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Ganesha Girl on Rankin by Will Dockery
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/gane... 'Twas a very good year... |
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“Shadowville All-Stars” Since: Dec 08
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Thanks for having a read and favorable response. I have in the archives some discussions on this poem, rather than repeat all that I'll repost, and see what direction that leads your questions to. -- Music & poetry from Will Dockery & Friends: http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery |
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Well I reckon I'll take that as a good critique, at least with some thought behind it, althouh Billy might not dig it so well. Here's my newest: http://www.last.fm/music/Will+Dockery/Will+Do... |
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Judged: 1 1 1 No, Haiku is a shorter form of poetry. -- Music & poetry from Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars: http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery |
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Judged: 1 1 1 Look it up... Here's one of Jack Kerouac's definition/explanations on Haiku & poetry: http://alt.books.beatgeneration.narkive.com/T... ==========Begin quoted text]========= INTERVIEWER You have said that haiku is not written spontaneously but is reworked and revised. Is this true of all your poetry? Why must the method for writing poetry differ from that of prose? KEROUAC No, first; haiku is best reworked and revised. I know, I tried. It has to be completely economical, no foliage and flowers and language rhythm, it has to be a simple little picture in three little lines. At least that's the way the old masters did it, spending months on three little lines and coming up, say, with: In the abandoned boat, The hail Bounces about. That's Shiki. But as for my regular English verse, I knocked it off fast like the prose, using, get this, the size of the notebook page for the form and length of the poem, just as a musician has to get out, a jazz musician, his statement within a certain number of bars, within one chorus, which spills over into the next, but he has to stop where the chorus page stops. And finally, too, in poetry you can be completely free to say anything you want, you don't have to tell a story, you can use secret puns, that's why I always say, when writing prose, "No time for poetry now, get your plain tale." [Drinks are served.] INTERVIEWER How do you write haiku? KEROUAC Haiku? You want to hear haiku? You see you got to compress into three short lines a great big story. First you start with a haiku situation-so you see a leaf, as I told her the other night, falling on the back of a sparrow during a great big October wind storm. A big leaf falls on the back of a little sparrow. How you going to compress that into three lines? Now in Japanese you got to compress it into seventeen syllables. We don't have to do that in American-or English-because we don't have the same syllabic bullshit that your Japanese language has. So you say: "Little sparrow"-you don't have to say little-everybody knows a sparrow is little because they fall so you say" Sparrow with big leaf on its back- windstorm No good, don't work, I reject it. A little sparrow when an autumn leaf suddenly sticks to its back from the wind. Hah, that does it. No, it's a little bit too long. See? It's already a little bit too long, Berrigan, you know what I mean? INTERVIEWER Seems like there's an extra word or something, like when. How about leaving out when? Say: A sparrow an autumn leaf suddenly sticks to its back- from the wind! KEROUAC Hey, that's all right. I think when was the extra word. You got the right idea there, O'Hara! "A sparrow, an autumn leaf suddenly"-we don't have to say suddenly do we? A sparrow an autumn leaf sticks to its back- from the wind! [Kerouac writes final version into a spiral notebook.] INTERVIEWER Suddenly is absolutely the kind of word we don't need there. When you publish that will you give me a footnote saying you asked me a couple of questions? KEROUAC [writes] Berrigan noticed. Right? INTERVIEWER Do you write poetry very much? Do you write other poetry besides haiku? KEROUAC It's hard to write haiku. I write long silly Indian poems. You want to hear my long silly Indian poem? INTERVIEWER What kind of Indian? KEROUAC Iroquois. As you know from looking at me.[Reads from notebook.] On the lawn on the way to the store forty-four years old for the neighbors to hear hey, looka, Ma I hurt myself. Especially with that squirt. What's that mean? ==========End quoted text]========= -- Music & poetry from Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars: http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery |
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Judged: 1 1 1 Heh... I thought you thought they did "She Sleeps Tight", now this one? She Sleeps Tight by Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars: http://youtu.be/9uGY157cpiU Do you have a link to this alleged Auburn band online? They seem interesting. |
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Nah... Billy Winn is a great writer. Your jealousy is unbecoming. -- Music & poetry from Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars: http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery |
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