Islamic prayers in Marshall Park draw critics

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Ibrahim Jaaber, showing his patriotism with his head wrap, videotapes the gathering of about 300 on Friday, Aug.

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#21 Sep 2, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Who indeed, according to Marco the so-called Atheist, who has repeatedly taken the side of islam whenever it is in contradiction to Christianity?
An atheist is someone who denies the existence of God, not someone who sides with one god over another when he supposedly doesn't believe in either diety.
It really hurts if someone points out that beam in your eye, huh!

Do I take the side of islam on this thread? You would only think so if you are a complete idjiot and consider any and all criticism of a group of christians (and in response to someone complaining about some atheist billboards) as taking the side of islam. But I should remember I am discussing with Joe DeCaro here, so there's no surprise to see such warped logic!

P.S., another few quotes for you to search and determine the author:
"History and facts show that the conflict in and around Israel is dwarfed by the conflict in Sudan, where your fellow sunnis are killing fellow sunnis, and have previously mass murdered animists and christians."

"When will muslims apologise for STARTING the whole process leading to the crusades? When will they apologise for invading the Maghreb? When will they apologise for invading Persia? When will they apologise for mass murdering the people of Constantinopel? When will they apologise for invading India, killing many, many millions of hindus and buddhists?
People in glass houses..."
(that's another two other religions you can accuse me of "taken the side of")

"Israeli racism is brought up, but similar racism in muslim countries dismissed (try to take your bible to Saudi Arabia, you will not get it in)."
(but, but, but, but, Marco, you take the side of islam whenever it is in contradiction with christianity! How can you refer to that Saudi racism against christians?!)

"When will muslims apologise for STARTING the whole process leading to the crusades?"
Social security is a lie

Jakarta, Indonesia

#22 Sep 2, 2012
OLD LADY wrote:
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How many social conservatives are in Indonesia,are there many? The show-biz thing was just me being sarcastic . Have a nice weekend.
Well... the number of social conservatives is reduce. I think in 2030, Infidel will become majority. Muslim fundie is not appeal to the market. Nice weekend too.

I think American and Europe Muslim are more social conservative than majority of Indonesian Muslim. But in my opinion American and Europe Muslim will follow the path of Indonesian Muslim. Because Islam tradition is boring.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#23 Sep 2, 2012
Marco the atheist wrote:
Do I take the side of islam on this thread?...
Yes you did (see posts #5,7) and you have employed similar mental gymnastics to justify your anti-Christian/pro-islamic positions on other threads.

For example, it was only recently you posted that the SPLC was justified to list Conservative Christian NGOs as "hate groups" while omiting islamic jihadist orgs because their hate is "illegal" and the SPLC only tracks "legal" hate, as if one was less hateful than the other!
Obama 2012

AOL

#24 Sep 2, 2012
more truth wrote:
I wonder if these are the same people showing up at the Mormon annual festival in Palmyra? Some people waving signs with bullhorns urging them to leave their false religion.
Atheists used to be silent, now they have billboards up saying all religion is nonsense. The same one who was in the zombie Mohd incident wears t shirts with slogans insulting Christianity.
Lots more intense here than it used to be.
STFU..
The Progressives took over the Democratic Party. You have to be a Godless heathen atheist to be a good "progressive". Pay attention Charlotte! Get with the Program. It's all about the Hate baby!

Obama 2012!
It's in the handbook.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#25 Sep 2, 2012
Obama 2012 wrote:
... Obama 2012!
It's in the handbook.
The qu'ran?

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#26 Sep 2, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes you did (see posts #5,7) and you have employed similar mental gymnastics to justify your anti-Christian/pro-islamic positions on other threads.
Let's see, in post 5 I pointed out that someone's notion that if christians (rather than *atheists*) put up billboards insulting a religion, this would cause an uproar, ignored the fact that this is exactly what christians did according to the newspaper article (and there was no uproar).

In post 7 I scolded ALL religious zealots, regardless of their affiliation.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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For example, it was only recently you posted that the SPLC was justified to list Conservative Christian NGOs as "hate groups" while omiting islamic jihadist orgs because their hate is "illegal" and the SPLC only tracks "legal" hate, as if one was less hateful than the other!
Ah yes, the thread in which you did not want to answer the simple question whether you'd approve of listing the FRC if only CAIR were also listed.

What I pointed out is that the SPLC tracks organizations that are considered legal in the US. If it also would track non-legal organizations and all over the world, it would need a few thousand extra people. Besides, if the SPLC knew where non-legal organizations were located in the US, the FBI would be all over it already!

Also of interest: you completely ignored the examples I provided. That behavior describes Joe DeCaro to a tee: "Inconvenient information? Ignore! Information that can be twisted to suit my agenda? Twist and distort until it suits!"

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#27 Sep 2, 2012
Marco the atheist wrote:
Let's see, in post 5 I pointed out that someone's notion that if christians (rather than *atheists*) put up billboards insulting a religion, this would cause an uproar, ignored the fact that this is exactly what christians did according to the newspaper article (and there was no uproar).
In post 7 I scolded ALL religious zealots, regardless of their affiliation ...
More mental gynmastics, and the only religion you criticized by name was, of course, Christianity.
Marco the atheist wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you read the article? Christians actually put up signs insulting another religion!
Did you read the article, Marco the Imam?
What sign was insulting to islam and what did it say?
Marco the atheist wrote:
What I pointed out is that the SPLC tracks organizations that are considered legal in the US ...
... but CAIR -- an unindicted conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation case -- is perfectly legal in the US, as are other Muslim Brotherhood proxies the SPLC doesn't list.

So let's do the Time Warp again ...
Sue Robbins

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#28 Sep 2, 2012
more truth wrote:
I wonder if these are the same people showing up at the Mormon annual festival in Palmyra? Some people waving signs with bullhorns urging them to leave their false religion.
Atheists used to be silent, now they have billboards up saying all religion is nonsense. The same one who was in the zombie Mohd incident wears t shirts with slogans insulting Christianity.
Lots more intense here than it used to be.
No... Hatred of Mormons isn't a Federal Hate Crime. Obama and his followers foster Hatred of Mormons and Christians as part of their mission to play Americans against one another for perceived political gain.

Remember, we are only Obama Nation now. Obama picks who can Hate and who can't. America voted to be less than and must endure the consequences.

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#29 Sep 2, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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More mental gynmastics, and the only religion you criticized by name was, of course, Christianity.
No, I did not criticize by name the religion christianity. I criticized some christians. But perhaps you don't understand the difference between people and a rather fluid ideology?
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Did you read the article, Marco the Imam?
What sign was insulting to islam and what did it say?
As is well known, muslims don't like it when people are critical of their religion, and rapidly see it as an insult. "Islam is a lie" is, however, as insulting as "There is no god", the 'atheist' billboard that got some christians all upset (oh, yes, and some muslims, too), and which was the likely reference in #3 and 4 about insulting billboards.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
<quoted text>
... but CAIR -- an unindicted conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation case -- is perfectly legal in the US, as are other Muslim Brotherhood proxies the SPLC doesn't list.
So let's do the Time Warp again ...
Yes, let's do the time warp again: an unindicted conspirator, meaning an organisation that is not a party in the court case, must according to Joe DeCaro be added to the SPLC list, or otherwise he cannot accept that the FRC is on the list. Oh wait, Joe DeCaro likely STILL will complain about the list when CAIR *is* added, because it is all an attempt to attack those poor christian conservatives who may be spreading lies about homosexuals and homosexuality, but really, they all do it in the good of promoting traditional marriage.

You must be hating the ADL, too, considering their remarks about "some christian ministers" ("They are attacking christianity!!! OMG!!!") in this piece:
http://www.adl.org/main_Interfaith/ICOM_State...

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#30 Sep 2, 2012
Marco the atheist wrote:
No, I did not criticize by name the religion christianity. I criticized some christians ...
... who, coincidently, practice Christianity, just as the name implies.
Marco the atheist wrote:
As is well known, muslims don't like it when people are critical of their religion ...
... yet you, an alleged atheist, don't like it either. Another coincidence?
Marco the atheist wrote:
Yes, let's do the time warp again: an unindicted conspirator, meaning an organisation that is not a party in the court case, must according to Joe DeCaro be added to the SPLC list ...
Just another islamic NGO that didn't even merit dishonerable mention by the SPLC, which, coincidently, prefers to list Conservative Christian groups as hateful.
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#31 Sep 2, 2012
Some people showed up at Dearborn arab event with signs and loudspeakers. Some people also showed up at Mormon Palmyra meeting with same. Then protestors show up at this DC jumah. I'm just wondering is it the same group in all these places.

Seems to me we will have to extend the meeting law, we can't have people doing this, it violates the right to assembly.

I for one want these muslim extremists to speak out. They put the slam in Islam.
Social security is a lie

Jakarta, Indonesia

#32 Sep 2, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... who, coincidently, practice Christianity, just as the name implies.
<quoted text>
... yet you, an alleged atheist, don't like it either. Another coincidence?
<quoted text>
Everybody that don't agree with you is Muslim? So Adam Smith Muslim? Ayn Rand is Muslim? Porn star is Muslim?
Joe DeCaro wrote:
Just another islamic NGO that didn't even merit dishonerable mention by the SPLC, which, coincidently, prefers to list Conservative Christian groups as hateful.
Christian who don't want to use government force to regulate personal habit is not problem.. The Conservative Christian groups want to use government force to regulate gay, weed, porn is the problem.

The Conservative Christian groups is conservative big government nanny state that want to impose judeo Christian value is the problem. Why Conservative Christian are hated? Because their big government (pretend to be small government) that want to regulate other people personal habits.

Why you want government force to impose gay, weed, porn, polygamy, contract marriage?
Social security is a lie

Jakarta, Indonesia

#33 Sep 2, 2012
Obama 2012 wrote:
<quoted text>
STFU..
The Progressives took over the Democratic Party. You have to be a Godless heathen atheist to be a good "progressive". Pay attention Charlotte! Get with the Program. It's all about the Hate baby!
Obama 2012!
It's in the handbook.
I am atheist but i am not fan of Obama. He still want to continue war on drugs. And he still want government to regulate marriage. If he is for civil liberty, porn business shouldn't be tax.
Social security is a lie

Jakarta, Indonesia

#34 Sep 2, 2012
To conservative Christian

If you have one option to only save person? Who you will prioritize? American atheist porn star or Copt Christian.

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Earth

#35 Sep 3, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... who, coincidently, practice Christianity, just as the name implies.
So what? I have criticized muslims, and yet *you* do not appear to see that as criticizing islam (and let's see your head turning round and round a few more times: I have called islam at present mostly a fascist ideology - you will not find anything like that about christianity that came from me!).

Of course, your comments imply that criticizing the fact that certain christian groups have no problem with homosexuals marrying (heck, even bless that marriage in church) is criticizing christianity!
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... yet you, an alleged atheist, don't like it either. Another coincidence?
Again you make up stuff. What I do not like is one group missing the beam in their own eye while criticizing the speck of dust in someone else's. Surely you know where that saying comes from, yes?

You could have understood that if you looked up my comment about the crusades. Oh sorry, I forgot that that understanding actually requires the ability to take the facts the way they are, rather than always twist them such that they fit your desired belief.

“... truth will out.”

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Stratford, Connecticut.

#36 Sep 3, 2012
Marco the atheist wrote:
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So what? I have criticized muslims ...
... only when you don't have Christians to criticize; for an alleged atheist, you are very selective in what relgions you choose to condemn.

I wonder why?

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#37 Sep 3, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... only when you don't have Christians to criticize;
Why do you lie so much? I have criticized plenty muslims while there were christians around. Ask "Jan" on the Denmark forum. Again a fact that doesn't suit Joe DeCaro, and thus will be ignored.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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for an alleged atheist, you are very selective in what relgions you choose to condemn.
I wonder why?
Where did I "condemn" christianity? Again you have this strange idea that the criticism of ideas of certain christians amounts to condemning of christianity, while you do not take this position when I criticize muslims. That's outright hypocritical, but no surprise coming from you!

Of course, as an atheist I consider *all* religions to be based on myths and fables, but that's quite different from condemning a religion. Unless, again, your name is Joe DeCaro and any criticism is seen as an attack of your religion (which, as I posited elsewhere, would make you a pretty standard addition to the pool of muslims - perhaps in reality you are a closet-muslim, Joe!).

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#38 Sep 3, 2012
Marco the atheist wrote:
Where did I "condemn" christianity? Again you have this strange idea that the criticism of ideas of certain christians amounts to condemning of christianity, while you do not take this position when I criticize muslims ...
I can only speak from what I've seen of your posts on these forums, and from what I've seen, your criticism is reserved for Christians whenever muslims are involved.

Marco, you're more of an islamic sycophant than atheist, and I should know because I have a President who is also an Islamist apologist.

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#39 Sep 3, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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I can only speak from what I've seen of your posts on these forums, and from what I've seen, your criticism is reserved for Christians whenever muslims are involved.
That is because you take any criticism I have against christians or religious people in general as criticism of christianity, while you deliberately ignore my criticism of muslims when christians are involved. You just have this black spot whenever I criticize muslims.
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Marco, you're more of an islamic sycophant than atheist, and I should know because I have a President who is also an Islamist apologist.
...says the closet-muslim. You're just upset that christians like you are getting less and less favorable treatment. You're losing your special position, and thus you must blame what you consider your biggest competition: muslims. You know they want the same as what you have had for so long. If it is up to me, neither of you get that preferential treatment. Heck, it's even in your constitution that there should be no such preferential treatment, and yet religious zealots have managed to get it anyway.

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#40 Sep 4, 2012
Social security is a lie wrote:
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M.E muslim should learn to be apathetic. If they know how to do non-violent civil disobedient, they can handle situation better. For example: all Muslim shop owner start firing all Christian workers.
. Bad advice, if any business owner fires all workers that belong to one specific group it is automatically clear that there is a racial or religious bias. In such a case, the business owner can and most likely would be taken to court and successfully sued .

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