South Carolina Sen. Proposes Sin Tax on Magazines

Apr 1, 2008 Full story: www.ksdk.com 859

It could cost more to see naked babes in South Carolina. At least that's what one state senator wants in the Palmetto State.

Greenville Republican Mike Fair wants to impose a 20 percent sin tax on magazines like Playboy and Hustler.

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Margie

Baltimore, MD

#888 Apr 16, 2008
allie topeka wrote:
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i'm sure a great many single people felt the same way when you were crotch-fruit.
And good for them. My mother raised me herself, without money from my father and without sucking at the public tit. It was and is still called "being responsible for yourself."
Margie

Baltimore, MD

#889 Apr 16, 2008
Lisa wrote:
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You are welcome I thought that would get a rise out of you. I thought I had told you before I was raised by my father. Mother left at 5. I was a total tomboy athlete. I am sorry if you are offended I did think it was funny. And it is true that I have never met a woman so againest womens rights, rights it took years to acquire.
Sweetie, that's because I don't believe what you are talking about has to do with women's rights. I don't think women deserve any special rights that men don't have. So... if the baby is choice before it pops out of your vagina, it's your choice and responsibility after it pops out. That's all I'm saying. How is that against women's rights? You aren't being forced to be anyone's incubator, nor are you being forced to have sex in the first place. We women know how hard it is sometimes to get men to step up to the plate, so we should be damn sure we can take care of ourselves and our children without one and without demanding assistance from tax payers that are being forced to pay for people's mistakes.

If the father of the baby doesn't have any rights, then he shouldn't have any responsibility. Those two things GO TOGETHER.

So sorry that I don't toe the "academic" feminist, far left party line, but that hardly makes me anti-woman or against women's rights.
Lisa

O Fallon, MO

#890 Apr 16, 2008
Margie wrote:
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Sweetie, that's because I don't believe what you are talking about has to do with women's rights. I don't think women deserve any special rights that men don't have. So... if the baby is choice before it pops out of your vagina, it's your choice and responsibility after it pops out. That's all I'm saying. How is that against women's rights? You aren't being forced to be anyone's incubator, nor are you being forced to have sex in the first place. We women know how hard it is sometimes to get men to step up to the plate, so we should be damn sure we can take care of ourselves and our children without one and without demanding assistance from tax payers that are being forced to pay for people's mistakes.
If the father of the baby doesn't have any rights, then he shouldn't have any responsibility. Those two things GO TOGETHER.
So sorry that I don't toe the "academic" feminist, far left party line, but that hardly makes me anti-woman or against women's rights.
All I can say is we must agree that we disagree because I am tired of beating a dead horse. But just as a last point, men do have the same rights although it is rare that a woman (like my mom) leaves the family but if they do they are required to pay child support.

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#891 Apr 16, 2008
You are confusing two different processes.

1) Pregnancy. Pregnancy is a medical condition that only affects the woman; the man has no rights or responsibilities in the pregnancy because he undergoes none of the risks.
2) Born children. Once a child is born, it must be supported and cared for. The obvious sources of this support are the two people who created it (unless an anonymous sperm donor was used.) Regardless of the objections to the pregnancy, that child exists and half its DNA is the father's. The real question is, why should anyone else have to support it? BOTH progenitors are equally required to support the child.
Margie wrote:
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Sweetie, that's because I don't believe what you are talking about has to do with women's rights. I don't think women deserve any special rights that men don't have. So... if the baby is choice before it pops out of your vagina, it's your choice and responsibility after it pops out. That's all I'm saying. How is that against women's rights? You aren't being forced to be anyone's incubator, nor are you being forced to have sex in the first place. We women know how hard it is sometimes to get men to step up to the plate, so we should be damn sure we can take care of ourselves and our children without one and without demanding assistance from tax payers that are being forced to pay for people's mistakes.
If the father of the baby doesn't have any rights, then he shouldn't have any responsibility. Those two things GO TOGETHER.
So sorry that I don't toe the "academic" feminist, far left party line, but that hardly makes me anti-woman or against women's rights.
Margie

Baltimore, MD

#892 Apr 16, 2008
Cpetr13 wrote:
You are confusing two different processes.
1) Pregnancy. Pregnancy is a medical condition that only affects the woman; the man has no rights or responsibilities in the pregnancy because he undergoes none of the risks.
2) Born children. Once a child is born, it must be supported and cared for. The obvious sources of this support are the two people who created it (unless an anonymous sperm donor was used.) Regardless of the objections to the pregnancy, that child exists and half its DNA is the father's. The real question is, why should anyone else have to support it? BOTH progenitors are equally required to support the child.
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That you think being pregnant is a "medical condition" speaks volumes. If only your mother had been cured of her medical condition before you "became" a child.

No-choice for the father before than the child is born, then the woman doesn't need his money afterwards.

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#893 Apr 16, 2008
He's not supporting the woman--he's defraying the cost of raising his child.

Every doctor i the free world would refer to pregnancy as a medical condition. What do YOU call it? A hobby?
Margie wrote:
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That you think being pregnant is a "medical condition" speaks volumes. If only your mother had been cured of her medical condition before you "became" a child.
No-choice for the father before than the child is born, then the woman doesn't need his money afterwards.
Lisa

O Fallon, MO

#894 Apr 17, 2008
Cpetr13 wrote:
He's not supporting the woman--he's defraying the cost of raising his child.
Every doctor i the free world would refer to pregnancy as a medical condition. What do YOU call it? A hobby?
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lol thank you
Margie

Baltimore, MD

#895 Apr 17, 2008
Cpetr13 wrote:
He's not supporting the woman--he's defraying the cost of raising his child.
Every doctor i the free world would refer to pregnancy as a medical condition. What do YOU call it? A hobby?
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I call it pregnant with a child.

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#896 Apr 17, 2008
Which is a medical condition--a physical change or status of the body that affects health or fitness.
Margie wrote:
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I call it pregnant with a child.
Margie

Baltimore, MD

#897 Apr 17, 2008
Cpetr13 wrote:
Which is a medical condition--a physical change or status of the body that affects health or fitness.
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Hey, if you want or need to use language in order to put distance between yourself and the reality that having an abortion is the puree-ing of a child be my guest. I know it must help and if I were to decide to have an abortion, I'd probably need to do the same. But it doesn't change the facts does it. I'm pro-choice, but it doesn't mean I don't realize what an unborn child is.

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#898 Apr 17, 2008
You don't puree anything during an abortion. And I don't have to distance myself at all. An abortion is a medical procedure that terminates a pregnancy. The fetus is secondary to the process.
Margie wrote:
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Hey, if you want or need to use language in order to put distance between yourself and the reality that having an abortion is the puree-ing of a child be my guest. I know it must help and if I were to decide to have an abortion, I'd probably need to do the same. But it doesn't change the facts does it. I'm pro-choice, but it doesn't mean I don't realize what an unborn child is.
Margie

Baltimore, MD

#899 Apr 17, 2008
Cpetr13 wrote:
You don't puree anything during an abortion. And I don't have to distance myself at all. An abortion is a medical procedure that terminates a pregnancy. The fetus is secondary to the process.
<quoted text>
Riiiiiight. Wow. Keep telling yourself that.
Lisa

O Fallon, MO

#900 Apr 17, 2008
Cpetr13 wrote:
You don't puree anything during an abortion. And I don't have to distance myself at all. An abortion is a medical procedure that terminates a pregnancy. The fetus is secondary to the process.
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Don't you feel like you are wasting your time with Margie? It does not matter how much sence you make she will not see it your way. It is her way only. I agree with everything you said to her.
Margie

Baltimore, MD

#901 Apr 17, 2008
Lisa wrote:
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Don't you feel like you are wasting your time with Margie? It does not matter how much sence you make she will not see it your way. It is her way only. I agree with everything you said to her.
And if you two create an echo chamber of nonsense, that makes it true? Hmmmmm... nope.

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#902 Apr 17, 2008
I don't have to "tell myself" anything. I've done the research and seen the actual tapes of abortions. I know what is involved and I understand the development of the fetus. I have no problem with any of it because ultimately the case comes down to whether or not we have a constitutional right to force a woman to maintain a pregnancy she doesn't wish to have.

Born people do not have the right to force another to use their bodies to sustain their lives; why do you think i would agree to having feti having special rights?
Margie wrote:
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Riiiiiight. Wow. Keep telling yourself that.

“Reality is better than truth”

Since: Jun 07

Indianapolis

#903 Apr 17, 2008
Nonsense? What have I posted that is not factually accurate?
Margie wrote:
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And if you two create an echo chamber of nonsense, that makes it true? Hmmmmm... nope.

“EQUAL RIGHTS”

Since: Feb 08

NO MORE-NO LESS

#904 Apr 17, 2008
Margie wrote:
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Hey, if you want or need to use language in order to put distance between yourself and the reality that having an abortion is the puree-ing of a child be my guest. I know it must help and if I were to decide to have an abortion, I'd probably need to do the same. But it doesn't change the facts does it. I'm pro-choice, but it doesn't mean I don't realize what an unborn child is.
why would you need to distance yourself from "puree-ing" crotch-fruit?
Lisa

Edmonton, Canada

#905 May 1, 2008
TOM -US ARMY wrote:
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Which one did you pose for?
Guess!!!
Margie

Baltimore, MD

#906 May 2, 2008
allie topeka wrote:
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why would you need to distance yourself from "puree-ing" crotch-fruit?
So I don't think about where the yummy tasting goodness is coming from when I add it to my fruit smoothie... coont
*rolls eyes*

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