Is the Columbus music scene legitimate

Created by I Love Music on Jul 8, 2012

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Yes, its varied and alive

No, its dead, not much talent in these parts

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1749 Jan 29, 2013
This forum could wrote:
This forum could be very nice if only the self promoter wasn't hogging it. I walk Custer Road after PT to the Sgt. Major's Office to check my e-mail and see what is going on in Columbus and the slow computer has to dig through mounds of those horrible songs and poems and links to buy the mess. I think I'll just call THE SABER office at CSU and ask a few students what they suggest. Why is a 65 year old man hogging your town's forum? It is not right.
There really is plenty of room for all, my friend... just start another thread and ignore this one.

That simple.

--
Music & poetry from Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1751 Jan 30, 2013
Well, my focus in writing is to strike a *universal chord*... the goal is to appeak to the special moments of everyone, although of course it is improssible to appeal to all listeners everywhere, or in every life situation.

And in that spirit, here's one of my song-poems, Twilight Girl, written by Will Dockery & Henry Conley, one of what I consider one of my more successful poems, perfectly framed in musical arrangement by some of the best in the Columbus-Phenix City music scene...

http://youtu.be/BYETTK16jQI

Twilight Girl

Six or six thousand,
we will meet again.
At blazing dusk,
or quiet dawn.
On that shore... again.
This is the wait,
the weight of the world.
Comes down sweet and heavy...
Twilight Girl.
On that quiet morning,
clear, crispy light.
Seeing a movie from a distance,
mourning in front of her flight.
This is the wait,
the weight of the world.
Comes down sweet and heavy,
Twilight Girl.
She offered me her cup,
asked me to fill it up,
I said "Later, babe.
Right now we have to talk
untangle the chakra
that crosses over."
Ghost horses,
from the car ahead,
looks like engine exhaust.
Blink my eyes through bitter tears,
a smile for what we've lost.
This is the wait,
the weight of the world.
Comes down sweet and heavy...
Twilight Girl.

Words: Will Dockery
Music: Henry Conley

Vocals: Will Dockery, Guitar: Henry Conley, Bass: Doug Conley, Flute: Gene Woolfolk, Jr. Drums: John Phillips.
Twilight Girl, written by Will Dockery & Henry Conley, from the CD Shadowville Speedway.© 2009 Library of Congress Registration Number / Date: PAu003501816 / 2008-09-23

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Over You / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://youtu.be/4rvCp_xzWH8

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1753 Jan 30, 2013
Rusty wrote:
<quoted text>

It's unfortunate that folks feel that way.. Will is a good guy.
Indeed, I try to be but I also have to call 'em as I see 'em and sometimes folks get their feelings hurt from the honesty.

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Over You / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://youtu.be/4rvCp_xzWH8

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1755 Jan 30, 2013
No, the particular phrnomrnon of the anonymous trolls that target Topix.com Forums is well defined, as this post made earlier elsewhere today explains, defined by no less than the New York Times.

The "problem and animosity" seems to be a widespread problem with anonymous trolls such as you and others, hiding behind fake names and posting lies and smears against people.

Unfortunately for you, I fight back and correct your lies and misrepresentations about me... and label you for the trash you are. Truth hurts, eh?

The fact is that I'm just a real person posting here, while anonymous trolls such as you whatever fake name you're hiding behind today, create these threads apparently from some obsessed agenda they have to attempt to smear my name, libel, and otherwise misrepresent me. And from further reading, it appears to be a sort of Topix.com phenomenon that some don't seem to be able to deal with as well as I have.

For example:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/us/small-to...

"...a social media Web site called Topix, where they write and read startlingly negative posts, all cloaked in anonymity, about one another. And in Dee’s Place, people are not happy... called Topix a 'cesspool of character assassination.'[...] In rural America, older, poorer remote population lagged the rest of the country in embracing the Internet, the growing use of social media is raising familiar concerns about bullying and privacy... hubs of unsubstantiated gossip, stirring widespread resentment in communities where ties run deep, memories run long and anonymity is a novel concept.'Something about rural culture seems to make people want to have conversations in public,' Topix, a site lightly trafficked in cities, enjoys a dedicated and growing following across the Ozarks, Appalachia and much of the rural South, establishing an unexpected niche in communities of a few hundred or few thousand people..."

And, of course, there's a difference between free speech and libel. The posts made here and elsewhere on Topix.com by the trolls you asked about generally tend to fall into the latter category.

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Music & poetry from Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1756 Jan 30, 2013
For those out there reading this who don't know me, a bit of introduction, and where you can find my writings out on the streets and in locations all around Columbus Georgia and Phenix City Alabama.

If you ask, "What has Will Dockery done?"...

Well, I've been writing for a newspaper, Playgrounds Magazine, for decades now.

And what have you done?

I've been writing a monthly column since 1998 (15 years?) and publishing poetry as often since 1995 in Playgrounds Magazine:

http://www.playgroundsmag.com

That's thousands of printed copies per month, every day of every month, for almost two decades... so
what have you done, my anonymous friend?

Where have you published, and please cite references and/or link to the publication?

Or snip this again while you evade the question... heh.

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Music & poetry of Will Dockery:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1758 Jan 30, 2013
Robin said it all wrote:
Robin said it all for us
"All of us" who, my anonymous friend... you and the voices in your head?

Yes, "Robin" added a little zing to the Forum for a little while.

Wonder when she'll come back?

--
Music & poetry from Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1759 Jan 30, 2013
Debbis Mitchell wrote:
These folks been trying to play music for years.
True... and what have you managed to do in those tears, my anonymous little friend?

Well, I've been writing seriously for about 40 years now... what have you written?

Here's a recent critique of my poetry, which later becomes song:

http://alt.zines.narkive.com/d7tyjJay/topical...

Will Dockery's New Poems

In style and temperment, Will Dockery's poetry is a little like that of
John Berryman - cf., The Dreamsongs. A basically sensitive but slightly
discombobulated awareness wending its way through hazes of intoxication; the
nieghborhood milieu. "..when I was staying/ at the boarding house/ across
from the park,/ I hated those bells/ and I hated that place./ At the same
time I loved it."

In essence the theme is search for self.

Now, self, in the way in which a poet like Will Dockery understands it, is
essentially a myth; in other words, a kind of story in which self is
revealed and delinated to itself. In fact self cannot appear except through
the mediation of external places and people. But the important thing is that
these must be interpreted as having transcendental implications which might
not be apparent at the level of quotidean experience. So this is what is
meant by the poet entering his neighborhood or social milieu in search of
self.
Myth of origin [how self first learns to recognize itself]; golden age,
debacle. These are some of the typical mythic components in life.

To keep
this on a simple, general level. Of course much subtler comprehensions are
also possible. For example, a typical mythification involves a division of
life into periods. When I lived on such-and-such street, life had a certain
quality; I had these experiences, was aquainted with these people, et
cetera. Then I moved somewhere else and it wasn't the same; a period of life
came to an end. Thus life may be seen as a succession of /periods/ of
greater or shorter duration; each more or less distinguished by objective
referents [dates, addresses, names of people], each revealing distinctive
mythological demensions as well.

In To The Magic Store the poet is viewing such a period retrospectively. It
is a Proustian /rememberance of things past/ in a way; things are remembered
together with their psychological associations, producing a sensation of
mythological awareness.[It is not necessary to spell it out with elaborate
detail. The point is simply to intuit how a set of associated names and
images creates the effect of milieu or era.]

Viewed retrospectively, there is of course an emphasis on dissolution. People drift away, some die, and eventually the milieu dissolves.

The tone
of the book is predominantly one of loss and mourning. In one case the poet
later revisits one of his main friends - the "speed junkie" musician
Hugo - and finds "he'd been burned in a terrible disaster,/ in a wheelchair
and speechless."
With its emphasis on the downside of the cycle, To The Magic Store
corresponds [mythically speaking] with a decline and fall - maybe not of a
/golden age/, since more or less there is only one full-blown golden age in
a lifetime, but of some lesser epicycle which never the less exhibits
analogous phases of flourishing and decline.

Curiously enough, there is no "magic store" explicitly mentioned in this
book. Given the preoccupation with loss and mortality, a suitable title
might have been To The Cemetery. Indeed, the climactic verses tell of taking
a girl to a graveyard - "to see the grave of the guy who died./ We sat
there in this graveyard park,/ with a six-pack of beer./ he looked fragile/
as she drunkenly cried./ She looked open/ to my sensibility..."

(Continued next post due to length)

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Gone Too Far / Dockery-Mallard-Snipe:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1760 Jan 30, 2013
Yes, I've been creating art, music and poetry for over 30 years... and am quite rightfully proud of my body of work.

Here's one of the hundreds of poem-songs I've created, one of the most recent and a favorite, as it came from the influence and aftermath of the art and music festival Doo-Nanny.

Where I literally left a piece of my heart, and someday hope to reclaim it:

Over You / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars
http://youtu.be/4rvCp_xzWH8

"Over You" written by Will Dockery, Brian Mallard & Jack Snipe.© 2012
Over You
"Sitting by the porthole, you're on my mind. Hearing the waves crash, storm outside, out of sight, out of time. Sailing through these memories, should have seen the signs. Dragon pulling me back, three ring circus of reason and rhyme. Over you, just me getting over you. Over you, as we see our way through. You been down to the bottom baby. Hey, I've been there too. Once thought those who'd suffered together could see it all the way through. But you gave up trying baby, and I guess I gave up too. None of the King's Mojo or all your charms could hold up this tattered rendezvous. Over you, just me getting over you. Over you, as we see our way through. Sometimes when I had it, I treated it like dirt. Overlooked the finer points of why the whole thing worked. But you know I don't want sympathy and neither of us plan to die. None of us know the answers and we don't even want to hear the questions why. Over you, just me getting over you. Over you, as we see our way through... yeah." -Will Dockery ©2012 (Music with Brian Mallard & Jack Snipe)

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Music & poetry from Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1762 Jan 30, 2013
Boycotting wrote:
Spread the word that Doonanny and Hogbottom are both being boycotted. It'll be hilarious with all those old wash outs sitting at their ticket table with their rubber hand stamp and thirty five cents left. All the cool people are boycotting. The economy is bad. Don't pay ten cents much less ten dollars to wander out in that gnat infested cow pasture.
That could be interesting, see what you can do, and don't neglect North Carolina, Texas and New York City, among the places the largers number of visitors hail from at Doo-Nanny... these festivals have always been more recognized by folks in other areas than the locals, anyhow.

Meanwhile, here's something you won't boycott, because you know you can't help but watch... video archives of the Columbus-Phenix City music scene, one loaded with talented singers, songwriters, musicians and performers.

Here's three of those, for example... I challenge you to try and call their creative works and original songs excellent without making yourself a liar.

As I posted earlier, which I note you've pretended not to see...
Here are some individual examples of local singer-songwriters who, in my opinion, are creating some quality work, and put on a great performance, and very legitimate musicians:

Riley Yielding:
http://www.youtube.com/user/RusticViewer07/vi...

Bibb City Ramblers:
http://www.youtube.com/user/RusticViewer07/vi...

Fiddlers Blues Band:
http://www.youtube.com/user/RusticViewer07/vi...

The above performers in the Columbus-Phenix City music scene are great examples of why this poll is bogus... there's a wealth of talent in the Chattahoochee Valley.

Heck, you might even manage to list a couple someday... heh.

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"Over You" / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_132...

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1763 Jan 30, 2013
Real Critique...

(Continued from last post)

http://alt.zines.narkive.com/d7tyjJay/topical...

Will Dockery's New Poems

But then, as the poem concludes:
I can still remember
her laughing at my poetry
didn't feel so good to me
after I'd been up all night
pouring out my feelings.
I thought she was interesting,
she turned out
she was just a little female fool.
Was not able to put all the
components
of my life in place...
my mythology was incomplete.

But the title might have a different and more Proustian meaning. The
mythology of self, unfulfilled in initial experience [where to be sure such
mythologies inevitably represent inconclusive aspirations], might be
prolonged through acts of memory; where by poetic ''magic'' they may be
perfected and ternalized - notwithstanding their preliminary frustration in
mere circumstances.

Perhaps this might shed some light on the mystic quality of a poem like The
Ballad of James Collier. A line like ''I hope some of them are left'' is
perhaps best taken at face value, that is, in its natural sense. Other parts
of the poem allude to ghostly reunions - perhaps in some transcendental
world where the past continues as a permanent reality -''In tiny
detail.''-Rick Howe, January 1 1993

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Gone Too Far / Dockery-Mallard-Snipe:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1765 Jan 30, 2013
Those three wrote:
Those three humour you being polite until you crawl away. Those three groups do not consider themselves part of YOUR SCENE. There are musicians and then those that tolerate or marginally hang out with you. Sometimes you show up and all applaud once the word is given HE LEFT! HURRRRAH! They all exclaim. There is local music. Then there is you and your springling of associates.
As the late great Poet Teacher Dennis M. Hammes said:

"Try to have your attempts at cryptic insult make sense."

For instance who are these "We Three" you mention? I know the Patti Smith and Lou Reed references here but are you relating that iconic scene to our present day milieu?

--
Music & poetry from Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
Druid Hills Commando

Mcdonough, GA

#1766 Jan 31, 2013
Amazing the number of votes this poll is getting.
I done the broad street thing down in Columbus and will say there are quite a few "posers" there.
I guess you call them open mic performers, I have never heard one that was more than mediocre.
Here some good profession musicians in Columbus though. Too bad they don't post on Topix here.

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1768 Jan 31, 2013
Druid Hills Commando wrote:
I done the broad street thing down in Columbus and will say there are quite a few
Yes, there's quite a variety of great musicians and performers on Broadway in Columbus, Georgia.

Here are some individual examples of local singer-songwriters who, in my opinion, are creating some quality work, and put on a great performance, and can be found on and around Broadway:

Riley Yielding:
http://www.youtube.com/user/RusticViewer07/vi...

Bibb City Ramblers:
http://www.youtube.com/user/RusticViewer07/vi...

Fiddlers Blues Band:
http://www.youtube.com/user/RusticViewer07/vi...

The above performers in the Columbus-Phenix City music scene are great examples of why this poll is bogus... there's a wealth of talent in the Chattahoochee Valley.

Thanks for dropping by, Commando, and have a nice day.

--
Ashes To Justice / Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1769 Jan 31, 2013
His latest poem wrote:
"She's just a little female fool". I guess he is not happpy with abusing women in TRUCK STOP WOMAN now he has to belittle them.
Female degredation. SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF album cover style.
Thanks for reading, listening and commenting, oh anonymous one.

And on the subject of "females", here's a collaboration/duet with the best female singer-songwriter in the Columbus-Phenix City music scene today, in my opinion, Sandy Madaris.

Thanks for dropping by for your morning whine, and have a nice day.

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Ashes To Justice / Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris

http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1770 Jan 31, 2013
Druid Hills Commando wrote:
I would agree that when Will uses Topix to "share" his or his friends music or musical event he is setting himself up. Maybe not because the quality of the musicians but because Topix is not really the place for that, most people get on here to complain about whatever and to attack that which they hate.
I could start a post about some new movie I watched and liked and 9 out of 10 would say they hated it and I'm a idiot for posting, that's just the way it is.
Will, you seem like a nice guy but you are unrealistic if you think you can post what you do and get nice replies
You sure got that right, Commando!

Thanks for dropping by, and have a nice day.

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Ashes To Justice / Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris

http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...
Druid Hills Commando

Mcdonough, GA

#1771 Jan 31, 2013
Thanks for responding to my post and I hope that clears up your confusion and misconceptions about the Columbus Music Scene.

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$DooNanny$- Protest Festival Greed-$DooNanny$

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1773 Jan 31, 2013
Druid Hills Commando wrote:
Thanks for responding to my post
And thanks for responding to mine as well, Commando!

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Ashes To Justice / Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1774 Jan 31, 2013
Druid Hills Commando wrote:
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$DooNanny$- Protest Festival Greed-$Doo-Nanny$
Here's the NYT article, so Doo-Nanny protesters can contact them:

Ten dollars for three days of entertainment and you complain?

Have you seen the prices of movies, concerts, anything thse days?

And that's something that may have elluded you... Doo-Nanny is being written up in places like the New York Times now, hardy just a "small social event" at this point, and in fact was a world class art and music event years ago:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/08/garden/08do...

"...LIKE a medieval village, Butch Anthony’s 80-acre family compound is a self-contained universe, and every inch of it is an expression of his prodigious creative spirit. It makes a tempting destination for folk art aficionados, as well as the sort of art world tourists who’ve already ticked Marfa, Tex., or Joshua Tree, in the California desert, off their lists. Mr. Anthony, a lanky and laconic 46-year-old who dresses exclusively in Liberty denim overalls (he owns 25 pairs) and a battered straw hat (he has 10), is a self-taught artist, builder and local hero, whom the state of Alabama once chose to make a Christmas tree ornament for the White House — the Bush 43 version. He is also the host of the Doo Nanny..."

"...Like Burning Man, the extreme art fair held each summer in the Nevada desert, the Doo Nanny offers both a burning effigy and an exercise in creative camping. Mr. Anthony has thoughtfully provided a tepee, an outdoor kitchen, a solar-powered shower, outhouses and a wood-fueled hot tub, all built from and decorated with the sort of handmade trash-into-art pieces — ethereal chandeliers pieced together with cow bones and twigs gnawed by beavers — that are his specialty. It now attracts an intrepid crowd of makers and their fans who gather on the last weekend in March not only to show their work — and sell some, too, if they’re lucky — but to hang out with like-minded friends and partake of Mr. Anthony’s particular brand of Southern hospitality, which is certainly as homespun and country as his accent, but has an impish, renegade backbeat. It is also a chance to see Mr. Anthony on his own, very atmospheric, turf."

No, Doo-Nanny isn't for eveyone... but who would /want/ it to be?

And of course the $$$ will go to the organizers... most likey to Butch Anthony, who owns the farm Doo-Nanny takes place on.

I think this notion that Doo-Nanny should remain "free" is a bit silly, and I wager most other folks will, as well.

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Ashes To Justice / Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1776 Jan 31, 2013
Riley Bibb Fiddlers Fool wrote:
Cryptic. Riley, Bibb, Fiddlers fool. Your paranoid mind is flairing up. Ease back onto your meds. Breath slow. Relax. You are gonna be alright.You are safe. Lay on your pillow. Slow the rocking back and forth now. Calm calm. Dr. Martingo said to tell you SLOW BREATHING, slow breathing.
And repeat the mantra...

"I know it's only rock-and-roll but I like it, like it, yes I do!"

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Ashes To Justice / Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...

“Shadowville All-Stars”

Since: Dec 08

Columbus, GA

#1777 Jan 31, 2013
Columbus music scene wrote:
<quoted text>

Here are some individual examples of local singer-songwriters who, in my opinion, are creating some quality work, and put on a great performance, and very legitimate musicians:

Riley Yielding:

http://www.youtube.com/user/RusticViewer07/vi...
Riley Yielding also contributed superb trumpet sections to my "Shadowville Speedway" CD album. Here's a sampling of one of those...

Here's a song I collaborated with The Conley Brothers on, and wish I'd been there to sing it for ya'll Saturday night... maybe next time.

Special kudos to Riley Yielding for playing the trumpet on this one, and Doug Conley for his splendid clarinet.

http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery/song/...

Shadowville Speedway

In a taxi watching a sporting house
Beside a Linwood vacant lot
Silverdollar moon portspotting
Constellation like a sailor's knot.

The sky was black, ink and glitter in the night
Train whine saxophone out beyond the light.
I'm in love with a ghost blue turns to grey
Put a pyramid on my head to take my pain away.

Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Riding slow down a one way street.

Brown Reculse magic drifting around the shed
Someone has it in for me I must not lose my head
Moving with the speedo life several with me left behind
Burned too many bridges defragmented my time.

Somewhere in time I've seen all this before
In a magazine or a dream of a distant war.
Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Riding slow down a one way street.

Manifested destiny a manifesto and a part
All the actors still agree that ever had a heart.
Hazel knew the karma, she kept it in a bottle
Black tooth mojo marked index cards
Bundles over the side of Dillingham Bridge
Splashing as ripples reflect from the stars.

Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Riding slow down a one way street
Shadowville, Shadowville Speedway
Don't look back, don't admit defeat.

-Will Dockery & Henry Conley

Read more: http://artists.letssingit.com/will-dockery-an...
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Copyright Information at Library of Congress
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Shadowville speedway.
Type of Work: Entry Not Found Registration Number / Date: PAu003501816 / 2008-09-23 Application Title: Shadowville speedway. Title: Shadowville speedway. Description: Compact disc + Print material. Copyright Claimant: Will Dockery, 1958-. Address: P O BOX 7394, Columbus, Georgia, 31908. Date of Creation: 2008 Authorship on Application: Will Dockery, 1958- ; Citizenship: United States. Authorship: collaboration of words and music.

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Music & poetry from Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery

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