half-breed

Chillicothe, OH

#26352 Mar 3, 2014
Everyone already knows that only nutballs post images like the very late term fetus you shared with us..
Ok. No more pictures of late-term aborted babies. We'll pretend those don't exist. Here's an image from an aborted lump of cells only 10 wks along:
http://clinicquotes.com/wp-content/uploads/20...
You are the kind of "hero" that screams at young women in a parking lot, as they make one of the toughest decisions they will ever have to make.
Why is it a tough decision? It's just a lump of cells.
You know, rational thought. Try it sometime. Until then...VOID
Hey, guess what? You're void. And do you know why? Because I say so.
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#26353 Mar 3, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>I think it's more like SUPPORTING THE WOMAN'S right to choose if they want to proceed with a procedure that is deeply intimate, personal and gut wrenching. Not a bunch of old grey-haired white men who have to rely on little blue pills when they visit their hookers, making that decision for them. Since 2011 there have been over 205 laws passed in the states where these old geezer's interfere between a woman and their doctor. Seem's like the people who scream the loudest against abortion are the same people who can't get laid in the first place. Well, maybe a substantial cash outlay they can.
Those old bigots sure are concerned about protecting lady parts along with being so concerned that a non-aborted fetus does not have adequate food, shelter or education.
what about the Men's rights?

can a man force a woman to abort his child?

who wants 18 years of child support payments, and a kid being brought up in a broken home.

Men demand equal rights, and the war against Man needs ended.

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#26354 Mar 3, 2014
Can anyone say personal responsibility
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#26355 Mar 3, 2014
joanna50 wrote:
Can anyone say personal responsibility
Obama passed a constitutional amendment against it by executive order.

We have no responsibility for our actions, and the Federal Government gives you money for exhibiting poor responsibility.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#26356 Mar 3, 2014
half-breed wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you suggesting that we look to the bible to make morality laws?
What does Jesus say about how to treat our enemies, and what do those passages mean?
The bible says love others like you love yourself....but YOU can't go around jacking everybody off.
woo-boy

Waverly, OH

#26357 Mar 3, 2014
half-breed wrote:
<quoted text>
Because it's in your party's platform.
Identifying with a certain religious group doesn't mean the individual is religious. Take Obama for example. He identifies as a Christian, but he supports abortion and homosexuality, and he lies and breaks the law on a regular basis. I'm sure there are many women out there just like him.
If you don't like gays or gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones that keep having gay babies.
half-breed

Chillicothe, OH

#26358 Mar 3, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
The bible says love others like you love yourself....but YOU can't go around jacking everybody off.
I wouldn't dream of taking your job.

If we love the terrorists, does that mean we have to let them kill us?

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#26359 Mar 3, 2014
Reality Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama passed a constitutional amendment against it by executive order.
We have no responsibility for our actions, and the Federal Government gives you money for exhibiting poor responsibility.
That does seem to be a growing trend. If I was born back in the 50's I think that would be the time period I would like to be stuck in.
Grey

Wilmington, OH

#26360 Mar 3, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
<quoted text>If you don't like gays or gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones that keep having gay babies.
. That is classic, well said. Never thought of it that way, new insight.
half-breed

Chillicothe, OH

#26361 Mar 3, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
If you don't like gays or gay marriage, blame straight people. They're the ones that keep having gay babies.
Good point. Homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to cheat by using heterosexuals to pro-create.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26362 Mar 3, 2014
half-breed wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you suggesting that we look to the bible to make morality laws?
What does Jesus say about how to treat our enemies, and what do those passages mean?
No, I am suggesting that you look to your Bible for answers to your questions. I'll let you know when I meet a Christian who actually follows the teachings of Christ. Until then, I'll be happy to point out the hypocrisy of modern Christianity. Funny how the people who hoard guns and worship money are always the ones who claim to be walking in the footsteps of Jesus. Strange how gung-ho the Christian Right was on Bush's unfounded war. I guess attacking a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, had no weapons of mass destruction and posed no threat to the United States is "turning the other cheek". Bush claimed that if we didn't attack, we would be learning too late in the shadow of a mushroom cloud. He claimed that UN inspectors weren't allowed in, which is a complete lie. The same folks that cry about the dumbest issues, and I'm talking so obviously desperate that it's sad, like birth certificates or FEMA death camps or Obama's secret civilian army, or taking all our guns away, you know absolutely absurd notions, all turn a blind eye to the real damage done to this nation by the Bush administration.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26363 Mar 3, 2014
half-breed wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, one of the forms of "torture" we heard about was waterboarding. What's your opinion of that?
Just like with climate science, I'll go with experts over a guy who got busted agreeing with his own posts...

&#9726;The military agency which actually provided advice on harsh interrogation techniques for use against terrorism suspects warned the Pentagon in 2002 that those techniques would produce “unreliable information.”
&#9726;Army Field Manual 34-52 Chapter 1 says:

“Experience indicates that the use of force is not necessary to gain the cooperation of sources for interrogation. Therefore, the use of force is a poor technique, as it yields unreliable results, may damage subsequent collection efforts, and can induce the source to say whatever he thinks the interrogator wants to hear.”

&#9726;A declassified FBI e-mail dated May 10, 2004, regarding interrogation at Guantanamo states “[we] explained to [the Department of Defense], FBI has been successful for many years obtaining confessions via non-confrontational interviewing techniques.”(see also this)
&#9726;Brigadier General David R. Irvine, retired Army Reserve strategic intelligence officer who taught prisoner interrogation and military law for 18 years with the Sixth Army Intelligence School, says torture doesn’t work
&#9726;The CIA’s own Inspector General wrote that waterboarding was not “efficacious” in producing information
&#9726;A former FBI interrogator — who interrogated Al Qaeda suspects — says categorically that torture does not help collect intelligence. On the other hand he says that torture actually turns people into terrorists
&#9726;A 30-year veteran of CIA’s operations directorate who rose to the most senior managerial ranks, says:

“The administration’s claims of having ‘saved thousands of Americans’ can be dismissed out of hand because credible evidence has never been offered — not even an authoritative leak of any major terrorist operation interdicted based on information gathered from these interrogations in the past seven years.… It is irresponsible for any administration not to tell a credible story that would convince critics at home and abroad that this torture has served some useful purpose.

This is not just because the old hands overwhelmingly believe that torture doesn’t work — it doesn’t — but also because they know that torture creates more terrorists and fosters more acts of terror than it could possibly neutralize.”

Since: Jan 13

Lexington, KY

#26364 Mar 3, 2014
half-breed wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point. Homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to cheat by using heterosexuals to pro-create.
At least the homosexuals don't just abandon the kids or raise them to be lazy and dependent on the government for their survival.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26365 Mar 3, 2014
Indeed, one of the top military interrogators said that torture does not work, that it has resulted in hundreds or thousands of deaths of U.S. soldiers, and that torture by Americans of innocent Iraqis is the main reason that foreign fighters started fighting against Americans in Iraq in the first place (in fact, the experts agree that torture reduces national security).

And – according to the experts – torture is unnecessary even to prevent “ticking time bombs” from exploding (see this, this and this). Indeed, a top expert says that torture would fail in a real ‘ticking time-bomb’ situation

And Dick Cheney’s claim that waterboarding Khalid Shaikh Mohammed stopped a terror attack on L.A.? As the Chicago Tribune notes:

The Bush administration claimed that the waterboarding of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed helped foil a planned 2002 attack on Los Angeles — forgetting that he wasn’t captured until 2003.

(see this confirmation from the BBC:“Khalid Sheikh Mohammed … was captured in Pakistan in 2003&#8243;).

Indeed, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed himself said:

During the harshest period of my interrogation I gave a lot of false information in order to satisfy what I believed the interrogators wished to hear in order to make the ill-treatment stop. I later told the interrogators that their methods were stupid and counterproductive. I’m sure that the false information I was forced to invent in order to make the ill-treatment stop wasted a lot of their time and led to several false red-alerts being placed in the U.S.

And “the CIA inspector general in 2004 found that there was no conclusive proof that waterboarding or other harsh interrogation techniques helped the Bush administration thwart any ‘specific imminent attacks,’ according to recently declassified Justice Department memos.”

And when long-time FBI director Mueller was asked whether any attacks on America been disrupted thanks to intelligence obtained through “enhanced techniques”, he responded “I don’t believe that has been the case.”
half-breed

Chillicothe, OH

#26366 Mar 3, 2014
woo-boy wrote:
Those old bigots sure are concerned about protecting lady parts along with being so concerned that a non-aborted fetus does not have adequate food, shelter or education.
Hardly. How long as the War on Poverty been going on now? Decades, right? How many billions (trillions?) of dollars have been spent on it, both during democrat and republican administrations? What a surprise to find out there are not only still poor people, but also an increasing number of families getting hand-outs. Another surprise is that all of our efforts still haven't satisfied you libs. Your answer to the problem is to keep throwing money at it, even though that obviously isn't the answer.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26367 Mar 3, 2014
half-breed wrote:
<quoted text>
Hardly. How long as the War on Poverty been going on now? Decades, right? How many billions (trillions?) of dollars have been spent on it, both during democrat and republican administrations? What a surprise to find out there are not only still poor people, but also an increasing number of families getting hand-outs. Another surprise is that all of our efforts still haven't satisfied you libs. Your answer to the problem is to keep throwing money at it, even though that obviously isn't the answer.
So if everyone is riding on free hand outs, like you claim, that would make people like you our personal b1tch. Too bad that all those poor families were created by trickle downs and catering to the wealthiest 1%. Toss in an unpaid for war and....yah. It's the Liberals fault. Just like how Christians get all the abortions and blame it on the godless atheists. Ahhh ha ha ha ha ha! Oh so very, very VOID.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26368 Mar 3, 2014
The experts who say torture doesn't work? You know better than them. The experts in evolutionary science?. You know better than them. The experts in global climate patterns? You know better than them. The non-religious folks who have statistically higher IQs? You know better than them. The Supreme Court of the United States of America? You know better than them.

Now if only we could get you guys to be able to spell common words on the racist Tea Party rally signs.
Canton

Canton, OH

#26369 Mar 3, 2014
half-breed wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point. Homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to cheat by using heterosexuals to pro-create.
Sounds like you have personal insight on the matter. Have you been looking at obscure gay web sites...AGAIN?
Canton

Canton, OH

#26370 Mar 3, 2014
xxxrayted wrote:
<quoted text>
This is true. However, since most of the people in this country are of a Christian faith, wouldn't it make sense that most of the abortions are by women that identify themselves with a Christian faith? It's just a matter of odds:
"Bottom Line
The United States remains a largely Christian nation; more than nine in 10 Americans who have a religious identity are affiliated with a Christian religion. There has been little change in this portrait of religious identity in the U.S. from last year.
Mormons remain the most religious group of those measured, while Jews are the least. Protestants and Muslims continue to be slightly more religious than Catholics."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/159548/identify-ch...
I see. So what you are saying is that faith isn't worth a nickel, and the same group who preaches from upon high about the evils of abortion, are really just a bunch of hypocrites. Thanks for clearing that up.
mutt

Van Wert, OH

#26371 Mar 3, 2014
half-breed wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point. Homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to cheat by using heterosexuals to pro-create.
So you're saying you actually ARE in favor of abortion, as long as it's gay babies getting killed.
How VERY morally superior and compassionate of you...

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