth heads making that shit around their kids. We don't have to deal with that normally as whites, thankfuly.
My View

Cleveland, OH

#29 Sep 19, 2010
A hate crime, also known as a bias crime, is a criminal offense committed against a person, property, or society that is motivated, in whole or in part, by the offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity/national origin.
R E P

Crowley, TX

#30 Sep 19, 2010
sure tracy .. i mean has that been done already or not ? huuummmm perhaps you are just talking to hear yourself fartting off at the mouth.... i dont condone such behavior in any form shape or fashion of any kind..... i embark upon you to put yourself in others shoes .... you dont have to actually place your self in the shoes perhaps just think of yourself on another planet where u and ur kind are subjugated, thinnk of your being subjugated to the point you are treated like animal and you.. ur made to breed with some one u do not know and then to ad to insult the baby is taken from you , and sold like dog in auction, better yet you are placed into areana and made to fight like dog to amuse your so called master ... or you are fored to make love to master while ur husband is forced out to work , for him without pay , no hopes of life enbetterment for self nor family. to be ostersized due to color of ones skins.. not able to learn, or being killed if you know how to read and write ... all i have to say is thank God that this is now a different day in time and thanks to such people as the democrats, and those who have passively fought for fredom for all .....if you earnestly do this i am sure you will be abel to at least empathize with such reactions as to one burning down what you consider your place of worrship ....
R E P

Crowley, TX

#31 Sep 19, 2010
Tracie Getchell wrote:
I think that they are going way overboard on his punishment!! Come on, people can take a weapon and shoot or kill someone by vehicle, and they only get a maximum of 4 yrs. in prision, and community service??? The guy just burnt the door of the church...give him community service for the church, give him fines..
People can commit a much more higher crime and serve less time, if any time at all!!! I'm not saying it was right for what he did...If it was a church with mostly white people, would he be facing the same amount of time???
sure tracy .. i mean has that been done already or not ? huuummmm perhaps you are just talking to hear yourself fartting off at the mouth.... i dont condone such behavior in any form shape or fashion of any kind..... i embark upon you to put yourself in others shoes .... you dont have to actually place your self in the shoes perhaps just think of yourself on another planet where u and ur kind are subjugated, thinnk of your being subjugated to the point you are treated like animal and you.. ur made to breed with some one u do not know and then to ad to insult the baby is taken from you , and sold like dog in auction, better yet you are placed into areana and made to fight like dog to amuse your so called master ... or you are fored to make love to master while ur husband is forced out to work , for him without pay , no hopes of life enbetterment for self nor family. to be ostersized due to color of ones skins.. not able to learn, or being killed if you know how to read and write ... all i have to say is thank God that this is now a different day in time and thanks to such people as the democrats, and those who have passively fought for fredom for all .....if you earnestly do this i am sure you will be abel to at least empathize with such reactions as to one burning down what you consider your place of worrship ....

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