Henderson deputies uncover county's l...

Henderson deputies uncover county's largest pot operation

There are 74 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Dec 18, 2007, titled Henderson deputies uncover county's largest pot operation. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

Two face drug charges after authorities recently seized more than 200 marijuana plants in the county's "largest and most sophisticated" marijuana grow operation, Henderson County Sheriff Rick Davis said.

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“born here/raised here”

Since: Jun 07

asheville

#41 Dec 19, 2007
Stone Jack Baller wrote:
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Apparently I do as do the majority of "voting" Americans otherwise the laws would be changed or repealed. And yes again, I do believe illegal street drug users and the purveyors thereof are as bad as sex offenders and pedophiles, becasue they destroy the lives of young children just as dramatically.
Perhaps the way you view life might be clearer if you got off the weed and its addictive influence?
great words sir!

“Greetings from the Twin Cities”

Since: Apr 07

Bloomington, MN

#42 Dec 19, 2007
Come on guys. There can be no correlation between sex offenders and dope smokers. You state that THEY destroy the lives of young children just as dramatically. WTH! That is ridiculous. I have personal experience with both situations. My daughter was sexually assaulted. The guy is doing 35 years. I was busted for possession of marijuana and got a 6 year sentence. So, I believe that I can speak from experience for both situations.
Those who sexually assault people are directly harming a person without their consent. Those who smoke pot tend to sit on the couch and eat. If you are trying to say that those people who smoke pot hold a kid down and force smoke into their lungs, then you are an idiot.
If we think back on what actions tend to be illegal, they are typically an action that directly affects another individual or an individual's liberty. I challenge anyone in this forum to identify a criminal law that applies to possessing a naturally occurring substance (other than marijuana and mushrooms).
When the government realizes that it will have MORE control over the "substances" if they were to legalize and regulate it, we will all be better off. If it were regulated, the government could control who is legally able to sell it (which would then make blackmarket sale of pot illegal - much easier to prove). They could also control where it would be available (look at Amsterdam). Basically the government is holding on to archaic laws because they don't want to admit they are wrong.
Now, as for Stone Jack Baller, I am not sure what you are insinuating when you put the voting in quotations, but there are plenty of us that do believe in marijuana law reformation and DO VOTE! It will just be a matter of time before the propaganda is realized by those of you who are blindly believing what the government is stating as fact.
One other thing to keep in mind is that Marijuana is currently listed as a Schedule I drug. This means that there is no medicinal value. Yet there are prescriptions being distributed for Marinol which is a synthetic THC (the active ingredient in marijuana). So, obviously there is a medicinal value to THC but yet the scheduling has not changed.
hillbilly45

Dallas, TX

#43 Dec 19, 2007
Chris wrote:
Well I am surprised all the comments of support for these criminals. If you think legalizing drugs will end crime your a fool. Legal or not, the addict will do ANYTHING to get the fix. They will still rob, assault, break in and commit armed robbery if desperate enough, just to get the next high. I accept that marijuana is not as serious as crack, but were not talking about a dime bag here. We are talking about tens of thousands of dollars from an illegal grow. They at least owe taxes from their ill gotten gains.
I am sure these two have had a criminal past and they are not the innocent law abiding citizens you all are trying to make them out to be.
This is a perfect example of how our goverment[Fed., State and Local]condition and control the minds of so many people with the propaganda they put out. Chris is a fool and doesn't have a clue.Wake up America and think for your selves. Our God given right of choice is and has been taken from us.
Raz Lemons

Ponte Vedra Beach, FL

#44 Dec 19, 2007
Ghost Dog wrote:
Guess the dope heads at warren wilson will have to sniff glue for their high for a little bit now.
No dog you're wrong, The next grower will just pick up where these guys got cut off, and if they're true capitalists their prices will go up !

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#45 Dec 19, 2007
nakedlobo wrote:
Come on guys. There can be no correlation between sex offenders and dope smokers. You state that THEY destroy the lives of young children just as dramatically. WTH! That is ridiculous. I have personal experience with both situations. My daughter was sexually assaulted. The guy is doing 35 years. I was busted for possession of marijuana and got a 6 year sentence. So, I believe that I can speak from experience for both situations.
Those who sexually assault people are directly harming a person without their consent. Those who smoke pot tend to sit on the couch and eat. If you are trying to say that those people who smoke pot hold a kid down and force smoke into their lungs, then you are an idiot.
If we think back on what actions tend to be illegal, they are typically an action that directly affects another individual or an individual's liberty. I challenge anyone in this forum to identify a criminal law that applies to possessing a naturally occurring substance (other than marijuana and mushrooms).
When the government realizes that it will have MORE control over the "substances" if they were to legalize and regulate it, we will all be better off. If it were regulated, the government could control who is legally able to sell it (which would then make blackmarket sale of pot illegal - much easier to prove). They could also control where it would be available (look at Amsterdam). Basically the government is holding on to archaic laws because they don't want to admit they are wrong.
Now, as for Stone Jack Baller, I am not sure what you are insinuating when you put the voting in quotations, but there are plenty of us that do believe in marijuana law reformation and DO VOTE! It will just be a matter of time before the propaganda is realized by those of you who are blindly believing what the government is stating as fact.
One other thing to keep in mind is that Marijuana is currently listed as a Schedule I drug. This means that there is no medicinal value. Yet there are prescriptions being distributed for Marinol which is a synthetic THC (the active ingredient in marijuana). So, obviously there is a medicinal value to THC but yet the scheduling has not changed.
However you and the other supporters/users/abusers of illegal drugs (err, excuse me...controlled substances) want to destroy yourselves is your business. Just make sure you reprobates stay away from the children of America. Because if I ever see you selling to kids or offering them a free toke, you’ll wish the devil himself was chasing you and not me. And, if I learn that you or your friends are growing or smoking or selling the stuff, I’ll turn you in faster than you can say – flush it! You can't be a very bright fellow if you got busted and and received a 6 year sentence. That tells me you are either stupid or addicted or both to continue using the stuff!

And as for your stupid remarks that the government is brain washing the public…duh, we are the government because we vote to keep the stuff illegal and pot heads like you in the bowels of society.
lame jack

United States

#46 Dec 19, 2007
Stone Jack Baller wrote:
<quoted text>
However you and the other supporters/users/abusers of illegal drugs (err, excuse me...controlled substances) want to destroy yourselves is your business. Just make sure you reprobates stay away from the children of America. Because if I ever see you selling to kids or offering them a free toke, you’ll wish the devil himself was chasing you and not me. And, if I learn that you or your friends are growing or smoking or selling the stuff, I’ll turn you in faster than you can say – flush it! You can't be a very bright fellow if you got busted and and received a 6 year sentence. That tells me you are either stupid or addicted or both to continue using the stuff!
And as for your stupid remarks that the government is brain washing the public…duh, we are the government because we vote to keep the stuff illegal and pot heads like you in the bowels of society.
If you are so freakin worried about the "children of america" then why aren't you ranting about prescription pills which are widely abused by youth. It's easier for children to find these addictive painkillers then it is for them to find high quality herb. Usually all they need to do is look in their parents medicine cabinet.

And concerning your "we are the government" remark.... have you opened your eyes lately?? They are slowly taking away all of our freedoms.
dosomrealwork

Hickory, NC

#47 Dec 19, 2007
look all you people who are bashing weed need to do some research and not be so ignorant on the subject. thedad meth and weed are 2 totally different things and should not be used in the same sentence. Im sorry for your daughter but its not the weeds fault.Weed could probably help her. Just do some research and not some government site either.
Jess

Fletcher, NC

#48 Dec 19, 2007
why dosent the cops in hendo spend their time and money on more important issues. pot man is not hurting anyone. they should be more worried about the amt of illegal immigrants in the county. and i really wouldnt be suprised if what we were told was busted is only half of what he was growing. funny how it seems to "disappear" between the bust and when it gets weighed
Chris

Lake Lure, NC

#49 Dec 19, 2007
hillbilly45 wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a perfect example of how our goverment[Fed., State and Local]condition and control the minds of so many people with the propaganda they put out. Chris is a fool and doesn't have a clue.Wake up America and think for your selves. Our God given right of choice is and has been taken from us.
I am not a fool, and I do have a clue. I see what this stuff does to people everyday. It destroys lives and clouds the mind. Obviously your mind is clouded too. You dont need an intoxicating substance or a hallucinogen do enjoy life?? Live sober, clear headed, eat healthy and go hiking with sober mind and body. Enjoy the short life God has given you to live and do something useful in your life. Or would you rather sit in a dark room, stoned out of your freaking mind and wonder why the government is out out to get you !!!!
what the

Asheville, NC

#50 Dec 19, 2007
Stone Jack Baller wrote:
I'd like to propose new legislation for marijuana users as well as other illegal drug users and providers.
The legislation would be modeled after Megan’s Law. The new law will make it mandatory for anyone convicted of illegal possession of marijuana or any other illegal street drug to register with local law enforcement. That way parents and grandparents, and other concerned citizens can look up on-line where the snot nosed, hacking red eyes live and keep the kids away from their slothful dens.
The second part of the new law would put a mandatory restraining order on each new convict requiring them to get no closer than 1320 feet (1/4 mile) from any school, playground, shopping center or place where children (under 18) congregate in numbers larger that five individuals. This is what is needed to keep the pot and drug using creeps away from our youth, just like we now do with the sex offenders. And yes, I consider them to be equal in their destructive abilities.
a true pinhead

Since: Oct 07

Asheville, NC

#51 Dec 19, 2007
hillbilly45 wrote:
<quoted text>
This is a perfect example of how our goverment[Fed., State and Local]condition and control the minds of so many people with the propaganda they put out. Chris is a fool and doesn't have a clue.Wake up America and think for your selves. Our God given right of choice is and has been taken from us.
And this is a perfect example of how our burned out stoners of society believe the propaganda of other stoners.

The right of choice is there, but unfortunately for you (and your fellow stoners), more Americans that vote want to keep marijuana illegal. This is a democracy...sucks to be you.

“Greetings from the Twin Cities”

Since: Apr 07

Bloomington, MN

#52 Dec 19, 2007
Stone Jack Baller, first of all, I am quite bright. I have a wonderful job and chose to challenge the laws in a responsible, Constitutional sense. What these forums are for are the free expression of beliefs. This actually provides a basis for grass-roots campaigning.
One thing I can agree with you on is that since I received a 6 year sentence, I WAS stupid. I made stupid mistakes that put me in the public eye. But, surprise, surprise, I grew up and now know that you have to be responsible about everything you do (not only in drug use). If a person can responsibly drink alcohol, they can also responsibly smoke pot. They are much the same. The only real difference between the two is archaic laws that are on their way out. Once the laws are realized for what they really are (a method of control), they will be repealed.
The government is doing the brainwashing simply because they don't want to admit they were wrong. There is no great menace that develops due to smoking pot.
So, Stone Jack Baller, go watch your almost worn out VHS copy of Reefer Madness and delight in the evils you are opposing.
Now, Chris, not everyone who opposes your beliefs have "clouded minds." In fact, most pot smokers don't "need" something to enjoy life, they just prefer to have something else available. You state that we should enjoy the life God has given you, we ARE! Not all stoners sit in a dark room being paranoid. Many of us participate in our daily functions of going to PTA meetings, community council meetings, and other community organizations. If we went home from these functions and drank a glass of wine or drank a cocktail, would be be bad people? No, it is merely the stigma associated with marijuana that makes you think of the stereotype you portray.
Fed Up-CH, WTH? Do you not recognize this for what it is. This is an opportunity for us to take back the freedoms granted to us through the Constitution and Bill of Rights. This is a democracy. This is an opportunity for us to speak our mind and debate the topic at hand... the legalization of marijuana. Just realize that the money and time spent looking for the occasional stoner is money and time that could be spent on worthwhile projects such as stopping the violent crimes and educating our children.
feduponmyknees

United States

#53 Dec 19, 2007
Fed Up-CH wrote:
<quoted text>
And this is a perfect example of how our burned out stoners of society believe the propaganda of other stoners.
The right of choice is there, but unfortunately for you (and your fellow stoners), more Americans that vote want to keep marijuana illegal. This is a democracy...sucks to be you.
When have you ever VOTED to keep weed illegal???
Buford T Justice

Atlanta, GA

#54 Dec 19, 2007
Chris wrote:
Well I am surprised all the comments of support for these criminals. If you think legalizing drugs will end crime your a fool. Legal or not, the addict will do ANYTHING to get the fix. They will still rob, assault, break in and commit armed robbery if desperate enough, just to get the next high. I accept that marijuana is not as serious as crack, but were not talking about a dime bag here. We are talking about tens of thousands of dollars from an illegal grow. They at least owe taxes from their ill gotten gains.
I am sure these two have had a criminal past and they are not the innocent law abiding citizens you all are trying to make them out to be.
What an id!ot!
Jo Jack

Jonesborough, TN

#55 Dec 19, 2007
nakedlobo wrote:
I am so relieved... they busted a botanist. When will the government start putting police force to real work, like finding the violent criminals. They need to leave pot smokers and pot growers alone.
If you will supply them with some upcoming crimes, I'm sure "they" will.
Buford T Justice

Atlanta, GA

#56 Dec 19, 2007
Stone Jack Baller wrote:
<quoted text>
However you and the other supporters/users/abusers of illegal drugs (err, excuse me...controlled substances) want to destroy yourselves is your business. Just make sure you reprobates stay away from the children of America. Because if I ever see you selling to kids or offering them a free toke, you’ll wish the devil himself was chasing you and not me. And, if I learn that you or your friends are growing or smoking or selling the stuff, I’ll turn you in faster than you can say – flush it! You can't be a very bright fellow if you got busted and and received a 6 year sentence. That tells me you are either stupid or addicted or both to continue using the stuff!
And as for your stupid remarks that the government is brain washing the public…duh, we are the government because we vote to keep the stuff illegal and pot heads like you in the bowels of society.
another id!ot!
Buford T Justice

Atlanta, GA

#58 Dec 19, 2007
God has given us life. He has created certain herbs and plants for eating and healing.

" Every moving thing that liveth shall be meant for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things." (Gen 9:3).

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#59 Dec 19, 2007
I'm simply amazed at the lack of intelligent argument from the dopers! If there is one central theme to the doper argument it is the laws of this country are to be selectively followed depending on whether or not it suits an individual. That is simply a formula for anarchy!

Do what you will. In the end your health problems will become a burden to you and society, and I suppose you’ll want us to pay for your healthcare through some sort of socialized medicine.

You drug heads are truly the dregs of humanity and deserve to be flushed out with the rest of the waste. Hopefully you’ve smoked so much you’ve become sterile and can not reproduce.

Your denial of the facts that drugs (including pot) are helping to ruin America are made from some belief that the more you shout the more your inane arguments gain credibility. You want some real facts smokey-joe, go visit any of the “projects” in any large city. You’ll soon see that pot does kill – literally!

Keep watching for “the man” because he’s coming. And get off the dream that pot will be legalized in your life time – ain’t ever gonna happen!

“Greetings from the Twin Cities”

Since: Apr 07

Bloomington, MN

#60 Dec 19, 2007
Jo Jack wrote:
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If you will supply them with some upcoming crimes, I'm sure "they" will.
What?
JACKIE AND ARLENE

Miami, FL

#61 Dec 19, 2007
LEGALIZE MARY JANE!!!!! IF WE COULD SMOKE MARY JANE, WE WOULDN'T NEED NERVE PILLS,ALCOHOL,CIGARETTES AND ALL THAT STUFF. WE WOULD PROBABLY CUT DOWN ON OVER DOSING AND ALL THAT OTHER ADDICTIVE STUFF AND MAKE ALL OF US MUCH HEALTHIER !!!

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