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Details emerge in Covelo marijuana arrests

Full story: The Ukiah Daily Journal

A day before marijuana charges against four men were dropped Tuesday due to insufficient evidence, new arrests were made by police in connection with the same Bentley Ridge Covelo-area property.

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Mema

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Oct 17, 2009
 
Sounds like it was lack of desire to do their job as prosecutors.
Tsunami Salami

Ukiah, CA

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Oct 17, 2009
 
anonymous wrote:
What part of "exempt" in prop 215 and SB420 do the police not understand.
Sick, disabled and dying patients throughout California are still being raided by SWAT teams, arrested, jailed, humiliated, treated like criminals, bankrupted, children abducted by CPS and made even sicker, because of those who are still deliberately opposing this law thirteen years after the People of California voted to exempt patients and caregivers from criminal penalties and sanctions.
It is time to separate opinion from fact and uphold the Compassionate Use Act as it was written and passed by the People of California.
District Attorney Linnote , the lives of sick, disabled and dying patients are in the hands of dedicated and otherwise well-intentioned public officials like yourself. Those who read your words on an official DA website need to hear directly from you that the information you gave them was wrong and is actually part of an carefully crafted plan hatched by Attorney General Dan Lungren, under color of law, to subvert a law that prosecutors don't like.
Regardless of what your sheriff or police chief has told you about Prop. 215, Attorney General Lungren, acting in his official capacity, issued a statement to all California voters, in the 1996 California Ballot Guide, Official Title and Summary for Proposition 215, that Prop. 215:
"EXEMPTS: patients and defined caregivers who possess or cultivate marijuana for medical treatment recommended by a physician FROM CRIMINAL LAWS WHICH OTHERWISE PROHIBIT possession or cultivation of marijuana." [emphasis added] See What Part Of 'Exempt' Do California District Attorneys Still Not Understand?
No matter what your superiors may tell you, it is your responsibility to uphold ALL the laws, even the ones you don't like. Your boss has no authority to tell you otherwise, because the Constitution of the State of California, Amendment III, Section 3.5 requires ALL officials to uphold The Compassionate Use Act as follows:
"An administrative agency, including an administrative agency created by the Constitution or an initiative statute, has no power:(a) To declare a statute unenforceable, or refuse to enforce a statute, on the basis of it being unconstitutional unless an appellate court has made a determination that such statute is unconstitutional;
(b) To declare a statute unconstitutional;
(c) To declare a statute unenforceable, or to refuse to enforce a statute on the basis that federal law or federal regulations prohibit the enforcement of such statute unless an appellate court has made a determination that the enforcement of such statute is prohibited by federal law or federal regulations."
Since no judicial challenge has been filed seeking to invalidate the law on the basis of a conflict with federal laws or regulations, or for any other reason, you are legally obligated to uphold the Compassionate Use Act.
HEY STUPID what part of commercial grow dont you understand.poooooor sick dying people.the morons wifey poooo had a 40.ooo dollar check.sick dying people dont have that kind of money.and if they did they would have their own property to grow on,end of reply......
Editer

Ukiah, CA

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Oct 17, 2009
 
This story is hard to read. It bounces around a lot. You lost me on the $40k check.
John

San Rafael, CA

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Oct 17, 2009
 
Hella dicey story, I agree. The moral of the story is legalize it.
Kenneth Briggs

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Oct 17, 2009
 
Good jobs COPS . Where was it going to ? Grow on your patch of land and smoke on your land. Where was your card for the stuff . What was the $ 40.000 for You did not make it out to me, so you lost that also .You had a chance to go and hide and move your stash with that $ 40.0000 The courts told you to get the hell out of here. how dumb and stupid are you ? What now A year and a day in jail and pay for the court cost this time . O then being this is feds baby what jail are you going to . A good show for Cops on T V to show how dumb you are .
Occam

Redwood Valley, CA

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Oct 17, 2009
 
Serious question, how long can 37 pounds of pot keep a medical user going?
Government Cheeze

Laytonville, CA

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Oct 17, 2009
 
23 pounds in the cabin + 17 pounds in the truck = 45 pounds total (you do the math!) divided by3 bongfuls a week equals 674 years of medication ..... whadda greedy cabbage turd!

Keep on keeping on Cops, good trumps bad!
ex-covelonian

San Francisco, CA

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Oct 17, 2009
 
This thread is confusing because it was started by someone who was stoned and used a bunch of propaganda spotted owl crap! Having a plant or two per year would be enough for someone to have for medicinal use only. Anything over that, should be fair game for the LAW, because it is still "FEDERAL LAW" that marijuana is still "ILLEGAL" California voters were cool enough for giving the rights to grow for medicinal purpose only, but a lot of people are taking advantage of it and selling it. Not cool!! That's the reason why people who do do it for the right reasons, are getting screwed over and caught and put in jail. If done right, a plant can produce 3-5 lbs. That's enough for one person. Anything over that is trouble and you deserve to be caught and prosecuted!!
BEGETS

Redwood Valley, CA

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Oct 17, 2009
 
Oh, aint organized crime grand. The "one" responsible is caught, the crime boss' relative gets a walk, and no one is held accountable in the end. The public (law abiding and naive) is placated and assumes that the "bad guy" is being held accountable.

You gotta love Mendo, where it's not about whether or not a crime has been committed, but whether or not a jury of dopers can be influenced to be impartial.

It's not about medicine, it's not about healing, it's not about a "harmless plant", it's not about economics, it's not about "compassion", and it's not about marijuana.

It's about the "end around", "quasi legalization", "I'm only selling my dope "medicine" to sick people, well, "dispensaries" who know "sick" people.

I only make "reasonable compensation" in the form of car payments, mortgage, utilities, food, clothing, health care, rent, Oh yeah a jacked up truck and four vacations this year, Oh wait a minute, I'm not a greedy "dope grower" so I just make my car payment,pay my mortgage, utilities, food, clothing, health care and rent.

When it comes down to it the definition of "reasonable compensation" will be defined similar to the old "get out out of jail free card" of "Care giver".

Oh, and by the way, they don't object to the numerical limits specified in SB 420, they object to the so called "exemptions".
Los Banos

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Oct 17, 2009
 
Begget, Chill out man! If you really want to make a difference, run for office. I'll vote for you.
BEGETS wrote:
Oh, aint organized crime grand. The "one" responsible is caught, the crime boss' relative gets a walk, and no one is held accountable in the end. The public (law abiding and naive) is placated and assumes that the "bad guy" is being held accountable.
You gotta love Mendo, where it's not about whether or not a crime has been committed, but whether or not a jury of dopers can be influenced to be impartial.
It's not about medicine, it's not about healing, it's not about a "harmless plant", it's not about economics, it's not about "compassion", and it's not about marijuana.
It's about the "end around", "quasi legalization", "I'm only selling my dope "medicine" to sick people, well, "dispensaries" who know "sick" people.
I only make "reasonable compensation" in the form of car payments, mortgage, utilities, food, clothing, health care, rent, Oh yeah a jacked up truck and four vacations this year, Oh wait a minute, I'm not a greedy "dope grower" so I just make my car payment,pay my mortgage, utilities, food, clothing, health care and rent.
When it comes down to it the definition of "reasonable compensation" will be defined similar to the old "get out out of jail free card" of "Care giver".
Oh, and by the way, they don't object to the numerical limits specified in SB 420, they object to the so called "exemptions".
BEGETS

Redwood Valley, CA

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Oct 17, 2009
 
Los Banos wrote:
Begget, Chill out man! If you really want to make a difference, run for office. I'll vote for you. <quoted text>
I'm going to hold you to that "Los Banos"..........

“Illegitimati non carborundum”

Since: Nov 08

Ukiah, Ca.

ISP: Hidden Valley Lake, CA

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Oct 18, 2009
 
ex-covelonian wrote:
This thread is confusing because it was started by someone who was stoned and used a bunch of propaganda spotted owl crap! Having a plant or two per year would be enough for someone to have for medicinal use only. Anything over that, should be fair game for the LAW, because it is still "FEDERAL LAW" that marijuana is still "ILLEGAL" California voters were cool enough for giving the rights to grow for medicinal purpose only, but a lot of people are taking advantage of it and selling it. Not cool!! That's the reason why people who do do it for the right reasons, are getting screwed over and caught and put in jail. If done right, a plant can produce 3-5 lbs. That's enough for one person. Anything over that is trouble and you deserve to be caught and prosecuted!!
More ignorance I see.
1 indoor plant "might" yield 3 ounces but that is only if everything goes right. That's 84 grams. At 1.5 to 2 grams a day your talking 42 days worth or less. Double that for your ridiculous 2 plant limit and you get 84 days worth. I myself make tinctures and butter and oils. This requires ounces to be used at a time. The last time I made oil it required 3 ounces be cooked down for about one quarts worth of oil. 1 to 1 1/2 weeks worth of oil required 3 ounces. Just to keep enough oil for a year requires almost 10lbs of cannabis. That's just oil. Butter requires about the same but goes a little further. Tinctures use ounces at a time too. The average outdoor plant produces about 1 lb. 3 to 5 lb plants are not the norm.
If you were a medical cannabis user or had ever grown before you would know what I say is true.
Brian C

Costa Mesa, CA

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Oct 18, 2009
 
sounds like those bulgarians sang like some little birds
perpetual cycle

San Francisco, CA

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Oct 18, 2009
 
ex-covelonian wrote:
This thread is confusing because it was started by someone who was stoned and used a bunch of propaganda spotted owl crap! Having a plant or two per year would be enough for someone to have for medicinal use only. Anything over that, should be fair game for the LAW, because it is still "FEDERAL LAW" that marijuana is still "ILLEGAL" California voters were cool enough for giving the rights to grow for medicinal purpose only, but a lot of people are taking advantage of it and selling it. Not cool!! That's the reason why people who do do it for the right reasons, are getting screwed over and caught and put in jail. If done right, a plant can produce 3-5 lbs. That's enough for one person. Anything over that is trouble and you deserve to be caught and prosecuted!!
From another ex-Coveloian, you are one hundred percent correct! I remember my hometown before the cartels came in along with the profiteers under the guise of medicine. I prefer the old days when it was illegal, the locals grew a couple of plants for personnel use, and no one cared. At least then we didn't see our wildlife being poisoned and killed, massive amounts of pollution, theft of our water, and murders of locals that go unanswered. Love, a fellow ex-Covelo-ian!
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Oct 19, 2009
 
ex-covelonian wrote:
This thread is confusing because it was started by someone who was stoned and used a bunch of propaganda spotted owl crap! Having a plant or two per year would be enough for someone to have for medicinal use only. Anything over that, should be fair game for the LAW, because it is still "FEDERAL LAW" that marijuana is still "ILLEGAL" California voters were cool enough for giving the rights to grow for medicinal purpose only, but a lot of people are taking advantage of it and selling it. Not cool!! That's the reason why people who do do it for the right reasons, are getting screwed over and caught and put in jail. If done right, a plant can produce 3-5 lbs. That's enough for one person. Anything over that is trouble and you deserve to be caught and prosecuted!!
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration will not seek to arrest medical
marijuana users and suppliers as long as they conform to state laws,
under new policy guidelines to be sent to federal prosecutors Monday.
Two Justice Department officials described the new policy, saying
prosecutors will be told it is not a good use of their time to arrest
people who use or provide medical marijuana in strict compliance with
state laws.
The new policy is a significant departure from the Bush administration,
which insisted it would continue to enforce federal anti-pot laws
regardless of state codes.
Fourteen states allow some use of marijuana for medical purposes:
Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Michigan,
Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington.
California is unique among those for the widespread presence of
dispensaries — businesses that sell marijuana and even advertise their
services. Colorado also has several dispensaries, and Rhode Island and
New Mexico are in the process of licensing providers, according to the
Marijuana Policy Project, a group that promotes the decriminalization of
marijuana use.
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Oct 19, 2009
 
Attorney General Eric Holder said in March that he wanted federal law
enforcement officials to pursue those who violate both federal and state
law, but it has not been clear how that goal would be put into practice.
A three-page memo spelling out the policy is expected to be sent Monday
to federal prosecutors in the 14 states, and also to top officials at
the FBI and the Drug Enforcement Administration.
The memo, the officials said, emphasizes that prosecutors have wide
discretion in choosing which cases to pursue, and says it is not a good
use of federal manpower to prosecute those who are without a doubt in
compliance with state law.
The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not
authorized to discuss the legal guidance before it is issued.
“This is a major step forward,” said Bruce Mirken, communications
director for the Marijuana Policy Project.“This change in policy moves
the federal government dramatically toward respecting scientific and
practical reality.”
At the same time, the officials said, the government will still
prosecute those who use medical marijuana as a cover for other illegal
activity. The memo particularly warns that some suspects may hide
old-fashioned drug dealing or other crimes behind a medical marijuana
business.
In particular, the memo urges prosecutors to pursue marijuana cases
which involve violence, the illegal use of firearms, selling pot to
minors, money laundering or other crimes.
And while the policy memo describes a change in priorities away from
prosecuting medical marijuana cases, it does not rule out the
possibility that the federal government could still prosecute someone
whose activities are allowed under state law.
The memo, officials said, is designed to give a sense of prosecutorial
priorities to U.S. Attorneys in the states that allow medical marijuana.
It notes that pot sales in the United States are the largest source of
money for violent Mexican drug cartels, but adds that federal law
enforcement agencies have limited resources.
Medical marijuana advocates have been anxious to see exactly how the
administration would implement candidate Barack Obama’s repeated
promises to change the policy in situations in which state laws allow
the use of medical marijuana.
Shortly after Obama took office, DEA agents raided four dispensaries in
Los Angeles, prompting confusion about the government’s plans.
anoid

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#19
Oct 19, 2009
 
sounds like a hoyle fish story again, judge throws it out and little pete goes off to prove he was right. another waste of the courts time and the tax payers monies.
well then

San Francisco, CA

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Oct 19, 2009
 
Maybe it is time for the citizens to start protecting their own environment and its locals if Obama refuses to do so. Rid the hills of the infestation before more are killed.
mendo

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#21
Oct 19, 2009
 
Screw these foreign fockers, it was a total commercial grow! Go back to the Bay area.
Two Feathers

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Oct 19, 2009
 
Good luck with any case involving Holye! After all his employee file is nearly 2ft.thick... ask anyone invooved with trasporthing it from East Bay Oakland to Ukiah and Back! Holy! Try another cup!
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