Missouri Proposition B: The Puppy Mill Bill

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Animal Cant Read

United States

#23 Oct 7, 2010
Why would a dog proponent support a "puppy mill bill" that doesn't cover the treatment of the puppies?
Awesome veteran

Wentzville, MO

#24 Oct 7, 2010
Hell you ask me breeding dogs in general should be illegal. There are enough stray dogs in the world we really don't need to make more. Purebred dogs are usually inbred and disease prone
Vote Yes

United States

#25 Oct 7, 2010
As a puppy mill owner and dog fighting affectionate...I'm voting yes. Under the bill, I no longer am required to provide adequate food and shelter to the puppies. I can save money!!! I just have to remember to get rid of the puppies (feed them to the fighting dogs) before they reach six months. I'll set a reminder on my Iphone.
MISSING HIM

Ankeny, IA

#26 Oct 7, 2010
Animal lover wrote:
It is time that we show some compassion for our animal friends who can not speak for themselves. It is our obligation to vote YES and protect them from the horrors of the puppy mills in Missouri.
My vote is YES which is the right vote and I hope that your vote is also YES on Proposition B. Thank you.
I agree
Critterlover

Hayti, MO

#27 Oct 7, 2010
Sweetie wrote:
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If you look up the list of what the bill refers to as domesticated animals, dogs are first on the list, then cattle, sheep, hogs, cats. They do not have to be living in your house, they just have to be maintained by you and rely on you for their care on your property. That means in my fields that is fenced and they are fed grain and hay, so yes they are domesticated animals to which this bill refers to as a pet. No sarcasm intended, if it reads that way.
Please provide a link to the "list" to which you are referring. The bill refers to Dog Breeders, and dogs....not cattle or the like. Maybe we are reading two different bills.

(9)”Pet” means any domesticated animal normally maintained in or near the household of the owner thereof.

I see nothing else that refers to anything but dogs in the bill I'm rading.

As far as it being a precusor to a nonexistant bill that MAY happen one day that affects farm animals.....maybe they do need to look into the conditions some of these factory farms are in, the recent egg fiasco should be an indicator of that.
Farm Girl

Licking, MO

#28 Oct 7, 2010
It actualy sais domesticated animals kept in "or near" the home of the owner there of. The Ar crowd really likes to try and color things up for their own benefit!
Observer of the Obvious

Peace Valley, MO

#29 Oct 7, 2010
fallen19 wrote:
I will vote No cause it is a stupid bill. My dad has a kennel that he takes very good care of the dogs he has in it. They already have laws that should be enforced by the government and police instead of adding more to it.
Then your dad has nothing to fear from this bill.
Observer of the Obvious

Peace Valley, MO

#30 Oct 7, 2010
Yes

Since: Oct 10

Memphis, TN

#31 Oct 7, 2010
Sweetie wrote:
<quoted text>
If you look up the list of what the bill refers to as domesticated animals, dogs are first on the list, then cattle, sheep, hogs, cats. They do not have to be living in your house, they just have to be maintained by you and rely on you for their care on your property. That means in my fields that is fenced and they are fed grain and hay, so yes they are domesticated animals to which this bill refers to as a pet. No sarcasm intended, if it reads that way.
If you read the proposition you will see it stated clearly that it is intended for dog breeding facilities. Please read it fully.
Farm Girl

Licking, MO

#32 Oct 7, 2010
Proposition B: a ‘dangerous and extreme measure’ Wednesday, 29 September 2010 11:45 Submitted Story
By Congressman Blaine Luetkemeyer

9th District of Missouri

As a small farmer and rancher, I have a personal understanding of the importance of adhering to high standards of animal welfare. Over the last few weeks during my time in the district, I have heard from countless farmers and ranchers who are extremely concerned about the impact of a state ballot measure, Proposition B, in Missouri.

In rural communities where animals have been raised for generations there is real concern that Proposition B, which will appear on the November ballot, will do nothing to address those who keep animals in horrible conditions as long as the animals are not being bred to produce puppies for sale as pets. Many also believe the measure will harm the legal, licensed professional dog breeders in Missouri who produce healthy, happy puppies.

It is my belief that passage of Proposition B would be the first step toward ending the production of livestock in the state of Missouri. The next thing likely to happen is that animal rights groups will go after any hogs, chickens and turkeys in confinement. This is a dangerous and extreme measure. I’ve talked to folks in California and Ohio who are already seeing this kind of thing happen to their farmers and ranchers, and Missouri is next. To be clear, Proposition B is not about helping animals. It is about eliminating an already regulated industry and laying the necessary groundwork to severely restrict livestock production in our state. Passing this measure would impact our farmers in a very negative way.

To the people of the 9th District, taking away our beef, pork and poultry operations would be economically devastating when you consider that more than 35,000 farmers operate 23,000 farms on approximately 6.3 million acres, generating sales that are valued at approximately $1.4 billion for Missouri’s 9th District.

I feel very strongly about where Proposition B is going to take us and I look forward to continuing to discuss the issue. It is important that folks stand up and speak out when they feel that our agricultural industry is being targeted and our farming way of life is threatened.

Since: Oct 10

Memphis, TN

#33 Oct 7, 2010
Vote Yes wrote:
As a puppy mill owner and dog fighting affectionate...I'm voting yes. Under the bill, I no longer am required to provide adequate food and shelter to the puppies. I can save money!!! I just have to remember to get rid of the puppies (feed them to the fighting dogs) before they reach six months. I'll set a reminder on my Iphone.
There are current laws stating that you must have a license to breed. Prop B isn't going to change that law. Where do you people get your information?
fun4ever

United States

#36 Oct 7, 2010
I definitely support this bill. I'd support a bill that outright banned puppy mills. Nothing good ever comes from them. There are enough stray dogs and cats in this country. In fact, I believe the statistics are 6 dogs and 9 cats to each person (including children).
Dog lover

Vilonia, AR

#37 Oct 7, 2010
The actual Bill wrote:
The actual bill can be read here
http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/2010petitions...
Looks like you should go ahead and vote yes as it only applies to female dogs and as long as you breed dogs you say are for "hunting" you don't have to comply.
Where do you read just female dogs?
Fred Cosmoped

Lebanon, MO

#38 Oct 7, 2010
Dog lover wrote:
<quoted text>
Where do you read just female dogs?
Item #3. It states 10 female dogs
http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/2010petitions...
Anon

United States

#39 Oct 7, 2010
It's a nice idea, but I'd rather have our law enforcement (and tax dollars) working on bigger problems than the crazy cat lady down the street whose living room is a couple square feet short of regulation. Besides, if there is something actually harmful going on, wouldn't it fall under existing animal cruelty regulations?
Jim DVM

Shelbina, MO

#40 Oct 7, 2010
Missouri Veterinary Medical Assoc., American Kennel Club, Farm Bureau and a long list of organizations have condemned Prop. B
I am a vet.
This proposal will kill dogs. If you read it states "unfettered access" to the outdoors. This means a dog can go outside at any time. A bred female could walk out in zero temps and whelp. Her litter would freeze to death. If I prescribed this to my clients and it happened, I would be sued for malpractice and lose my license. Skipping breedings in bitches is dangerous. It can lead to a fatal condition known as pyometra. Prop B would make all kennels reduce to 50 dogs. What happens to the excess? Will HSUS find homes for these dogs? 30,000 dogs folks! What do you think will happen? Do you as a voter want to be responsible for killing these dogs? They want to end all purebred breeding. They want to end meat consumption. No more dog shows in St. Louis! Would ya like fries with your McVeggie Burger?

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fun4ever

United States

#41 Oct 7, 2010
Anon wrote:
It's a nice idea, but I'd rather have our law enforcement (and tax dollars) working on bigger problems than the crazy cat lady down the street whose living room is a couple square feet short of regulation. Besides, if there is something actually harmful going on, wouldn't it fall under existing animal cruelty regulations?
It isn't the 'crazy cat lazy'. Arguably, she's doing her part with 9 cats given the cat-to-human ratio. People are breeding dogs in vast amounts, don't provide proper shelter, enough food, or bother with veterinary care. They just suffer until they die because no one will buy a sick dog.
goodness

United States

#42 Oct 7, 2010
Tell me this, all of the "puppy mills" we see getting busted on TV weren't licensed to begin with. So they have already thumbed their nose at the law so why would this bill change that???? IT WON'T! I agree that something needs to be done but the problem lies with those that aren't licensed and this bill doesn't address that but yet it will cost us tax payers almost a million dollars a year. Where is that money going to come from, our state is already broke!
Jim DVM

Shelbina, MO

#43 Oct 7, 2010
this bill will kill the licensed breeders
these are the folks who are following the rules set forth by the USDA
puppy mills are the ones who are not licensed living in the backwooded rural areas.
your licensed folks are the ones producing your service dogs for the blind, handicapped children, police stations, etc..
your family pets
dont'be fooled by HSUS
fun4ever

United States

#44 Oct 7, 2010
Jim DVM wrote:
this bill will kill the licensed breeders
these are the folks who are following the rules set forth by the USDA
puppy mills are the ones who are not licensed living in the backwooded rural areas.
your licensed folks are the ones producing your service dogs for the blind, handicapped children, police stations, etc..
your family pets
dont'be fooled by HSUS
Actually, Homeland Security and other government agencies get at least a portion their dogs from animal shelters. I can't find any reference to service dogs being got from puppy mills. Dogs from puppy mills typically require rehabilitation before they are ever even capable of being a family pet.

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