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d pantaloni

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Jul 5, 2014
 
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Actually, if it was a First Amendment case, Hobby Lobby would have lost. The Court held that the RFRA provides more protection than the First Amendment does.
Yeah. Because the constitution says absolutely nothing about religious freedom like the statute you cite. Sure.
Pope Che Reagan Christ

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#31080
Jul 5, 2014
 
d pantaloni wrote:
<quoted text> That they dont want to open that can of worms because they would have to spend years declaring thousands of statutes unconstitutional?
It's more simple than that. It's just that they decided the case based on the statute and not the constitution.
Pope Che Reagan Christ

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#31081
Jul 5, 2014
 
d pantaloni wrote:
which most of statute is..
That book of waterfall cartoons.
Pope Che Reagan Christ

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#31083
Jul 5, 2014
 
d pantaloni wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah. Because the constitution says absolutely nothing about religious freedom like the statute you cite. Sure.
You really should stick to riding that garbage truck. The statute provides greater protection than First Amendment stare decisis does. Without the statute, Hobby Lobby loses.

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Jul 5, 2014
 
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
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Actually, if it was a First Amendment case, Hobby Lobby would have lost. The Court held that the RFRA provides more protection than the First Amendment does.
True because the RFRA is another means by the Federal Government to restrict the 1st Amendment too if the politicians want too because for years the Bill of Rights of the US Constitution did not pretain to the Citizens of the States only pretained to the Federal Government until the SCOTUS started using the 14th amendment to incorporate the Bill of Rights down to state level through a series of SCOTUS cases over the years.

Incorporation of the Bill of Rights

The incorporation of the Bill of Rights (or incorporation for short) is the process by which American courts have applied portions of the U.S. Bill of Rights to the states. Prior to 1925, the Bill of Rights was held only to apply to the federal government. Under the incorporation doctrine, most provisions of the Bill of Rights now also apply to the state and local governments.

Prior to the ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment and the development of the incorporation doctrine, the Supreme Court in 1833 held in Barron v. Baltimore that the Bill of Rights applied only to the federal, but not any state governments. Even years after the ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment, the Supreme Court in United States v. Cruikshank (1876) still held that the First and Second Amendment did not apply to state governments. However, beginning in the 1920s, a series of United States Supreme Court decisions interpreted the Fourteenth Amendment to "incorporate" most portions of the Bill of Rights, making these portions, for the first time, enforceable against the state governments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of...
Pops

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What's with Topix high lighting certain words & why?
xxxrayted

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Old Guy wrote:
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Thanks for a bit of education. Adding the sentence just before makes it even clearer: "The contraceptive mandate, as applied to closely held corporations, violates RFRA. Our decision on that statutory question makes it unnecessary to reach the First Amendment claim raised by Conestoga and the Hahns."
Which means it was null and void before even discussing the First Amendment. However, the SC wouldn't have even heard the case (concerning constitutional violations of religion) if they didn't think there was something that needed to be heard.

Think of it kind of like a baseball game. It's two outs and the game is tied. After the ball is hit, the home team scores the winning run. After a replay challenge is made, they discover that the guy running to second was thrown out before the relay to home which was questionable.

What difference does it make what happened at home? The game is still over so what's the point of reviewing the play at home base?

Either way, this is a point for the good guys. The United States Federal Government is not in charge of telling employers what kind of benefits they have to offer to their employees. Hell, the former Soviet Union probably didn't demand that of their employers.

Under the DumBama administration, our federal government has gotten too strong and too intrusive in our lives. Because if the courts ruled (under any provision) that government has that kind of power to micromanage our personal lives, then we would surly be in a state of tyranny.

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#31087
Jul 5, 2014
 
Pops wrote:
What's with Topix high lighting certain words & why?
It does on certain words which I seen that too.
xxxrayted

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#31088
Jul 5, 2014
 
Pops wrote:
What's with Topix high lighting certain words & why?
Advertisement. If you click on any of the hyperlinks, it will take you to an ad.

Did you just notice this now? Because at least on my computer, this has been going on since I've been on Topix which is several years.

Topix has way too much advertisement. That's why it takes minutes to load each page.
Pops

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#31090
Jul 5, 2014
 
xxxrayted wrote:
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Advertisement. If you click on any of the hyperlinks, it will take you to an ad.
Did you just notice this now? Because at least on my computer, this has been going on since I've been on Topix which is several years.
Topix has way too much advertisement. That's why it takes minutes to load each page.
Nah, I noticed this some time ago but basically ignored it for some time. But NOT years ago & I have been on Topix for some time too.
Now a new question, how in the helll can someone judge my initial post, "disagree, & nuts"?
Activity like that sometimes makes me wonder what the heck sort of people am I communicating with.
Maybe that indicates that I am clueless.(<:
Old Guy

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#31091
Jul 5, 2014
 
Pops wrote:
What's with Topix high lighting certain words & why?
It's a very annoying form of advertising. If you would like to avoid seeing it, install Adbock Plus. Works as an add-on to most popular browsers, and filters out stuff like that.

https://adblockplus.org
Old Guy

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#31092
Jul 5, 2014
 
Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Now a new question, how in the helll can someone judge my initial post, "disagree, & nuts"?
Activity like that sometimes makes me wonder what the heck sort of people am I communicating with.
Maybe that indicates that I am clueless.(<:
Remember in grade school, when kids would tease each other with sayings that made no sense? "You mother wears army boots" was a popular retort long ago. Some folks can't come up with a witty reply, but they can always punch that "nuts" button.
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Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Nah, I noticed this some time ago but basically ignored it for some time. But NOT years ago & I have been on Topix for some time too.
Now a new question, how in the helll can someone judge my initial post, "disagree, & nuts"?
Activity like that sometimes makes me wonder what the heck sort of people am I communicating with.
Maybe that indicates that I am clueless.(<:
Welcome to 2014, Pops.
Now if only you could figure out how to make your VCR stop flashing 12:00 all day long...
Pops

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Jul 5, 2014
 
half breed wrote:
<quoted text>Welcome to 2014, Pops.
Now if only you could figure out how to make your VCR stop flashing 12:00 all day long...
I figured that out last week. Is that good?
Pops

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Old Guy wrote:
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Remember in grade school, when kids would tease each other with sayings that made no sense? "You mother wears army boots" was a popular retort long ago. Some folks can't come up with a witty reply, but they can always punch that "nuts" button.
WOW! You are showing ur age make that statement & I am showing my age to understand.
phil coulsin

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Jul 6, 2014
 
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Jul 6, 2014
 
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Hobby Lobby

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#31098
Jul 6, 2014
 
Why do havenot people think their right to force certain others to pay for the havenot's stuff supercede certain others right to exist?
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Pops wrote:
<quoted text>Nah, I noticed this some time ago but basically ignored it for some time. But NOT years ago & I have been on Topix for some time too.
Now a new question, how in the helll can someone judge my initial post, "disagree, & nuts"?
Activity like that sometimes makes me wonder what the heck sort of people am I communicating with.
Maybe that indicates that I am clueless.(<:
Nah. This is a political room which means there are basically two sides here. It doesn't matter if you make a comment about politics or the weather, it's that you (on one side) made a comment period.

Then you have kids (like the posts above) that get on the computer and have nothing to do. So they start clicking buttons out of boredom.

This is nothing. I go to topics that have people with six, eight and ten or more judgements. The more people in the forum, the more of them you'll see.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

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Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>True because the RFRA is another means by the Federal Government to restrict the 1st Amendment too if the politicians want too because for years the Bill of Rights of the US Constitution did not pretain to the Citizens of the States only pretained to the Federal Government until the SCOTUS started using the 14th amendment to incorporate the Bill of Rights down to state level through a series of SCOTUS cases over the years.
Incorporation of the Bill of Rights
The incorporation of the Bill of Rights (or incorporation for short) is the process by which American courts have applied portions of the U.S. Bill of Rights to the states. Prior to 1925, the Bill of Rights was held only to apply to the federal government. Under the incorporation doctrine, most provisions of the Bill of Rights now also apply to the state and local governments.
Prior to the ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment and the development of the incorporation doctrine, the Supreme Court in 1833 held in Barron v. Baltimore that the Bill of Rights applied only to the federal, but not any state governments. Even years after the ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment, the Supreme Court in United States v. Cruikshank (1876) still held that the First and Second Amendment did not apply to state governments. However, beginning in the 1920s, a series of United States Supreme Court decisions interpreted the Fourteenth Amendment to "incorporate" most portions of the Bill of Rights, making these portions, for the first time, enforceable against the state governments.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_of...
You are so confused. Incorporation is long establish and was not at issue one little bit in the Hobby Lobby case. The RFRA was passed because Congress thought the SCOTUS First Amendment application was too conservative.

You should really set your agenda down for a little bit and look at this without it. When you stop trying to prove something you will be more open to learning.

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