Man Indicted on Federal Hate Crime Ch...

Man Indicted on Federal Hate Crime Charges for Church Arson

There are 31 comments on the WJW Fox 8 Cleveland story from Sep 17, 2010, titled Man Indicted on Federal Hate Crime Charges for Church Arson. In it, WJW Fox 8 Cleveland reports that:

Ronald Pudder, 23, has been indicted on a federal hate crimes charge in what authorities say was a racially motivated arson at a church with a mostly black congregation.

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Tracie Getchell

Meadville, PA

#1 Sep 17, 2010
I think that they are going way overboard on his punishment!! Come on, people can take a weapon and shoot or kill someone by vehicle, and they only get a maximum of 4 yrs. in prision, and community service??? The guy just burnt the door of the church...give him community service for the church, give him fines..

People can commit a much more higher crime and serve less time, if any time at all!!! I'm not saying it was right for what he did...If it was a church with mostly white people, would he be facing the same amount of time???
Michelle

Houston, TX

#2 Sep 17, 2010
I agree with Mr. Perez when he said, "Hate crimes reflect a cancer of the soul." People like Pudder have the same mentality as stalkers and serial killers. They're sociopathic, have very aggressive anger/hate towards their intended victim(s) for illogical reasons that's usually imagined, attack their victim(s) with a false sense of entitlement, while thoroughly enjoying sending out a message of fear to rest of the community. It's saying, "do as I tell you to do, or what was done here will be done to you." People like this do not belong in society.
Get Over It

Painesville, OH

#3 Sep 17, 2010
why is this a hate crime???? because he hates churchs??????????did he say he started the fire because of the colored people that go to it???and bty he did not burn it down
Cleveland-West_S ide

Mansfield, OH

#4 Sep 18, 2010
I hate churches too, if I was president I would have not only all churches but synagogues, temples, mosques, cathedrals, chapels, mandirs, pathis, derasars, jingas, gurdwaras, daoguans and all religious meeting places burnt to the ground!

I wouldn't ban religion, just treat it like we treat sex, keep it legal but out of view from children.
Bill

Mentor, OH

#5 Sep 18, 2010
The African Americans are our brothers and sisters. I am a Christian, and they are no different than we are. There are many good coloreds around, and a lot of them are Christians; brothers and sisters in the Lord. I'm willing to forgive, but I believe justice has to be done to stop these hate crimes. I don't understand why anyone would want to destroy a church.
KurtC

United States

#6 Sep 18, 2010
This man is a hero. Set him free.
Cleveland-West_S ide

Mansfield, OH

#7 Sep 18, 2010
lol at everyone using the term "colored people", what year is this 1960?
SMJ10

Mansfield, OH

#8 Sep 18, 2010
I think he does need to go to jail for a very long time. People need to see what happens to others when you do something so hateful and I am sure his goal was to burn the whole thing down!!!
As far as other crimes go.. NONE of us hae control in that but at least something could be done about this one.
Luckymom1989

Strongsville, OH

#9 Sep 18, 2010
Racist, uneducated idiots. You have to have someone to hate because your lives are so miserable.
Do what now

Medina, OH

#10 Sep 18, 2010
Cleveland-West_Side wrote:
lol at everyone using the term "colored people", what year is this 1960?
Stuck in the 50s perhaps? lol. All I know is I never heard the term used until I moved to Ohio (I'm from out west)

Anyway, did you see his mugshot? Charles Manson wannabe.
buckeyeinbuffalo

Buffalo, NY

#11 Sep 18, 2010
Some of the early comments are pretty troubling. Conneault sounds like a town I could drive through and see nooses hanging from trees and smoldering crosses that were burnt the night before. I sure hope most of it's citizens don't share the same mindset as the pure, U.S. Prime crap I've read from some of these idiots. And, by the way, if they're "colored", exactly what color are they? OMG! How out-of-touch and archaic can you be?
Tom

Cleveland, OH

#12 Sep 18, 2010
Maybe the guy has some sort of reason to hate? I personally don't care one bit about any bodies church. Some of you religious folks think the bigger the church the more your god is in it. Up to life! Thats ignorant time. He didn't kill anyone. Oh well! More liberal arse kissers. Have they passed a law that says we can not dislike a group of whatever we don't like. I think not! I personally live in a white suburb and I want it to stay that way. Look at folks who live around black folks. You have to lock everything up. It's just a known fact. No getting around that. cleveland is a perfect example, of bars on your windows and doors.
buckeyeinbuffalo

Buffalo, NY

#13 Sep 18, 2010
Tom, you're just another mediocre racist like most. You talk a good game but, you don't have the intelligence to see that, not only are you wrong, but, you present an argument that would make you, yourself a terrorist. Don't like churches? Burn 'em! Don't like somebody? Shoot 'em! Don't agree with a politician? Blow up his office! And, OMG! I didn't know white people don't commit crime? Hmmm? I bet you wanna live next to Charles Manson, don't you? Timothy McVey, Ted Kazynski, Ted Bundy, and around 40 to 50 percent of prison population. You can't be stupid enough to believe that the lily white utopia you believe exists in you mind actually exists? Or, are you just one of those people who wants to APPEAR that you have balls? You talk tough....behind an anonymous comment. But, in actuality, you're a coward with utterly warpped thinking.
NOI

United States

#14 Sep 18, 2010
I don't use 'colored people', but the NAACP does.

I use 'darkie'. Fits better.
chuckie

Sterling Heights, MI

#15 Sep 18, 2010
That 'hate crime' designation is a crock. A group of blacks can beat a white man to death and it's just an assault, but let a white man spit on a black mans sidewalk and it becomes a hate crime.
mapleman

Northfield, OH

#16 Sep 18, 2010
Tom wrote:
Maybe the guy has some sort of reason to hate? I personally don't care one bit about any bodies church. Some of you religious folks think the bigger the church the more your god is in it. Up to life! Thats ignorant time. He didn't kill anyone. Oh well! More liberal arse kissers. Have they passed a law that says we can not dislike a group of whatever we don't like. I think not! I personally live in a white suburb and I want it to stay that way. Look at folks who live around black folks. You have to lock everything up. It's just a known fact. No getting around that. cleveland is a perfect example, of bars on your windows and doors.
How the heck are you typing this nonsense from America? You're white. You are from an all white land called EUROPE. Why the heck did your ancestors leave an all white land to come to America? Europe was an all white utopia, nothing but white people, how could there ever have been problems, wars or crime? LOL
Rob

United States

#17 Sep 18, 2010
NOI wrote:
I don't use 'colored people', but the NAACP does.
I use 'darkie'. Fits better.
West Side doesn't understand "double standard" yet.
Injustice

Middlefield, OH

#18 Sep 18, 2010
And yet 90% of all violent and petty crimes perpetrated against white people, are committed by blacks. Where is our federal hate crime protection?
Do what now

Medina, OH

#19 Sep 18, 2010
Injustice wrote:
And yet 90% of all violent and petty crimes perpetrated against white people, are committed by blacks. Where is our federal hate crime protection?
Cite that please.
Cleveland-West_S ide

Mansfield, OH

#20 Sep 18, 2010
Injustice wrote:
And yet 90% of all violent and petty crimes perpetrated against white people, are committed by blacks. Where is our federal hate crime protection?
lol
90% of white America has never interacted with a black person outside a business transaction.

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