Young Child in Critical Condition Aft...

Young Child in Critical Condition After Shooting Self

There are 392 comments on the WLTX Columbia story from Jun 9, 2008, titled Young Child in Critical Condition After Shooting Self. In it, WLTX Columbia reports that:

The City of Columbia Police Department says a young child has been shot at a Sam's Club in Columbia, and they say the child is now in critical condition.

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Monty

Omaha, NE

#322 Jun 9, 2008
Amy wrote:
If i am not mistaken a county magistrate does not need a concealed weapons permit in order to carry a weapon.
I'm not sure that is true. I've read the statute for your state and they don't specifically list a magistrate as being exempt from prohibitions on carry.
Hubert wrote:
And concealed weapons permit signs does not apply to her.
Are you sure about that?
Fellow gun packing Granny

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#323 Jun 9, 2008
I would not want to be this Grandma for all the money in the world.
My heart & prayers go to the child & the grandmother. What she now has to live with is one of the worst things ever. what is even sadder if this world has not become so bad with such evil the grandmother would not have had to be carring a gun at all!
Yes she was wrong for not proper handling/care of her wepon .
Yet there would be no wepon if all the creeps of this world would not be send so many death threats to her just for she does her job. May God take away her guilt lesson her pain.
May the Lord keep his watch over the child & bring her back home to the love of her family. People Please do Blame anyone. It was a bad accident. A sad bad accident! I am so sorry This Family has to go threw this! & Grandma Buy an ankle Strap for your gun this way it is always with you /on you.
You will never again have to worry about somone taking it or worry about who may shoot you or your loved one for doing your job.
Somone who Knows about Threats.
IT WILL BE OK HANG IN THERE GRANDMA!
STAY STRONG LITTLE ONE!
Monty

Omaha, NE

#324 Jun 9, 2008
That last response should have been addressed to Amy, not Hubert.
Robert

Edmonton, Canada

#325 Jun 9, 2008
Monty wrote:
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Oh you misguided Canucks. Can't seem to grasp the concept of rights and liberties so you show your ignorance for all to see.
Monty, we understand the right to live without isane levels of crime, the right to a good public education, the right to free health care, and the right to a fantasitic economy. We have the right to own guns and our government is not wiretapping us. Wrap yourself in your flag a little tighter and just keep believing! I should note that our taxes are about on par with the USA as well, just in case you thouht differently.
Robert

Edmonton, Canada

#326 Jun 9, 2008
responsible gun owner wrote:
Bravo to you Monty. It is nice to someone from another part of the country actually standing up for us. I would much rather hear from you than the people from the People's Republics of California, Washington, and Canada. Some of you may think Sam's Club is the safest place in town, but how do you get to your car from the store. Try walking in some of our parking lots sometime. I am a male in my 30's. I would probably be scared if I were a female with a young granddaughter. By the way, I am not justifying the grandmother's negligence. I am defending her right to protect herself though. Columbia is a very safe city, but I don't go out after dark without legally carrying a concealed firearm. The criminals are armed and so are a number of teenagers in this area. By the way, they usually aren't trained and don't obey the existing gun laws. Taking my gun away will not make you safer. If you want to give yours up, that is fine. Just don't call me when the [email protected] hits the fan.
All I am saying is that it is possible to live in a world where the need to defend yourself is much much rarer and that the approach to governance that you have taken has led to a country where ten times (1000% more) people are killed and robbed than in mine. Maybe you have something to learn. We have guns, just not a gun culture.
Monty

Omaha, NE

#327 Jun 9, 2008
Are You Kidding Me wrote:
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Do you carry a weapon?
Yes, at times.
Are You Kidding Me wrote:
Would you put it in a shopping cart loaded with your child or grandchild?
No. As I said, it should be holstered and/or held by the owner.
Are You Kidding Me wrote:
A weapon doesn't need to be loaded with the safety off to go shopping.
Who said otherwise??
Are You Kidding Me wrote:
What does this have to do with insurance?
Just because you've never heard of an altercation at the Sam's doesn't mean it can't happen. If you've never had a car accident, is that reason enough not to have insurance?
Are You Kidding Me wrote:
And by the way, this is SC. Something happening in the area of the mall and Walmart/Sam's Club in this town makes the news, so yes I would know.
Again, that doesn't mean it can't happen.
Are You Kidding Me wrote:
I keep up with those things because I have children and grandchildren that go to these places. So please take you sarcasm elsewhere.
That wasn't sarcasm, it was reality. You can choose to deny that criminals are all around nut you wouldn't be doing your children and grandchildren good by doing so.
Are You Kidding Me wrote:
What you say about the grandmother being responsible is true, however no charges will be filed against her.
Time will tell. Being a magistrate, I'm afraid you may be correct.
Fellow gun packing Granny

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#328 Jun 9, 2008
I hate to say this but no charges are filed for who she is . If that was me I would have Lost My gun permit , my sled licen & been find. If I was luck that would be all That would happen. Yes the guilt is Big Punishment. Yet I have seen many idiots get aproved for thier gun permit that should have NOT!
I am not saying the Judge is an idot I am saying the Law Stinks. It is all about who you are and who you know. She still may lose her gun permitt. Just for she was not thrown in Jail does not mean sled will not press charges or take her permit away.
Monty wrote:
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She wasn't carrying either. The gun was in her purse and the kid was in a cart of somekind with the purse.
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Who posted that response?
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Agreed. I would assume you feel the same way about the automobiles in the parking lot as well.
Monty

Omaha, NE

#329 Jun 9, 2008
Robert wrote:
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Shirkers, thats a real insult given that Canada was in BOTH world wars fighting LONG BEFORE the USA. Also we are carrying a much larger load in AFGANISTAN (the real war on terror) instead of playing around in Iraq like a bunch of Dick Chenney Fools. We were also in Korea, but not in Vietnam. We provide more peacekeepers and more foreign aid per capita. We are not the Shirkers, we are a country that fullfills our global responsabilities. If you dont want to learn about our soceity just ignore my comments, or are you just afraid that you might find out the truth?
You want to come in here and badmouth another country but can't stand a little return fire??
Robert

Edmonton, Canada

#330 Jun 9, 2008
Observer wrote:
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Seems that I read a study on the effects of eating too much yellow snow, some years back. I thought the extent of the effects was exaggerated at the time but I am reconsidering.
Seriously Observer, you can't look around you at your failing economy and somehow think you are doing well. As I understand it, you have loads of forclosers, a shrinking economy and high unemployment. I am sorry to say, but its just better here. Perhaps the weather is worse, but the governance is better. Its just part of being in a civilized country. We are starting to have boarder problems here with Americans sneeking across the board to find work. You are our Mexico.
Monty

Omaha, NE

#331 Jun 9, 2008
Robert wrote:
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Monty, we understand the right to live without isane levels of crime, the right to a good public education, the right to free health care, and the right to a fantasitic economy. We have the right to own guns and our government is not wiretapping us. Wrap yourself in your flag a little tighter and just keep believing! I should note that our taxes are about on par with the USA as well, just in case you thouht differently.
Wrap myself up tighter? You think I'm thrilled with our problems?

When the demographics are more on par, I'll be ready to entertain comparisons.

Health care? Sorry, I know 2 doctors who moved here from Canada...they weren't thrillesd with the health care there.
Fellow gun packing Granny

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#332 Jun 9, 2008
Monty wrote:
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I'm not sure that is true. I've read the statute for your state and they don't specifically list a magistrate as being exempt from prohibitions on carry.
<quoted text>
Are you sure about that?
No one is exempt frm a carring permit everyone is finger printed & has to take a course & test. She carried for she recives many daeth threats now she has to think what is wors the death threats or safty.her bag should have never left her person ! NO! rule your wepon is always to be on your person! It is a part of your body always! she broke the number one rule, Sadly she will pay this price the rest of her life. She almost killed her grand child! For she was not thinking.

“Pray for Clay”

Since: Apr 08

Gaston (hope not for long)

#333 Jun 9, 2008
Hubert wrote:
So..this is going to happen more and more.....90% of all gun killings and shootings are done by family and friends.
Yahoo it's the old west again.
You pulled that number out of your a$$. That's not accurate at all. There are more crimes committed with firearms than family and friends you moron.
Robert

Edmonton, Canada

#334 Jun 9, 2008
Monty wrote:
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You want to come in here and badmouth another country but can't stand a little return fire??
You want to call my country cold, fine cause its the truth, but Shirkers, no way. What I have said about the USA holds true - failing education system, bad economy, bad social programs, and high crime rates. I will take a little snow in exchange for those things.
Monty

Omaha, NE

#335 Jun 9, 2008
Robert wrote:
<quoted text>
All I am saying is that it is possible to live in a world where the need to defend yourself is much much rarer and that the approach to governance that you have taken has led to a country where ten times (1000% more) people are killed and robbed than in mine. Maybe you have something to learn. We have guns, just not a gun culture.
Robert, we don't have a gun problem. We have a crime problem.
It is fueled largely by the insane War on Drugs and the culture that it breeds.
When the actions of gang bangers and criminals who by definiton break laws are used as the basis for more insane laws for the criminals to break, something is indeed wrong.
It's not the law abiding gun owners who are the problem.

Politicians on BOTH sides want to use gun control as some type of football and rights and liberties take a hit as a result.
Robert

Edmonton, Canada

#336 Jun 9, 2008
Monty wrote:
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Wrap myself up tighter? You think I'm thrilled with our problems?
When the demographics are more on par, I'll be ready to entertain comparisons.
Health care? Sorry, I know 2 doctors who moved here from Canada...they weren't thrillesd with the health care there.
Dr's make more $$ in the USA certainly, but look at the global stats. The USA has lower survivor rates after heart surgery and much higher infant mortality rates. We are close in every category (some higher, some lower). For the public, the health care here is better and universal, its just a fact. For the very wealthy...they likley have better health care in the USA.
Monty

Omaha, NE

#337 Jun 9, 2008
Robert wrote:
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Seriously Observer, you can't look around you at your failing economy and somehow think you are doing well.
Our economy cycles. Quite regularly too.
Robert wrote:
As I understand it, you have loads of forclosers, a shrinking economy and high unemployment.
Many of the foreclosures are as a result of speculators...not the gov't action or inaction. High unemployment? 5.5%. Not high with many Europoean countries.
Shrinking economy? How so?
Robert wrote:
I am sorry to say, but its just better here. Perhaps the weather is worse, but the governance is better. Its just part of being in a civilized country.
We are civilized down here Robert. You really need to get out more.
Robert wrote:
We are starting to have boarder problems here with Americans sneeking across the board to find work. You are our Mexico.
What are they doing about it?
Texas CHL Holder

Plano, TX

#338 Jun 9, 2008
AbbyLabbysMom wrote:
Not one person posting has asked this question:
Every handgun has a 'safety' switch near the trigger. Why in the world would anyone with three working neurons and a CWP be careless enough carry a loaded gun in a purse with the safety off? If you drop it, or swing it wrong, something in the purse can catch the trigger and fire it. In order for the weapon to fire you must have the safety in the OFF position. When the safety is in the ON position the trigger is blocked and the gun will not fire. It takes a conscious effort to switch safety to ON, and I think that it is not something that a child could easily do.
Not all weapons have safeties. Most revolvers are double action and do not have a safety and there are plenty of examples of small semiautomatics pistols that are double action only (DAO) and do not have a manual safety. My current daily carry weapon is a Ruger LCP and it is DAO without a manual safety. This was poor judgment on the part of the permit holder and is not representative of permit holders in general.
Robert

Edmonton, Canada

#339 Jun 9, 2008
Monty wrote:
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Robert, we don't have a gun problem. We have a crime problem.
It is fueled largely by the insane War on Drugs and the culture that it breeds.
When the actions of gang bangers and criminals who by definiton break laws are used as the basis for more insane laws for the criminals to break, something is indeed wrong.
It's not the law abiding gun owners who are the problem.
Politicians on BOTH sides want to use gun control as some type of football and rights and liberties take a hit as a result.
I fully agree that the war on drugs is a failed policy. You also have a crime problem. I dont accept the demographic arguement because it is a failed social policy that has led to those poor demographics (I assume that you mean some parts of your society are laden with crime). This can be overcome with good governance.

In any case, its been fun, but I need to get back to work and actually achieve something today. Cheers
Monty

Omaha, NE

#340 Jun 9, 2008
Fellow gun packing Granny wrote:
<quoted text>No one is exempt frm a carring permit everyone is finger printed & has to take a course & test. She carried for she recives many daeth threats now she has to think what is wors the death threats or safty.her bag should have never left her person ! NO! rule your wepon is always to be on your person! It is a part of your body always! she broke the number one rule, Sadly she will pay this price the rest of her life. She almost killed her grand child! For she was not thinking.
Actually the statutes DO list exceptions with respect to lawful carry.

See SECTION 16-23-20.
Monty

Omaha, NE

#341 Jun 9, 2008
Robert wrote:
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You want to call my country cold, fine cause its the truth, but Shirkers, no way. What I have said about the USA holds true - failing education system,
Compared to?? I would admit that it's terrbibly watered down and lost its focus.
Robert wrote:
bad economy,
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Huh? How many industrialized nations have a higher GDP?

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bad social programs,
By what measure??
Robert wrote:
and high crime rates.
In some cities but not others. Noi different than in your country. You're always going to have higher crime rates in concentrated areas of the populace.
Robert wrote:
I will take a little snow in exchange for those things.
Trust me, I see my share of snow.

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