layoff at Colwich ICM

[marlin]

no ethanol plants in the future to be built no money for investing. no profit for investors the price of corn high at $6 a bushel.

[Former ICM Employee]

When the powers that be hire friends instead of qualified people, the number of employees becomes inflated past levels that are adequate to run the company. Dave VanderGriend is directly to blame for turning a blind eye to this practice at ICM as the number of his employees has more than doubled in the last couple of years. Consequently, those that were hired because they knew one of the higher ups have kept their jobs during this layoff regardless of how much they actually knew about ethanol or how productive they were within the company. Shame on Mr. VanderGriend for taking a hands off approach in the growth of his company. He was too busy "promoting" ethanol to see that there were corrupt individuals who were only interested in furthering their own agendas.

[former employee too]

D.A.
it's not fair to put the blame solely on Dave. You know very well that the market and funding issues led to the layoffs. Yes, people hired friends, but they also hired family. You'll find bad eggs in any company...an owner has to extend some level of trust to his people, if that trust is breached, then that fault goes to the individual. If corruption was a factor, then those idividuals are to blame, not DVG.

[STN Ethanol Supporter]

Blame The Ethanol Stall-Out on the BIG OIL COMPANY'S they are the ones in the driver seat of where this country is going to go and are putting the billions of dollars in record profits right into there pockets. That is what is driving the price of everything up is their profits and no rules or regulations where the prices should be.
Ethanol is Awesome for the USA, but all the negativity comes RIGHT FROM THE BIG OIL COMPANYS.
Ethanol is VERY POSITIVE for the USA and we need to get the public to understand and support Ethanol. We NEED More Marketing and Education on Ethanol nationwide.
And Dave I Support you 200%
Thank You and Live Right!

[Stupid People]

Please do your math and research before making an coment. Ethanol is VERY bad. It produces more CO2 and CO than gasoline. It takes more than a third more fuel to produce the same amount of power. If Ethanol was used in place of oil the results would be very dangerious.

STN Ethanol Supporter wrote:

Ethanol is VERY POSITIVE for the USA and we need to get the public to understand and support Ethanol. We NEED More Marketing and Education on Ethanol nationwide.
And Dave I Support you 200%
Thank You and Live Right!

[Nate VG]

Whoever wrote this should be ashamed of themselves. Dave didn't want to layoff anyone. It was very difficult for him and it comes down to what is more important, keeping people around that don't have a job to do, or cutting costs in a hurting industry and economy. When in comes to a hands on approach, i would like to see anyone else do a better job being a good/fair business owner and taking a company from 100 - 700+ employees in a matter of a couple years. I'm sure he was very fair to you when you were there.

Former ICM Employee wrote:

When the powers that be hire friends instead of qualified people, the number of employees becomes inflated past levels that are adequate to run the company. Dave VanderGriend is directly to blame for turning a blind eye to this practice at ICM as the number of his employees has more than doubled in the last couple of years. Consequently, those that were hired because they knew one of the higher ups have kept their jobs during this layoff regardless of how much they actually knew about ethanol or how productive they were within the company. Shame on Mr. VanderGriend for taking a hands off approach in the growth of his company. He was too busy "promoting" ethanol to see that there were corrupt individuals who were only interested in furthering their own agendas.

[ICM is screwed]

Nate VG wrote:

Whoever wrote this should be ashamed of themselves. Dave didn't want to layoff anyone. It was very difficult for him and it comes down to what is more important, keeping people around that don't have a job to do, or cutting costs in a hurting industry and economy. When in comes to a hands on approach, i would like to see anyone else do a better job being a good/fair business owner and taking a company from 100 - 700+ employees in a matter of a couple years. I'm sure he was very fair to you when you were there.
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Hmm, Nate VanderGriend. Did this comment hit a little close to home?

[elbow]

Former ICM Employee wrote:

When the powers that be hire friends instead of qualified people, the number of employees becomes inflated past levels that are adequate to run the company. Dave VanderGriend is directly to blame for turning a blind eye to this practice at ICM as the number of his employees has more than doubled in the last couple of years. Consequently, those that were hired because they knew one of the higher ups have kept their jobs during this layoff regardless of how much they actually knew about ethanol or how productive they were within the company. Shame on Mr. VanderGriend for taking a hands off approach in the growth of his company. He was too busy "promoting" ethanol to see that there were corrupt individuals who were only interested in furthering their own agendas.

Hiring friends happens in every company dumb ars!

[Nate VG]

ICM is screwed wrote:

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Hmm, Nate VanderGriend. Did this comment hit a little close to home?

Does i matter what my last name is? You obviously have no clue what you are talking about...

[Pixelator]

elbow wrote:

<quoted text>Hiring friends happens in every company dumb ars!

i think u missed their point.

[stampke]

This is the 3rd ethanol bust I have seen in my life time. The problem is the feed stock (corn) has no correlation to the value (pricing) of hydrocarbons (oil & gas). When the government dabbles in the free market, false economies are developed. Ethanol is not capable of survival without the government. It is not "VG"s fault its economics.

[Former employee]

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