3rd recruit dies during basic at Fort Jackson basic training

Oct 28, 2008 Full story: Stars and Stripes 358

A third soldier in about a month has died during basic combat training at Fort Jackson, S.C. Pvt.

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Fox Co

United States

#370 Feb 17, 2013
Bct was a blast for me haha I actually miss it to be honest. Now im in AIT, hate it compared to BCT. One kid, the cycle before me, blew his head off with an M16 in the bathroom while everyone was asleep. Another kid died of a heart attack while he was doing his 2 mile run. If you complain about BCT being too hard youre wrong. Its soft these days. Back in the day they probably didn't die because they were a stronger generation. FACT: The current gen is the WEAKEST gen to date. Thats embarrassing. The point is; its not hard unless you make it hard. Do everything they say and you'll be fine.
Rocky

Apo, AE

#371 Feb 22, 2013
Johnny2byFour wrote:
This drake,is one funny guy. Throughout all of these rambunctious messages all I can annotate. Is a 27 year army reserved joke,still laughing. Infantry must have made you quite the illiterate. That's okay though because I agree semi with your statement. Kids need to push themselves to their limits and even a bit farther,whimps aren't for grunt work,award goes to you sir. As for you having no respect as a parent that award sadly goes to hell with you,brother. Of course the parents of these children are worried have more compassion nit-wit,these parents obviously love their kids,more than I can say for you but that's okay. Their kids are angels and your is compared to cottage cheese.
It appears you are bipolar. How can you "semi agree" and then only to disagree with what is posted by drake?? As far as "illiterate" you might want to go back an review your previous post before judging others. You are simply a moron!
Rocky

Apo, AE

#372 Feb 22, 2013
Suicide wrote:
What happens when someone in Boot camp committes suicide? Do they do a investigation, and if so is it by military only, how long would it take?
Does it ever get out to the public besides the family? and how long before they tell the family?
Anytime there is a death, incident, accident, crimal in nature etc., an investigation is done. If its on a military location CID (Criminal Invest. Div) has the lead agency. If its off post, it becomes a joint investigation for two reasons. First, the Soldier is technically obligated to the Federal Govt. Bottomline...the govt. owns you until your obligation to the service is complete. Second, because an incident happens off post, local authorities will most likely be the lead agency. They are equal to FBI because they are Federal. Investigations could take however long it requires to investigate. It depends on the the situation. I have seen it take up to eight months before results from a cause of death incident from the FBI.
Ron

United States

#373 Feb 26, 2013
I just want to know why was some one in the Latrine with a weapon why was that weapon not secure in the Armory no one in AIT should have a weapon in the Latrine you have been watching Full Metal Jacket
jack

Kathleen, GA

#374 Mar 12, 2013
Apparently. You all are talking about all this different bull about these kids or their parents all kids are different and a million ways just thank God it was y'all or your child that was there it has nothing to do with been tough or man up these are someone child that died while in basic training so something had to be wrong there is a reason for death dummies and its no such thing as natural causes all it is you have sleep apnea during sleep and not getting enough oxygen to the brain and you die in your sleep so lets be real people stop judging. People just because you made it through with out dying doesn't mean you can point fingers at someone else so if you are army strong or has someone in the army I am quiet sure they taught you guys respect......
jack

Kathleen, GA

#375 Mar 12, 2013
You are talking about over weight children it not the parents its the school too and if you have teenagers you cant control what they eat when they are out with friends, our at track meet, football, games, etc. If they are small you can control what they it we can teach our kids all the right things in life doesn't mean they are going to do it when they are not around you ..apparently. you don't have teenage kids that have a social life
drake wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, you read post #12 wrong. I was posting to a racist indivdiual. Please read it again and who I responded to with the racist remarks which has nothing to do with the thread.
Second, yes I did refer parents as "punk azz" because today's parents don't do what the last generation parents did. Child protection services doesn't have a thing to do with instilling standards for your kids. Today's kids do not excrises and the parents don't cook and bringing home Pizza and eating processed foods don't help.
Also, the Army has always taken or allowed kids with a little boddy fat over the requirement. The theory is by the time that kid leaves basic training they will lose 10-15lbs in an eight week period. After reviewing the three cases each kid slightly over weight. Nothing wrong with that. This goes on all the time in the Army with kids slightly over weight. And yes, you can control what you kids eat. The problem is parents have lost sight. We have become a country of over weight people eating processed foods and foods that are not health.
Here is the truth a study was conducted by Univ of Georgia on children phsycial fitness. They took 300 kids and study there physical fitness. They had 300 kids stand in place and touch there ankles. Only 44% of the kids could touch their toes. The study included 11-17 year olds. This is SAD! I am 44 years old and I can touch my toes with no problem.
Bottm-line what the study is saying is our children are not in shape and are physically unfit. As I stated before, it starts at home and second the public school system which has taken it out of there programs due to cost. Parents need to stand up to the school system on this issue.
Finally, the deaths of three kids was not the Army's fault. Two of the three deaths are under further investigaion. One of the kids autopsy report indicated that the kid was taking a Dietary Supplement to lose weight which was a contributing factor to his death. The other child they believe was on some sort of supplement as well but still underinvestigation.
So...is the Army the blame for kids taking supplements? The fact is taking any kind of dietary supplement in the heat doesn't work.
james

Washington, DC

#376 Apr 20, 2013
I am 57 now you all have it easy talk to the old soldier what you getting now is nothing compare to what I had to take no one die while I was there thank god for those leader don't no where I be today if hasn't went in the army I was on tank hill I look back today I wouldn't change a thing you have yo learn how to survise its no joke people joined for difference reasons but you are infantry foot soldier
Sad

Apo, AE

#377 Apr 21, 2013
jack wrote:
You are talking about over weight children it not the parents its the school too and if you have teenagers you cant control what they eat when they are out with friends, our at track meet, football, games, etc. If they are small you can control what they it we can teach our kids all the right things in life doesn't mean they are going to do it when they are not around you ..apparently. you don't have teenage kids that have a social life<quoted text>
apparently you are a parent with no balls. Sounds like your kids run your house and kick your butt everyday. Of course you can't control what your kids eat when they aren't around you but can control what they eat in your house. You can also take the video games and computer games away from them as well. But you sound like a punk azz parent. Maybe if the parent display good eating habits and work out a little... The kids will do the same. Kids are a product of there parents. Now go to the store and get some balls!
delta

United States

#378 Jun 13, 2013
I went there and sorry if you don't want to hear this but it was the best training ever. They do push you hard and call you names and may even lay a hand on you but guess what its the army. If they can't handle this then they sure as hell won't make it down range. The drill sgts there know this. Yes they can be overly aggressive but they are training your kids to go and fight an enemy that has been fighting sence any of us were born. You have got to be tough you have got to be strong and honestly if they can't take a little abuse then they need not join because they will get somebody killed and its as simple as that. This is war. Not some game of laser tag. These bullets will kill. I was on mortuary affairs so I have seen it first hand. If I didn't get abused a little or made to do everything that they had us do. I promise you I wouldnt have made it home. Training is everything. And they are damn good at it.
delta

United States

#379 Jun 13, 2013
Tell me this fox company what was his weapon doing out of the weapon rack. If I remember correctly they are under lock and chain and inventory ever hour. And plus you don't store your weapon with live rounds. They have blank adapters and the only time you are given live ammo is on the range and they shake you Down before you leave the range. So I call bs man
delta

United States

#380 Jun 13, 2013
Fox Co wrote:
Bct was a blast for me haha I actually miss it to be honest. Now im in AIT, hate it compared to BCT. One kid, the cycle before me, blew his head off with an M16 in the bathroom while everyone was asleep. Another kid died of a heart attack while he was doing his 2 mile run. If you complain about BCT being too hard youre wrong. Its soft these days. Back in the day they probably didn't die because they were a stronger generation. FACT: The current gen is the WEAKEST gen to date. Thats embarrassing. The point is; its not hard unless you make it hard. Do everything they say and you'll be fine.
..........I think the shooting in the bathroom is bs man. You store your weapon under lock and chain and they check the every hour. Plus you have blank adapters on them plus you don't go back to the barracks with live rounds they shake you down before you leave the ranges. I agree with the statement about it being weak however. They allow cell phones and civies now and they didn't when I went there. This generation cries if they catch a stiff breeze. The harder they are on you the better cause when you go down range your enemy will not play games with you. So let them get a little brutal. Its the army and war is just that war. They won't follow Geneva convention rules and I know this first hand. So if your kid can't take a slap on the wrist or a two mile run then they are in the wrong line of work. That too is a fact
delta

United States

#381 Jun 13, 2013
CharlieO wrote:
Get real Drake. My son is at Ft. Jackson right now ( not fat and in good shape). Some of the crap these kids are put through in this heat is stupid. I was in the military 20 yrs and of course there were times I put my life on the line BUT NOT WHEN I AM A SNOT NOSED KID IN BASIC. I bet you haven't had a kid through this yet are you wouldn't be such a big talker.
.......well its obvious you haven't been down range. Your kid can't handle 90 degree weather then what the hell are they going to do in 150 degree heat in Iraq. Oh not to mention it gets about 50 or 60 at night. I went through a gallon of water when available n hour and never would piss. You think its hot at Jackson lol just wait.
delta

United States

#382 Jun 13, 2013
drake wrote:
<quoted text> Huh? That is why they call it the military. What rock did you crawl from under? I am in the Army Reserves and have been for 27 years. I reviewed two to the deaths which two of the three kids were fat, unlike the kids from the 70's-80's era. There death played a role in there being over weight. This should be a lesson for parents to get thre kids in some sort of physcial fitness program since schools have failed to do it.
Second, the military is the military. If your son or daughter is capture what do you think will happen to them? The job of the military is the build them up mentally and physically. If you are so worried about your child maybe you shouldn't of signed the papers for them to join.
.... I agree. Fully.
marine

Yates Center, KS

#383 Jun 15, 2013
drake wrote:
<quoted text> Huh? That is why they call it the military. What rock did you crawl from under? I am in the Army Reserves and have been for 27 years. I reviewed two to the deaths which two of the three kids were fat, unlike the kids from the 70's-80's era. There death played a role in there being over weight. This should be a lesson for parents to get thre kids in some sort of physcial fitness program since schools have failed to do it.
Second, the military is the military. If your son or daughter is capture what do you think will happen to them? The job of the military is the build them up mentally and physically. If you are so worried about your child maybe you shouldn't of signed the papers for them to join.
And its PSOE like you who just talk but been a reserve for 30 years, grow some balls and do some work.
mike

Leominster, MA

#384 Jul 13, 2013
I had asthma I don't know if I still do, I do not need an inhaler(im 210) but i need to be at 163 am i just fat? i think i outgrew asthma can someone give me their advice? Im about to be 21
Father of a new recruit

Hopewell, VA

#385 Aug 9, 2013
drake wrote:
<quoted text> Huh? That is why they call it the military. What rock did you crawl from under? I am in the Army Reserves and have been for 27 years. I reviewed two to the deaths which two of the three kids were fat, unlike the kids from the 70's-80's era. There death played a role in there being over weight. This should be a lesson for parents to get thre kids in some sort of physcial fitness program since schools have failed to do it.
Second, the military is the military. If your son or daughter is capture what do you think will happen to them? The job of the military is the build them up mentally and physically. If you are so worried about your child maybe you shouldn't of signed the papers for them to join.


Sir,what you said is correct. There are many good people serving
their (not,there)country. Please though, Use spell check and their refers to people while there is not. NOW drop and gimmie 50 then go buy a dictionary.
TED

Pennsauken, NJ

#386 Jan 31, 2014
Drake has a college degree, how did he become an army officer he can't even type well. I think he has major problems with reading and writing.
Rocky

Apo, AE

#387 Apr 7, 2014
TED wrote:
Drake has a college degree, how did he become an army officer he can't even type well. I think he has major problems with reading and writing.
Well...after looking post it appears you didn't go far in life. Try using "?" when typing a question. What a moron....

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