Spectrum Academy
candycvk

Cub Run, KY

#23 Jun 9, 2007
I worked at SCA when it was under the original owners. You really have to have a lot of patience to work with the kids because they know the system better then we do. Then you reaaly had to care about the kids or you did not last long. I have not heard good things about it since the current owners took over. I know several had quit after the switch saying it wasn't the same.
Working Mom

Elizabethtown, KY

#24 Jun 10, 2007
Jane wrote:
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I know his friend who said Arnold has never payed himself any money from Spectrun, none, no salary or even profits. He said he had put all of his savings into Spectrum and has nothing to show for it, so it seens he is very much for the kids and not for money. Just because some one has made money doesn't mean they don't care for paople. It is kinda stupid to critize him for helping the town where he has spent about a million i hear to help the town and the ignorant people wouldn't use the stuff, coffeee shop, and resteraunt, movie theather. What have you done for your town? You don't know him for sure, Spectrum does help some very troubled kids whose parents don't care and they have a lot of problems. Go help them out don't critize without knowing.
Ben Arnold had nothing to do with the coffee shop, he simply rented the building; and he ripped those people off too. Why do you think they closed? He got greedy and kept raising the rent.
Professor

Glasgow, KY

#25 Jun 10, 2007
Spectrum Care Academy is not a good place to work due to the management of the company. The operation of a facility for children with emotional and behavioral problems is not taught in any U.S. college or university that I am aware of. The training material that they had when I worked there was inadaquate and management was resistant to change. I worked under both the Harves and Arnold. I never met the Harves or Arnold. The kids can be a problem at times for they do have issues that can cause them to loose control and be a danger to themselves and to others. Most of the time, employees caused most of the problems due to the lack of adiquate training. Spectrum could be one of the best facilities in the nation if someone was hired to manage the company and given two to five years to change the system of care and to revamp the management system. It would take this long to do so for any change is trying for the employees and they will fight it. Foothills Academy has a better reputation than Spectrum yet it too has problems as do all companies no matter what they do. Unfortunately Spectrum has large problems that have been in existance for a long time and the people in charge have not been able to correct them. Part of the reason for this is that the remedies that would correct the problems are hard to find and the second is that it apeairs Mr. Arnold does not allow for the amount of time needed to make the changes if the people involve knew how to improve the system not only for the employees but for the children also.
YardSaleLady

Jamestown, KY

#26 Jun 10, 2007
Question wrote:
What about the young girl, that they let get out on the road, a little while over a year ago ? She got ran over twice and was killed. Her family has Mr. Arnold in a lawsuit for wrongful death.
You hear quit a lot about the kids getting away from the workers there. Doesn't sound like a safe place for any kids to me.
So what to u say they do when they let a child outside for fresh air..Tie them to a post??Its easy for a teen to run if they are walking around...Hospitals make profit, schools even make profit..so do you suggest closing them down also?
Professor

Glasgow, KY

#27 Jun 10, 2007
YardSaleLady wrote:
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So what to u say they do when they let a child outside for fresh air..Tie them to a post??Its easy for a teen to run if they are walking around...Hospitals make profit, schools even make profit..so do you suggest closing them down also?
You are correct, everything that is in operation, even non-profit organizations have to make a profit or they would go out of business.
Curious

Russell Springs, KY

#28 Jun 11, 2007
I've read that the Arnold man owns it, but who is in charge of daily operations?
TOTO

Greenbrier, AR

#29 Jun 11, 2007
They have a director there who micro manages her staff.
Soapbox

Russell Springs, KY

#30 Jun 14, 2007
I saw that they had a help wanted ad in one of the local papers this week. Are they hard up for help or what?
Professor

Glasgow, KY

#31 Jun 14, 2007
Spectrum has beeb in need of help from day one regardless of who owned it. The major problem is that the system they have is not a good one. The people that set the system up did the best that they knew how but developing a good system takes a lot of knowledge and you haver to learn this from working at good facilities. Unfortunately, few residential facilities are good facilities. Well managed facilities have a worker turnover of about 10% a year. Spectrum is lucky if it can retain 10% a year.
in the know

Greensburg, KY

#32 Jun 15, 2007
sounds like the professor is an arm chair quarterback. Oh, by the way; I would not choose to refer to myself as an educator if I could not spell.
Professor

Glasgow, KY

#33 Jun 15, 2007
in the know wrote:
sounds like the professor is an arm chair quarterback. Oh, by the way; I would not choose to refer to myself as an educator if I could not spell.
Thanks For your comment! Spelling has always be a problem for me for grammer school through college. Something I can spell today I cannot spell tommorow.This drives me nuts but I know no solution to the problem. As to being an armchair quarterback, I have studied residential facilities and how they operate. There are some general practices that work in all facilities, for nurseing homes to residential facilities like Spectrum. The problem that managers have of facilities for children is that what they need to know is not taught in college; it is something you have to pick up on yiur own. In a fifty mile radius af Columbia there are only four group facilities for children. There are less than one hundred in the entire state. All have their problems. Some have better management than others because they have managers that have learned from working in well run facilities or have hunted the material that tells you how to have a good facility. This material is not easy to find for the most part. The reason that colleges and universites do not teach this information is that there are so few people that go into managing residential facilities. The demand is not there. THis is a problem that is not restricted to Kentucky or the U.S. but is world wide.
in the know

Elizabethtown, KY

#34 Jun 18, 2007
To the professor; I am wondering how you have put your knowledge to work in this area. Maybe you could contribe more than critisizm; or maybe you have and left the field. Sorry for the comment about your spelling; I have difficulties, also. Sounds like you have extensively studies this issue. I wonder why.
Professor

Glasgow, KY

#35 Jun 18, 2007
in the know wrote:
To the professor; I am wondering how you have put your knowledge to work in this area. Maybe you could contribe more than critisizm; or maybe you have and left the field. Sorry for the comment about your spelling; I have difficulties, also. Sounds like you have extensively studies this issue. I wonder why.
I hate what is happening to the children in these homes. They need help and they are not getting it as they should. You and I support these homes through our tax dollars. I read a report several years ago that one of the federal departments put out that stated the group home approach was not working as it should. Having worked in one I am beginning to understand why. The push by government agencies is to move the child into the least restrictive environment as soon as a child shows inprovement. Often, this move comes too soon. Everone, child, adolesent, or adult, goes through two phases of change. The first part is called first order change where a new behavior is trier out then comes second order change where the behavior becomes perminant. Most ot the adolesents that I saw were starting first order change when they went to foster care or back to their families. The old behavior returned almost immediately.Also, a lot of the home do not train their staff members well before they are placed in with the children. Well trained staff is one of the keys to a good home. When I have all my information in order, I intend to talk to key people in the mental health field and in government to try and change the way the state license these type of facilities.My comments have been more to let those that have read these post understand that while Spectrum is a bad example of a residential facility in my mind, that all residential facilities have problems and always will. One child can disrupt the entire home through their behavior. I hope someone at Spectrum begins to do the reseache needed to bring their quality of care and their professionalism up to where it should be. I am not in residential care now but this does not mean that I would not get back into it if the chance came along. There are few oppening in this field for there are few residential facilities in this area.
in the know

Elizabethtown, KY

#36 Jun 19, 2007
I agree with some of your points, especially about the children needing help. However, there are a vast number of factors, which play a vital part into the quality of care. I will be watching for progress in your efforts to influence key people to improve treatment facilities.
Smile

Glasgow, KY

#37 Jun 25, 2007
I was wondering if the Glasgow faciality is any better?
I see they are looking for help
Marcus Shane Morris

Big Timber, MT

#38 Jul 1, 2007
I am a former resident of SCA. I am the 4th boy ever admitted. I spent a great deal of my child hood there in the Columbia campus. You have all seen to much in the newspapers. Beverly Harvey was the greatest teacher I have ever had in my life when it comes to learning how to treat others. I learned how to love at Spectrum.. no not sexual love.. but how to open up my heart to someone else and actually let myself feel. Living there changed my life. You have to keep in mind that Spectrum wasn't designed with crazy kids in mind. It was more of a transitional living place. It was meant to be as close to homelike as possible. For someone like me whom never had a home it was the only one I ever really knew. Yes alot happened there.. but what do you expect when you put the most troubled kids you can't stuff anywhere else.. into a place not made for them? Spectrum did the best it could as a whole. I don't agree with alot of Michael Todd's methods when he took over during my second stint, but other then that it was an important and memorable part of my life. If you didn't live it I would ask you not to comment on it. Many places are far.. far... worse...

fondest memory from Spectrum - going to see the Christmas Carol.. all dressed up with the other kids.. treated like we were worth something..

If you remember me as either Marcus Shane Morris or Shane Michael Kimmel email me at marcmorr6@gndservices.net .. visit my website at www.gndservices.net
Marcus Shane Morris

Big Timber, MT

#39 Jul 1, 2007
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Marcus Shane Morris

Big Timber, MT

#40 Jul 2, 2007
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Marcus Morris

Big Timber, MT

#41 Jul 2, 2007
Bump (singing) Movin on up.. to whoooo da east side.... (or the top of the page)
Marcus Morris

Big Timber, MT

#42 Jul 2, 2007
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