mapleman

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#19010 Jun 9, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Please. The only people that believe all that nonsense are those with weak minds. The Democrats say--the followers do. If Democrats say Republicans are racist, then damn it, Republicans are racist. If Democrats say Republicans are stupid, then damn it, Republicans are stupid. Sheep are really unbelievable at times. They don't even realize how they're being brainwashed.
It's not the minorities alone who tilt the big cities towards Democrats, it's lower income white areas too like the west side of Cleveland. Oh, but unlike Republicans, they vote for their own self-interest. So why is Michael Moore a staunch Democrat? What about Warren Buffet, the late Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Oprah, Howard Stern and most all of Hollywood? They all know Democrats are out to get their money.
Now the difference between people coming here from other countries to better themselves and Democrat voters is that foreigners of yesteryear benefited at the expense of nobody but themselves. Democrat voters benefit at the expense of others. Big difference.
You are correct on one thing, and that is corporations don't care about American citizens. They care about producing products or services for profit. On the other hand, Democrat politicians don't care about American people either. That's why they are letting this country slide into debt our grandchildren can never repay.
The bible belt states are comprised of mostly low-income whites. People tricked into voting against their own best interests. At least low-income whites in the big cities vote for what's best for them. They vote like corporations. Only idealistic fools vote country over themselves.

If a rich person votes against his/her financial best interests, he/she will still be rich. Stern, Moore, Buffet, Jobs, Gates, and so forth have enough money to last generations. They can afford to be idealistic. Working-class stiffs can't do the same. It's just dumb.

People who are worried about the future of their children need to teach their children that this is a global economy. Learn skills that will make you employable anywhere. Don't limit yourself to one geographical location. If a city or state goes bad, you move. Same with a country.

All I see is bitterness in the Republican party. Most Americans aren't affluent, so you have a lot of Republicans voting against their best financial interests. The same people worried about what people on food stamps are putting in their carts. If you can afford to eat steak every single day, you don't worry about what people on food stamps fill their carts with. LOL I know I don't. It's bitterness. The government is going to waste my money one way or another. If they ended all the entitlements tomorrow, they'd just waste my money on something else.

Some of you guys are like gang bangers. Draped in the colors of your flag. For what? What is that going to get you? You guys better start treating yourself as if you were corporations. Look out for number one. Life would be better. You'd be a lot less bitter. What's the difference between Republicans who can't afford to take a trip out of the country whenever they want and gangbangers in the hood who are basically in the same position? Both are fools who are more worried about the "set"(in your case the country) than themselves.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19011 Jun 9, 2013
Gainesville Georgia is just a county seat town in north georgia.(Hall county)Its moniker is the Poultry Capital of the World. The median household income there is $113, 000. Google it.
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The Bible Belt isn't all low income ;-)
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I hear slowhio has more people on the dole than they do with a job now.
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So I assume there's a lot of towns in ohio looking like Sugar Ditch mississippi.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#19012 Jun 9, 2013
UdintBuildThat wrote:
Gainesville Georgia is just a county seat town in north georgia.(Hall county)Its moniker is the Poultry Capital of the World. The median household income there is $113, 000. Google it.
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The Bible Belt isn't all low income ;-)
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I hear slowhio has more people on the dole than they do with a job now.
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So I assume there's a lot of towns in ohio looking like Sugar Ditch mississippi.
We already know that Ohio is one of the 11 states where there is more takers(Welfare Recipients) than givers(Workers paying taxes)

Ga. State study: Welfare programs discourage work, marriage

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/morning_ca...

Click link below to read the Ga. State study(PDF).

http://aysps.gsu.edu/sites/default/files/docu...
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19013 Jun 9, 2013
mapleman wrote:
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The bible belt states are comprised of mostly low-income whites. People tricked into voting against their own best interests. At least low-income whites in the big cities vote for what's best for them. They vote like corporations. Only idealistic fools vote country over themselves.
If a rich person votes against his/her financial best interests, he/she will still be rich. Stern, Moore, Buffet, Jobs, Gates, and so forth have enough money to last generations. They can afford to be idealistic. Working-class stiffs can't do the same. It's just dumb.
People who are worried about the future of their children need to teach their children that this is a global economy. Learn skills that will make you employable anywhere. Don't limit yourself to one geographical location. If a city or state goes bad, you move. Same with a country.
All I see is bitterness in the Republican party. Most Americans aren't affluent, so you have a lot of Republicans voting against their best financial interests. The same people worried about what people on food stamps are putting in their carts. If you can afford to eat steak every single day, you don't worry about what people on food stamps fill their carts with. LOL I know I don't. It's bitterness. The government is going to waste my money one way or another. If they ended all the entitlements tomorrow, they'd just waste my money on something else.
Some of you guys are like gang bangers. Draped in the colors of your flag. For what? What is that going to get you? You guys better start treating yourself as if you were corporations. Look out for number one. Life would be better. You'd be a lot less bitter. What's the difference between Republicans who can't afford to take a trip out of the country whenever they want and gangbangers in the hood who are basically in the same position? Both are fools who are more worried about the "set"(in your case the country) than themselves.
Back to voting against your self-interest, huh? Well is the US Constitution against my self-inerest? Owning and being able to carry my firearm against my self-interest? Attracting or keeping companies in the US so we have jobs against my self-interest? Viewing all Americans as just Americans and not by race, gender, wealth or sexual persuasion against my self-interests?

We've all seen countries that vote in their self-interest, particularly in Europe. That's the path we don't need to take. You talk about corporations being greedy, and in the same breath, say that there is nothing wrong with greed by the individual.

Oh, but the answer is to just be ready to move. Desert your neighbors, friends and relatives. Well that's the definition of white flight, and look at those areas today.

After a while, there will be no place to move. There was never a war won by people running away. You stay and fight for what you believe in.

As for social programs, your damn right it is my business what people are putting in their shopping cart when I'm paying for it. The difference between industry and the poor is if all the poor moved out of the country, we would be better off. If all industry moved out of the country, the country collapses.
Pops

Newport, KY

#19014 Jun 9, 2013
mapleman wrote:
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The bible belt states are comprised of mostly low-income whites. People tricked into voting against their own best interests. At least low-income whites in the big cities vote for what's best for them. They vote like corporations. Only idealistic fools vote country over themselves.
YOU contradict yourself. Isn't what is best for the country what is best for oneself?
WE do NOT live on this planet alone. WE MUST interact & depend on each other, not just oneself.
WE must consider those that make our medicines, automobiles, refine oil, raise chickens, make shoes, lay bricks, garden etc etc. Especially since NOT one of us can perform all of those functions and more.
Although Idealism is not realistic, voting for Idealism can be pragmatic. Your Marxism is showing. Possibly you are even an Anarchist.
LorenEberly

Mansfield, OH

#19015 Jun 9, 2013
Small Business Loans:

USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit and pay bank interest on the cost of building, maintaining, and operating their business; with investment profit marketed in the wholesale and retail price of their product and service.

The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; elect Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That hold Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
mapleman

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#19016 Jun 10, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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Back to voting against your self-interest, huh? Well is the US Constitution against my self-inerest? Owning and being able to carry my firearm against my self-interest? Attracting or keeping companies in the US so we have jobs against my self-interest? Viewing all Americans as just Americans and not by race, gender, wealth or sexual persuasion against my self-interests?
We've all seen countries that vote in their self-interest, particularly in Europe. That's the path we don't need to take. You talk about corporations being greedy, and in the same breath, say that there is nothing wrong with greed by the individual.
Oh, but the answer is to just be ready to move. Desert your neighbors, friends and relatives. Well that's the definition of white flight, and look at those areas today.
After a while, there will be no place to move. There was never a war won by people running away. You stay and fight for what you believe in.
As for social programs, your damn right it is my business what people are putting in their shopping cart when I'm paying for it. The difference between industry and the poor is if all the poor moved out of the country, we would be better off. If all industry moved out of the country, the country collapses.
Move to Bay Village. You don't need a gun walking around out there. Keep a shotgun for home defense. Companies are leaving China for cheaper labor markets. Do you really think they will come back to the U.S.?

The Republican party is the home of racism and intolerance. Why do you think there is all the fuss about gay marriage? It's the home of whites worried about illegal immigrants taking their jobs. Illegal immigrants aren't doing any skilled labor. It's the legal immigrants who are more of a threat to skilled workers. But you can't tell that to mouth breathers.

Europe suffered from white flight to the U.S. and did just fine. People just go where things are going good and where they will have opportunity. That's life.

You ain't paying for none of that food. You don't make enough to pay for it. Stop acting as if you are in a millionaire tax bracket. LOL It's always the people who are a few steps from qualifying for the programs themselves who cry the loudest about paying for the programs. Hilarious.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19017 Jun 10, 2013
Companies aren't just moving to China. Maybe you could explain why high tech company Agilysis moved from Solon to Alpharetta GA?
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Democrats are the party of the KKK and George Wallace!
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Even Dick Cheneys girl is gay.
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Might ask Sweden how they are doing with that white flight, in case u haven't been keepin up the ragheads are rioting there because cops there wouldn't let one of their maniacs kill an innocent swed so now there's all hell to pay.
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Most conservatives are responsible enough to pay for their own food. Most are not millionaires.
mapleman

Amsterdam, Netherlands

#19018 Jun 10, 2013
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>YOU contradict yourself. Isn't what is best for the country what is best for oneself?
WE do NOT live on this planet alone. WE MUST interact & depend on each other, not just oneself.
WE must consider those that make our medicines, automobiles, refine oil, raise chickens, make shoes, lay bricks, garden etc etc. Especially since NOT one of us can perform all of those functions and more.
Although Idealism is not realistic, voting for Idealism can be pragmatic. Your Marxism is showing. Possibly you are even an Anarchist.
What is in the country's best interest? Does Haliburton care about the country's best interest? The company only seems to care about money it can make off war. What about the company's controlling private prisons? They want non-violent people arrested for drugs so they can make money. Is that good for America? What about the telecoms who pay politicians off so they can price gouge Americans? I could go on, but you get the picture. Corporations are voting the bottom line with little regard for America. Why should the SMART people be any different?

Farmers will vote for what is best for them, not America. Same with the auto companies. Same with pharma. Same with oil. Same with the Hispanics whose family members are in the U.S. illegally picking your food for cheap(do you want to pay $10 for a tomato).

There will always be fools. I know some people will always vote against their best interests. If those people didn't exist, democracy would be outlawed. We need fools. The problem is that a lot of the Republican base is too foolish. They need to smarten up just a little bit. It would just make things easier.

I'm not a Marxist. I just know the government is going to take my money regardless. Whether the government spends it on $500 toilet seats or food stamps, my money will be wasted. That's a given. That isn't going to change. I don't have to worry about what's going into other carts because I can eat steak and sushi every single day. The average mouth breather can't. If people want to limit their lives with government assistance, why should I care? It isn't driving down what I charge a company per hour for my services. It seems to only be people one step above assistance worried about those on assistance.

The U.S. has the most draconian tax policy on the planet. Even if all the "leeches" came off assistance forever, the draconian tax policy would still be in play. Our money would still be wasted.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19019 Jun 10, 2013
Haliburton creates a lot of high paying jobs for Americans.
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How many farmers do you think there are anymore? One farmer can plant 300 acres of corn in a day now.
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Why have democrats so completely dumbed down gubment schools? Cuz smart kids would never vote for them.
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Here's a quote from a VERY PROMINENT democrat who let the truth slip out:
“Ideologies aren't all that important. What's important is psychology.
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The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That's why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.
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Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don't have a clue as to political reality.What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want.
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The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn't have a clue than there were Republicans.
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Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you're smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That's why I'm a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.”&#8213; James Carville
LorenEberly

Andover, OH

#19020 Jun 10, 2013
Nonunion Truck Brokers and Drivers:

Nonunion Truck Brokers and Drivers, workers, consumers, and taxpayers elect Obnoxious President, Vice President, and Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That supports Nonunion Truck Brokers and Drivers defying demands of USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demanding USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.

Demands Nonunion Truck Brokers and Drivers and every Business Owner and their Stockholders, corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), healthcare, pension, investment and independent business profit.

This enables union Truck Brokers and Drivers, every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.

And holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, Nonunion Truck Brokers and Drivers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Fund Nonunion Truck Brokers, consumers, and taxpayers, paying sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly in the cost of diesel fuel and gasoline. And In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. And pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
LorenEberly

Andover, OH

#19021 Jun 10, 2013
No Market for More Natural Gas:

Using the weight of water falling over Niagara Falls, off mountains, and over dams to power hydro generators to generate green electricity eliminates need for natural gas to generate electricity.

Is not supported by The majority of Us the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; that elect and reelect Obnoxious President, Vice President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.

That holds Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Representatives deny Collective Bargaining Rights accountable.

To fund Illegal drug users and Illegal Immigrants, lottery, casino, and keno losers, unemployed Union workers replaced with nonunion workers, Human Traffickers, waitresses that pander for life for $2.00 per hour, slaves in tax abated enterprise zones, low-income child labor, consumers, and taxpayers, volunteers without wages, and nonunion workers willing to work for fewer wages than they can afford life. That pays for electricity, natural gas, oil, and coal; with welfare checks, food stamps, housing vouchers, and Medicaid.

Pay income tax, social security tax, and road tax Amish evade paying 10% of their income derived from wages, Ponzi credit certificates, and independent business profit to nonprofit, tax exempt, Amish Church.

Pay for all stimulus packages, tax abatements, tax incentives, tax refunds, tax credit, and tax exemptions.

Pay sales tax on the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of electricity, natural gas, coal, oil, gasoline, and every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. Vendors collect without compensation. That gets only product or service.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this UNAFFORDABLE economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest, burn in internal combustion engines, or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into natural gas pipeline Stockholders, OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders portfolios.

Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old.

America’s grandchildren’s children cannot pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#19022 Jun 10, 2013
Oh no!

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19023 Jun 10, 2013
As much as Loren sucks its no wonder they put up all them windmills in west central ohio.
Pops

Newport, KY

#19024 Jun 10, 2013
mapleman wrote:
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What is in the country's best interest? Does Haliburton care about the country's best interest? The company only seems to care about money it can make off war. What about the company's controlling private prisons? They want non-violent people arrested for drugs so they can make money. Is that good for America? What about the telecoms who pay politicians off so they can price gouge Americans? I could go on, but you get the picture. Corporations are voting the bottom line with little regard for America. Why should the SMART people be any different?
Typical of someone that has no valid point(s) to discuss, change the subject. The topic that you mentioned & that I responded to was people voting. You somehow think that interjecting Haliburton, which as a company is NOT a voting entity that can go to the polling place. No logic there
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#19025 Jun 10, 2013
mapleman wrote:
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Move to Bay Village. You don't need a gun walking around out there. Keep a shotgun for home defense. Companies are leaving China for cheaper labor markets. Do you really think they will come back to the U.S.?
The Republican party is the home of racism and intolerance. Why do you think there is all the fuss about gay marriage? It's the home of whites worried about illegal immigrants taking their jobs. Illegal immigrants aren't doing any skilled labor. It's the legal immigrants who are more of a threat to skilled workers. But you can't tell that to mouth breathers.
Europe suffered from white flight to the U.S. and did just fine. People just go where things are going good and where they will have opportunity. That's life.
You ain't paying for none of that food. You don't make enough to pay for it. Stop acting as if you are in a millionaire tax bracket. LOL It's always the people who are a few steps from qualifying for the programs themselves who cry the loudest about paying for the programs. Hilarious.
11 million (or more) illegals are not all doing unskilled labor. Remember that I'm a truck driver, and I see these people driving trucks all the time. I don't know if they live here, but they are working here which does bring down American wages.

This is besides the fact that if American employers can't get Americans to work for the money they offer, they would be forced to offer more to attract workers. They don't have to now because of these illegals. If these illegals were not here and companies were forced to increase their pay rate, then perhaps that might open up more jobs for Americans. And don't be so concerned about whites. The black unemployment rate is nearly twice as high as the national average and yes, many of those jobs are lower wage jobs that the illegals are cutting into. But you know how blacks always vote Democrat which goes against their best interest.

If you pay income tax (which I do) you are paying for these social programs. If you are an American of any income, your country is going into debt because of these social programs which eventually all will have to pay. If you are an American of any income, remember that these politicians are borrowing your Social Security money to pay for them, and that means less for you when you need it.
BOOTH

Torrance, CA

#19026 Jun 10, 2013
Election. Sucked
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#19027 Jun 11, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
11 million (or more) illegals are not all doing unskilled labor. Remember that I'm a truck driver, and I see these people driving trucks all the time. I don't know if they live here, but they are working here which does bring down American wages.
This is besides the fact that if American employers can't get Americans to work for the money they offer, they would be forced to offer more to attract workers. They don't have to now because of these illegals. If these illegals were not here and companies were forced to increase their pay rate, then perhaps that might open up more jobs for Americans. And don't be so concerned about whites. The black unemployment rate is nearly twice as high as the national average and yes, many of those jobs are lower wage jobs that the illegals are cutting into. But you know how blacks always vote Democrat which goes against their best interest.
If you pay income tax (which I do) you are paying for these social programs. If you are an American of any income, your country is going into debt because of these social programs which eventually all will have to pay. If you are an American of any income, remember that these politicians are borrowing your Social Security money to pay for them, and that means less for you when you need it.
Hypocrite much? You cry about the unions and now you're crying about wages.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#19028 Jun 11, 2013
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>Hypocrite much? You cry about the unions and now you're crying about wages.
your myopia is astounding. Opening your eyes helps.
mapleman

Rosendaal, Netherlands

#19029 Jun 11, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
11 million (or more) illegals are not all doing unskilled labor. Remember that I'm a truck driver, and I see these people driving trucks all the time. I don't know if they live here, but they are working here which does bring down American wages.
This is besides the fact that if American employers can't get Americans to work for the money they offer, they would be forced to offer more to attract workers. They don't have to now because of these illegals. If these illegals were not here and companies were forced to increase their pay rate, then perhaps that might open up more jobs for Americans. And don't be so concerned about whites. The black unemployment rate is nearly twice as high as the national average and yes, many of those jobs are lower wage jobs that the illegals are cutting into. But you know how blacks always vote Democrat which goes against their best interest.
If you pay income tax (which I do) you are paying for these social programs. If you are an American of any income, your country is going into debt because of these social programs which eventually all will have to pay. If you are an American of any income, remember that these politicians are borrowing your Social Security money to pay for them, and that means less for you when you need it.
Again, illegals do unskilled jobs. The engineers and IT guys are here legally. Legal immigrants on Visas are taking skilled jobs. Skilled workers are not endangered by illegals. In fact, the rich(Republicans) actually want illegals here because they know it's not worth paying unskilled laborers living wages. Just pay illegals.

People will be paying for that Iraq cluster f@ck for years. They pay for the bloated military budget of the U.S. They pay for all the people being made unemployable by the prison industrial complex. We will have our money wasted one way or another. That isn't going to change. One of the first things the forefathers of the U.S. did when they got in charge was start taxing people to death. They didn't like it when it was done to them, but they made people bootleggers trying to get tax money. It's been going downhill since day one. If you notice, it's only got worse through the centuries. It hasn't got any better since the 1700s. More take. More waste. Such is the nature of government. Eliminate social programs tomorrow, and they are still going to f@ck you.

If I take money from you, who cares if I shred it or burn it. In either case, I'm wasting it. That's what you don't realize. You are never going to get your money's worth. It's gone.

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