Episcopal Drama Rocks SC

Oct 17, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: FITSNews

The national Episcopal church has advised South Carolina Bishop Mark Lawrence that he has "abandoned" the church as a result of his refusal to accept its teachings on gay marriage and the ordination of gay and female clergy.

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It just proves how LOST you truly are, Spiritually, Mentally, and Physically. You approve of evil and cannot see the Light. Just like the Rainbow, you're prism is too narrow to see the whole. Speed on brother, Hell ain't half full1
You're right, it's entirely empty. God FORGIVES sin.

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Ozymandias--"Openly "Gay" you mean HOMOSEXUAL"

They mean exactly the same thing.

""Pastor" you mean ringleader."

A vile, blasphemous slur. The idea that God only chooses bigots for the misistry is a slap in the face to all Christianity. No, they are NOT a "ringleader," they are a pastor, called BY GOD to service, and doing so very well by spreading Christ's love, not the hate you want spread.

"These people have rejected Christ and his salvation"

A preposterous lie. They're not rejecting Christ in the slightest, and in fact are following him far, far more closely than you are.

And a person CANNOT "reject" Christ's salvation. It's a gift given freely, it's not something you have to "earn".

"and whose only future is an assurred damnation in Hell."

More sick, un-Christian lies. The idea that a devout, committed Christian will be tortured in "hell" for rejecting homophobia is a lie worthy of the Nazis, worthy of the lowest humanity possible. It's as sinister, as sick, as OPPOSITE of Christian behavior as one can possibly get.

"So, what's the story?"

You're ignorant and chock full of hate.

Questions?

"Homosexuality is the world's creeping (pun intended) influence upon the Church."

Lie. Homosexuality isn't "creeping," it's always existed. The only change is that the church is more and more rejecting manmade hate and ignorance and fear for Christ's love for all, and God's call to treat others with love.

"Fools, like "Middle Way" or Mr. Bendover would be a better moniker, and let us not fail to mention Vernek, that's so cute, and the Lost Lesbian, claim themselves wise yet are fools when judged in light of the scriptures which are the true words of God."

No, they aren't. There's nothing in scripture that makes your hate and lies OK, and the scriptures are the words of PEOPLE, not of God. Genesis puts the age of the earth at about 8000 years old and says the sun revolves around a flat earth. Leviticus and Numbers claim such things as having sex with your wife when on her period is a "sin" and that if your child talks back to you you should put them to death by stoning. Paul says that women are not allowed to speak inside the church building. NONE of these are the "words of God."

"Good Luck at the Judgment, you'll need more than luck though as you blaspheme the name of Christ ....daily."

The only one blaspheming Christ's name is you and your fellow bigots.

Fortunately, "judgement day" is also a manmade myth. In spite of your hate and lies, you can look forward not to judgement day but to forgiveness day.

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Absolutely not you "unwashed swine." I'll continue to point out the fallacy of your professed faith and the overwhelming weight of your fallacy. Jesus did not die on the cross to enable homosexuals to practice an abomination and still claim salvation. Homosexuals....die to the flesh and live in the spirit. You cannot do both!
ConfusedWay you are sucker indeed! lol!
Vile, blasphemous pack of lies. You truly are NOT a follower of Christ. Homosexuality is NOT an "abomination," your hate is. Homosexuality is no more a "practice" than heterosexuality is, and the idea that God ONLY saves heterosexuals is a slur and insult to God.

Gay people do not "die to the flesh," being gay is no more about sex than being straight is, and it's the most anti-Christian of lies to claim a gay person cannot live in the spirit. Many do.

The only sucker is you and your fellow bigots who think homophobia is Christian, when it is the polar opposite of Christianity.

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You're right, it's entirely empty. God FORGIVES sin.
Amen!

It fascinates me to see bigots think that God is as hateful as they are.

Didn't they read the part about 'God is LOVE'?

Maybe they need to reread what you do to the least of these you do to Me?

Post on my brother, the truth is with you....
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For bigots, you bet.
LOL.....
In your little world bigot=anyone who disagrees with you?
You are a sorry excuse for a person.

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In your little world bigot=anyone who disagrees with you?
You are a sorry excuse for a person.
No dear.

Bigot
-a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race

Why so much hate?

Now you can keep to the subject or talk to yourself.

Did you pick the name shadow because you follow people or because you have no substance of your own?

LOL......

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Haters...don't hate.
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Perverts regularly deny that a marriage licenses original purpose was public support for raising children.

Instead perverts claim a marriage license is support for "love".

Pervert love regularly takes the form of sodomy and abortion and pornography.

Perverts refer to anal and oral sodomy as sex, which indicates many perverts were asleep during biology classes.

The media is filled with news of perverts sodomizing kids, but the media mavens have spun the news to lay the blame on pedophiles, not perverts who are the real culprits.

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LIVING WELL*THE BEST REVENGE

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John wrote:
Perverts regularly deny that a marriage licenses original purpose was public support for raising children.
Instead perverts claim a marriage license is support for "love".
Pervert love regularly takes the form of sodomy and abortion and pornography.
Perverts refer to anal and oral sodomy as sex, which indicates many perverts were asleep during biology classes.
The media is filled with news of perverts sodomizing kids, but the media mavens have spun the news to lay the blame on pedophiles, not perverts who are the real culprits.
No ORAL sex for you...sodomite!
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Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
<quoted text>No ORAL sex for you...sodomite!
Keep it clean porky or I will report your gender confused butt.
Got it butch?
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For bigots, you bet.
LOL.....
No right on for normal people, not for people like you!
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No dear.
Bigot
-a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race
Why so much hate?
Now you can keep to the subject or talk to yourself.
Did you pick the name shadow because you follow people or because you have no substance of your own?
LOL......
Like I said , people who disagree with you right.
You and your kind are a disgrace to normal people.
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Woo
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Woo
So what is that supposed to mean?
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Vile, blasphemous pack of lies. You truly are NOT a follower of Christ. Homosexuality is NOT an "abomination," your hate is. Homosexuality is no more a "practice" than heterosexuality is, and the idea that God ONLY saves heterosexuals is a slur and insult to God.
Gay people do not "die to the flesh," being gay is no more about sex than being straight is, and it's the most anti-Christian of lies to claim a gay person cannot live in the spirit. Many do.
The only sucker is you and your fellow bigots who think homophobia is Christian, when it is the polar opposite of Christianity.
You have no truth in you and no light. Isiah 8:20 20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

If HOMOSEXUALS not "gays" which is a lie, do not "die to the flesh" they cannot "live in the spirit." 1 Peter 2:11
Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

Homosexuals have rejected the salvation of Christ choosing rather to lust in the flesh. It's really simple. To practice Homosexuality is a one way ticket to damnation. Just like those the angels blinded in Sodom, so are those today who think they claim Christ's redemption while eating at the "tables of demons."

Fool yourself and "WrongWay" who is already lost, I will not be deceived by your feigned interpretation of Scripture. Sodom was destroyed as an example to others who would live as Sodomites. Ouch!
Jude 1:7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. 8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Scripture does not lie concerning the damnation of homosexuals which you endorse. The Lord rebuke you for your lies and deceit.
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MiddleWay wrote:
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No dear.
Bigot
-a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race
Why so much hate?
Now you can keep to the subject or talk to yourself.
Did you pick the name shadow because you follow people or because you have no substance of your own?
LOL......
You are an idiot and a bigot. You are a hypocrite and fool to boot. Who are you to claim substance as your comments are merely meaningless contradictions founded on silly supposition and conjecture. It's no wonder you have been "sucked into" the gay lie! Wipe that *hit off your mouth!
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MiddleWay wrote:
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Amen!
It fascinates me to see bigots think that God is as hateful as they are.
Didn't they read the part about 'God is LOVE'?
Maybe they need to reread what you do to the least of these you do to Me?
Post on my brother, the truth is with you....
God provides a "way of salvation" not a "blank check - get out of jail free from your sins card." God does not ENABLE sin nor does he accept HOMOSEXUAL practices as love as it is merely self abuse, just like alcoholism. What you lack Wrongway is discernment. You are out of your league arguing scriptural or spiritual mandates. Save it for some other silly thread.

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Phil McGroen wrote:
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God provides a "way of salvation" not a "blank check - get out of jail free from your sins card." God does not ENABLE sin nor does he accept HOMOSEXUAL practices as love as it is merely self abuse, just like alcoholism. What you lack Wrongway is discernment. You are out of your league arguing scriptural or spiritual mandates. Save it for some other silly thread.
Folks, Philly is back with a new quart of paint.

Only he already spilled half of it.

Middleway discerns just fine. And, considering his education, work and background, in the context of his faith, he is not anywhere close to being "out of his league."

The question is, why are YOU here? It is YOU who are out of your league. You are something of a fundamentalist Christian, possibly an evangelical. Not that there is anything bad about that. It is just a mindset that often develops a very limited point of view - such as you regularly and consistently demonstrate.

Jesus told a parable about a Lord who left each of his servants with "talents." That is, a measure of wealth was given to each to invest while he was away. A couple of them invested wisely. One buried his talent for fear of losing it. One reinvested and showed responsibility with what he had been given and business prowess.

When the Lord returned, that one who showed prowess was commended and given more to invest.

You were given talents, Phil. They are your brain and your heart and the Teachings of Christ Jesus, among other things. But, of these, you have yet to make much out of them.

You don't allow yourself to reason, though you know that you should. You close your mind to the truth. You don't allow yourself to show your understanding that Christ lives in everyone, so you have locked your potentuial to show love for your fellow mankind in a "box" and have essentially "buried" it.

You have read and consumed the Teachings of Christ Jesus and regurgitate parts of them regularly. But, you have failed to digest them.

Instead of learning to seek forgiveness and mercy and also showing those capacities, you have learned to wield His Teachings like an axe, using them to find fault in others that allows you to distance yourself from them - instead of finding a source of God-given humanity inside of yourself with which you can sincerely identify and touch.

You have, for all practical purposes, painted yourself into a theological, self-gratifying, isolationist's corner, nursing your own hatreds.

Each time you have returned to these threads, instead of looking for conversation and reasons to find agreement with your fellow Christians, you begin with a tirade of hypocritical and bigoted, venomious attacks, looking to gain traction with ridicule.

Sorry, Phil. It never worked for you, before. It still doesn't work.

Homosexuality has absolutely no parallel in alcoholism.

Rev. Ken

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Scripture does not lie concerning the damnation of homosexuals which you endorse. The Lord rebuke you for your lies and deceit.
If that is what you want to pray that God really believes, you go right ahead, but it is still His call whether you are right or not, not yours.

What's your opinion on the truth of scripture warning against false prophets and how to recognize them? Because, those aren't figs.
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John wrote:
Perverts regularly deny that a marriage licenses original purpose was public support for raising children.
Instead perverts claim a marriage license is support for "love".
Pervert love regularly takes the form of sodomy and abortion and pornography.
Perverts refer to anal and oral sodomy as sex, which indicates many perverts were asleep during biology classes.
The media is filled with news of perverts sodomizing kids, but the media mavens have spun the news to lay the blame on pedophiles, not perverts who are the real culprits.
Perverts have marriage rights; gay people do not
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So lets check out perverts and see what you've got going on that we don't:
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Glibness and Superficial Charm
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Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
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Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."
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Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
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Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
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Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
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Incapacity for Love
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Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
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Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
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Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
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Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
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Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
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Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
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Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
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Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
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