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half-breed

Chillicothe, OH

#26902 Mar 13, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
But these are the type of games I would like to see eliminated. Elections should not be a game. I take elections seriously because who we elect takes our country in their direction. I'm sick of hearing about Democrats bussing people to the polls, going to nursing homes to get votes of people that don't even know their spouses name, and dragging homeless people off of park benches and bribe them to vote.
If people want to register to vote, it's a very simple process. I'm against luring people who have no interest in voting to register. During the first DumBama election, one of our drivers exited the highway and was met by a group of black thugs in Cleveland. They were bothering people to register to vote for DumBama, and were offering M&M candies for signatures. Of course it was illegal, but nobody really pursued the matter. This crap needs to be stopped.
I agree with you about "Operation Chaos" ... it shouldn't have been done. I think Limbaugh learned his lesson, though, and he stayed neutral throughout the 2012 primary season. He mentioned good and bad things about all of the republican candidates, and didn't dog any of them. It made him a lot more effective in supporting Romney, when the general election season started.

It's a sad commentary on the part of the democrats, that they have to recruit young, uneducated, uninterested people to vote. But it's very telling, too ... they wouldn't win, if they couldn't get idiots to vote for them.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#26903 Mar 13, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
Exactly. But people like Old Guy look for out of context quotes and know nothing more.
I notice you don't give any examples of how I took Rush's quotes out of context. And then you go on to paraphrase my comments.
xxxrayted wrote:
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But these are the type of games I would like to see eliminated.


Then you'll be glad to know that this is already illegal in Ohio. In fact, it's a felony. Too bad it's a toothless law.

"Operation Chaos," Rush Limbaugh's campaign urging Republicans to vote for Hillary Clinton in Democratic primaries, has been very effective. It doubled Republican turnout in Ohio and Texas, boosting Clinton and prolonging the Democratic race. But in Ohio, it was also almost certainly illegal.

Ohio law requires that citizens genuinely support a political party in order to vote in its primary. To change parties for a primary, a citizen must pledge, under the penalty of election falsification, that she is affiliated with the party and "supports" its principles. Lying on the pledge is a felony, punishable by up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine. The law also stipulates that poll workers have a "duty" to challenge voters who are "not a member of the political party whose ballot the person desires to vote."

In Cuyahoga, Ohio's largest county, 16,000 Republicans switched parties for the primary last month. Several did so in bad faith, without truly changing parties, according to newspaper interviews and Internet postings. The Cuyahoga Board of Elections recently voted to investigate the matter; a report is expected on March 31. Despite the massive crossover voting, however, prosecutions are considered unlikely. A spokesperson for Ohio's Attorney General told Alternet that it is "very hard to prosecute" crossover voting cases, since the crime depends on proving a voter's motive on Election Day.

Limbaugh's motives, however, have been perfectly clear from the start. "I'm asking people to cross over, and if they can stomach it and I know it's a difficult thing to do, vote for Clinton," Limbaugh said before the Ohio primary. The goal, he explained, was to ensure Barack Obama was "bloodied up politically" and to extend the Democratic primary "soap opera."

Since the Ohio investigation began, Limbaugh has revved up his special brand of self-promotional damage control. He ran several segments defending "Operation Chaos" with the disingenuous argument that politicians also ask for crossover voters. Of course, intent makes all the difference: Reagan Democrats actually supported Reagan. Limbaugh's campaign is under legal scrutiny because he asked people to crossover in bad faith -- to tamper with elections."

http://www.beyondchron.org/news/index.php...
half-breed

Chillicothe, OH

#26904 Mar 13, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
I would be a total Libertarian if not for their stance on narcotics and the military. However their small government platform is quite inviting; an issue the conservatives seemed to have abandoned.
Exactly my views about it. I liked Ron Paul, too, but his foreign policy ideas were messed up.
Rand Paul kind of fits what I'm looking for. When I watch debates and interviews, I look for somebody that wants to do the job of a president--not look to have the title of the president. I see that in Rand Paul just as I seen it with Newt Gingrich. I want somebody that exercises what he believes and not pander to the polls and party.
The less government in my life the better. And I'm willing to vote for anybody that represents my views. Less social programs and the elimination of bureaucracies (which I believe are the biggest threat to our liberty) get my attention.
Yes, the bureaucracies are a huge problem. If a conservative does win the presidency, and he goes after some of these tentacles of the federal govt, he's going to have the wrath of the left unleashed on him like we've never seen before. They depend on those to implement the bulk of their agenda.

I couldn't stand Gingrich. He was a conservative when he first started into politics, but then he sold out, IMO. I like Rand Paul, though, so far. I think I'm a little leery about him, because of his Dad's heavy libertarian streak. The world is getting too crazy to have someone in office who wants to blame America first, and turn his head to what's going on around us.

Concerning the social issues, those have been forced on us by the left. They have no respect for states rights, so they're pushing the gay agenda to the national level. And as far as their policy of infanticide goes, I can't think of any issue more important to deal with.
half-breed

Chillicothe, OH

#26905 Mar 13, 2014
Old Guy wrote:
Rush was pretty clear that his goal was to extend the primaries, and force the Democrats to waste money at the primary level, so they wouldn't have it for the general election. And also weaken both Hillary and Obama in the process. He was certain that either candidate would lose to McCain.
I wasn't listening to Limbaugh's program at that time, so I heard about "OC" in bits and pieces through the media. It sounded like a bad idea, whatever the motive.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#26906 Mar 13, 2014
half-breed wrote:
We're losing anyway. It's time to take a chance on someone who actually believes in the republican platform (a.k.a. conservatism). The right-wing is what the republican party is actually supposed to be. The RHINOS need to go back across the aisle where they belong.
Where they will be welcomed by the Democrats! The Democratic Party will then become slightly more conservative, and proceed to win a lot more elections. Good plan.

The right wing has always been just a part of a larger Republican party. There have always been fiscal conservatives that were more liberal in their social views, but still identified as Republican.
Old Guy

Cincinnati, OH

#26907 Mar 13, 2014
half-breed wrote:
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I wasn't listening to Limbaugh's program at that time, so I heard about "OC" in bits and pieces through the media. It sounded like a bad idea, whatever the motive.
I can't say that I'm a fan, but I've listened to Rush off and on since the very beginning.(He reminded me of Joe Pyne clone in his early days.) I listened to his show a lot around major elections. I was especially fascinated around the time that his hearing was failing, and he kept pretending on air that it was just some bizarre technical problem. His drug problems caught me by surprise.

It's hard to know what effect "Operation Chaos" really had. I agree that it was a bad idea.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#26908 Mar 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. But people like Old Guy look for out of context quotes and know nothing more. As a Limbaugh fan, I know exactly what he was doing and why. When Hillary was leading in the polls, he encouraged people to nominate DumBama. When DumBama took the lead, he encouraged people to nominate Hillary. His position was to F-up their primary as much as the crossovers F-d up ours. He had no dog in the fight. No matter who was nominated, either way we lose.
But these are the type of games I would like to see eliminated. Elections should not be a game. I take elections seriously because who we elect takes our country in their direction. I'm sick of hearing about Democrats bussing people to the polls, going to nursing homes to get votes of people that don't even know their spouses name, and dragging homeless people off of park benches and bribe them to vote.
If people want to register to vote, it's a very simple process. I'm against luring people who have no interest in voting to register. During the first DumBama election, one of our drivers exited the highway and was met by a group of black thugs in Cleveland. They were bothering people to register to vote for DumBama, and were offering M&M candies for signatures. Of course it was illegal, but nobody really pursued the matter. This crap needs to be stopped.
You just can't quit making up those lies. It's been proven over and over how the right keeps trying to change and rigging the elections process to their favor. But it's always a conspiracy on the left that you crybabies scream about when you lose. I do get a lot of good laughs though watching you dwindling idiots moan and complain.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#26909 Mar 14, 2014
half-breed wrote:
Dinesh D'souza's first movie, 2016, was excellent. He and producer Gerald R. Molen, have another one coming out on July 4 called "America".
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
"The movie, America, is a celebration of the uniqueness of America, and a powerful and moving rebuttal to America’s critics both at home and abroad. This film begins with a simple premise: What if America never existed? What if Columbus never landed in America because there was no America? In that case, Columbus would have kept going, and perhaps made it to his intended destination, India. How different history would have been if that occurred.
There is a crisis in America — an identity crisis. What does it mean to be an American? Is America moral or is America’s wealth a product of theft? We will also contrast the principles that built America, the spirit of 1776, with the ideas that are weakening America — the spirit of 1968. Which America do you want?"
Typical, a lying proven fraud who was just recently arrested would be one of your heroes. That's because lies are only the main points you have. Are you the same 'mutt' that got ran off of Chillicothe.com because you kept it hi-jacked with your stupidity? You sure fit the description.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#26910 Mar 14, 2014
Hey half breed-mutt. It sure seems to describe you to a Tee on the thread 'Topix Chillicothe' ;

www.topix.com/forum/city/chillicothe-oh/TFKHG...
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#26911 Mar 14, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>You just can't quit making up those lies. It's been proven over and over how the right keeps trying to change and rigging the elections process to their favor. But it's always a conspiracy on the left that you crybabies scream about when you lose. I do get a lot of good laughs though watching you dwindling idiots moan and complain.
you remind me of hanging chads.
Remember how Al Gore won, and Bush stole the election?
the right was rigging the election.....right?
your irrelevance and abject stupidity is on display again.
Pope Che Reagan Christ I

Lodi, OH

#26912 Mar 14, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
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you remind me of hanging chads.
Remember how Al Gore won, and Bush stole the election?
the right was rigging the election.....right?
your irrelevance and abject stupidity is on display again.
Why did you run from the Gun Control thread, Walter? I was really getting interested in how you annually sold 10 Billion dollars worth of pizza boxes.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26913 Mar 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't say you did. The article I posted included the Bush election and Diebold which (as they stated) was nothing more than left-wing blog lies. There was nothing wrong with the machines and there certainly was no evidence that anybody fixed the machines to favor Bush.
So you purposely provided me a link that was about something else,. and then claimed it disproves what I said. Got it. Those machines seem legit...

The state of California ordered that 15,000 of its Diebold voting machines not be used in the 2004 elections due to flaws that the company failed to disclose

I'm sure if a company that contributed heavily to getting Obama elected, were the ones who made the voting machines and while Obama was in fact losing, transferred over to their emergency servers without any reason at all, and suddenly Obama was in the lead, which is EXACTLY what happened with GW Bush, you wouldn't think it was shady at all...right? No need for conspiracies. I'll stick with the facts. Bush stole both elections.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26914 Mar 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
If you support the Democrat party, and in particular, the liberal Democrats, you support abortion and have been the last few decades.
Any Conservatives on the Supreme Court? How about the at least 30 years of my 46 years I have been alive that REPUBLICANS have been in control? Nixon, Reagan 2 terms, Bush Sr. 2 terms, GW 2 terms. Ford is in there somewhere. Who has REALLY been running the show in this country for most of my life, while abortion has been legal? Who is REALLY responsible for the debt and the state this nation is in right now? All the wars? The poverty? The GOP. That's who. Save your blame. The facts tell us otherwise.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#26915 Mar 14, 2014
Pope Che Reagan Christ I wrote:
<quoted text>
Why did you run from the Gun Control thread, Walter? I was really getting interested in how you annually sold 10 Billion dollars worth of pizza boxes.
excuse me?

are you huffing glue again?
Canton

Canton, OH

#26916 Mar 14, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
I seen this in face book and had to repost it given your comment:
Bush economy sucks--blame Bush
Obama economy sucks---blame Bush.
Holocaust- Blame Hitler
Pearl Harbor attacks-Blame Japan
Middle Class destroyed by greedy 1%-Most certainly blame GW Bush
mutt

Van Wert, OH

#26917 Mar 14, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
Hey half breed-mutt. It sure seems to describe you to a Tee on the thread 'Topix Chillicothe' ;
www.topix.com/forum/city/chillicothe-oh/TFKHG...
Looks like they pegged him as another self-righteous, compulsive lying blowhard.
Kinda like his has-been Koch sucker heroes Limbaugh and Palin...
Canton

Canton, OH

#26918 Mar 14, 2014
Funny how the same people who claimed our climate wasn't changing at all, now are claiming it's all natural. Squirm much for the oil lobby? 61 degrees, followed by snow, followed by 57 degrees, all within 4 days...seems normal. You guys just can't admit you are WRONG. It's why the country has moved on without you.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26919 Mar 14, 2014
Obama went on a popular and somewhat insider comedy show to talk about the health care act and increased people signing up by 40%. Knocked it out of the park.

Meanwhile, back in the Tea Baggers camp...



Ahhhh ha ha ha ha! Somebody bury these Tea Bagging Lawrence Welk fans. They don't know they are already dead in the water as far as this nation is concerned.
mutt

Van Wert, OH

#26920 Mar 14, 2014
Canton wrote:
Funny how the same people who claimed our climate wasn't changing at all, now are claiming it's all natural. Squirm much for the oil lobby? 61 degrees, followed by snow, followed by 57 degrees, all within 4 days...seems normal. You guys just can't admit you are WRONG. It's why the country has moved on without you.
Even funnier how our resident panel of "climate change experts" consists of an uneducated trucker, a racist creation science cannibal, and a creepy marlin fisherman who probably wears dresses made from human skin...

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#26921 Mar 14, 2014
mutt wrote:
<quoted text>Even funnier how our resident panel of "climate change experts" consists of an uneducated trucker, a racist creation science cannibal, and a creepy marlin fisherman who probably wears dresses made from human skin...
Cant leave out the middle aged lesbian.

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