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red robin

Columbus, OH

#22 Aug 27, 2010
CampbellOh wrote:
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Thanks for making my point, dogs have been domesticated and prior to that they were wild. Most exotic animal owners have gotten their animals for other breeders. Although not "thousands" of years of domestication, there are sometimes 50 or more generations of domestication. I personally could care less what you do or don't eat, that is your choice. The Veganism approach however is to force that thought process on everyone which is wrong. Additionally, many exotic animal owners do use their animals in education as well. In some cases, the only animals left of a species are because of private ownership. Would you have considered Noah an animal hoarder because he loaded the Ark?
I hate to be the one to break this news to you but baby animals that lose their parents are most likely to perish in the wild. Responsible animal breeders don't take the young the minute they are born unless there are medical reasons to have to do it, same as with a human child.
As far as Charla Nash, no one forced her to go to the residence. It is unfortunate yes but the choice was hers. Exotic animal owners know what their animals are capable of and they accept that as well as anyone that works with them.
I see you missed my point entirely about Animal Owners and Abused Children. When you attach a stereotype because of an isolated incident, you might as well attach all stereotypes to all incidents. If you are going to call every animal owner an abuser, you might as well walk through the mall and call every parent a child abuser. Don't judge everyone based on 1 article; you have to look at the record. Even if you did the match to compare Dog attacks to Exotic, the outcome is still the same. Dogs and Exotics both when put into the wrong environment will act aggressively. I personally would not put my animals in this type of situation. I am a responsible animal owner.
I'm proud you're a responsible owner. But lets not bring Noah and his so called arc into the conservation.
Whatever

Columbus, OH

#23 Aug 27, 2010
We need laws against owning exotic animals. I'm sorry, but even if a few people can handle them correctly, most people cannot. In this case you need to protect the general public.

My brother used to live next to a guy who owned a bear. It was constantly getting out. Of course, the owner always had the typical response: "aw shucks, he's friendly. He'd never hurt no one".
They always say that, until it rips someone's face off.

We need laws stating that you must pay huge fees to keep exotic animals which then pay for enforcers to check up on your animal containment system on a regular basis. In other words, if you don't have a valid reason for owning such animals (like a zoo for example), then you shouldn't have them. No more cases where people own these animals just because it "sounds cool".

Since: Aug 10

Columbus, Oh

#24 Aug 30, 2010
All animals not considered "livestock" by the Ohio Revised Code is considered "Exotic". ORC defines Livestock as Cows, Sheep, Goat, Pigs, Poultry, Alpaca and Lamas. So, everything else is "exotic". So you what your sayings is that 6 year old Sally that wants to own a bunny for 4-H should have to pay a huge fee to just own a rabbit. Little Joey wants a hamster, he should have to pay a huge fee to own it?

All Exotics fall under the jurisdiction of 1 of 2 organizations, If it's native, it's ODNR teritory, if your selling the animals, native or not, it's USDA. Both organizations perform no-notice inspections on facilities. The gentleman in this article had his license revoked, he was doing all this illegally. The problem we have is people that are not licensed that own the animals. It is wrong to punish those that follow the rules and do the right thing. Punishing all exotic animal owners for the 3 or 4 accidents that have occurred in Ohio in the last 10 years is not right.

Would you feel the same way if the state made it mandatory for you to pay $5000 for a license because people drink and drive? Or making parents pay $50,000 a year for every child they have because some teenagers lack the ability to not steal and/or destroy personal property. Same thing, it would be punishing everyone for lack of responsibility of a few.

What is needed is laws to protect responsible owners. Fact is, privately owned animals live a longer, healthier life than in the wild. The receive vet care, the right foods, they are not preyed upon, hunted, ran over, shot or skinned. The tacit knowledge the world has on most of these animals is through study by private ownwers. Many zoo's reach out to private owners to obtain their animals and gain insight into the animals.

We punish bad deeds and praise the good ones. Fines should be applied to unlicensed owners and animals should be moved to proper licensed facilities.
Animal Lover

United States

#25 Aug 30, 2010
HillaryHSUS wrote:
No human should ever own an animal; slavery was abolished a hundred years ago. All animal owners are nothing more than slave masters forcing animals to do their bidding.
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All animal owners are slave masters! Does that include pet owners? If so, what pet tips do you offer? Sounds hipocritical to me.
As for me, I love animals. They're delicious! I'm a PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals) life member. If we never had wild animals in captivity, we would not have the dog or horses. Imagine human history without the horse. I believe it is wrong to unnecessarily cause an animal to suffer. However, your anthropomorphic view of the animal world troubles me. Let the animals live in peace and they will tear each other to pieces for food or will die of starvation. I have found starved deer carcuses in the woods. Not pleasant. The idyllic vision of Mother Nature is just false. Mother Nature is a cruel witch.

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