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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 148315 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#87741 Sep 28, 2012
DONT KNOW wrote:
I dont know the subject and dont feel like reading all the stuff above
But Jesus is LORD of all
Acts 2:38
Have you ever READ the bible? In the bible jesus prayed to god, did what god wanted and even begged god to change his mind, asked god to forgive, yet you say jesus is lord???
READ YOUR FUCKING BIBLE IF YOU ARE GOING TO TRY AND PREACH FROM IT

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#87742 Sep 28, 2012
Two men, both seriously ill, occupied the same hospital room. One man was allowed to sit up in his bed for an hour a day to drain the fluids from his lungs. His bed was next to the room's only window. The other man had to spend all his time flat on his back.

The men talked for hours on end. They spoke of their wives and families, their homes, their jobs, their involvement in the military service, where they had been on vacation. And every afternoon when the man in the bed next to the window could sit up, he would pass the time by describing to his roommate all the things he could see outside the window.

The man in the other bed would live for those one-hour periods where his world would be broadened and enlivened by all the activity and color of the outside world. The window overlooked a park with a lovely lake, the man had said. Ducks and swans played on the water while children sailed their model boats. Lovers walked arm in arm amid flowers of every color of the rainbow. Grand old trees graced the landscape, and a fine view of the city skyline could be seen in the distance. As the man by the window described all this in exquisite detail, the man on the other side of the room would close his eyes and imagine the picturesque scene.

One warm afternoon the man by the window described a parade passing by. Although the other man could not hear the band, he could see it in his mind's eye as the gentleman by the window portrayed it with descriptive words. Unexpectedly, an alien thought entered his head: Why should hehave all the pleasure of seeing everything while I never get to see anything? It didn't seem fair. As the thought fermented, the man felt ashamed at first. But as the days passed and he missed seeing more sights, his envy eroded into resentment and soon turned him sour. He began to brood and found himself unable to sleep. He should be by that window - and that thought now controlled his life.

Late one night, as he lay staring at the ceiling, the man by the window began to cough. He was choking on the fluid in his lungs. The other man watched in the dimly lit room as the struggling man by the window groped for the button to call for help. Listening from across the room, he never moved, never pushed his own button which would have brought the nurse running. In less than five minutes, the coughing and choking stopped, along with the sound of breathing. Now, there was only silence--deathly silence.

The following morning, the day nurse arrived to bring water for their baths. When she found the lifeless body of the man by the window, she was saddened and called the hospital attendant to take it away--no words, no fuss. As soon as it seemed appropriate, the man asked if he could be moved next to the window. The nurse was happy to make the switch and after making sure he was comfortable, she left him alone.

Slowly, painfully, he propped himself up on one elbow to take his first look. Finally, he would have the joy of seeing it all himself. He strained to slowly turn to look out the window beside the bed. It faced a blank wall.

Moral of the story:

The pursuit of happiness is a matter of choice...it is a positive attitude we consciously choose to express. It is not a gift that gets delivered to our doorstep each morning, nor does it come through the window. And I am certain that our circumstances are just a small part of what makes us joyful. If we wait for them to get just right, we will never find lasting joy.

The pursuit of happiness is an inward journey. Our minds are like programs, awaiting the code that will determine behaviors; like bank vaults awaiting our deposits. If we regularly deposit positive, encouraging, and uplifting thoughts, if we continue to bite our lips just before we begin to grumble and complain, if we shoot down that seemingly harmless negative thought as it germinates, we will find that there is much to rejoice about.



Good Day All

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#87743 Sep 28, 2012
Two men, both seriously ill, occupied the same hospital room. One man was allowed to sit up in his bed for an hour a day to drain the fluids from his lungs. His bed was next to the room's only window. The other man had to spend all his time flat on his back.

The men talked for hours on end. They spoke of their wives and families, their homes, their jobs, their involvement in the military service, where they had been on vacation. And every afternoon when the man in the bed next to the window could sit up, he would pass the time by describing to his roommate all the things he could see outside the window.

The man in the other bed would live for those one-hour periods where his world would be broadened and enlivened by all the activity and color of the outside world. The window overlooked a park with a lovely lake, the man had said. Ducks and swans played on the water while children sailed their model boats. Lovers walked arm in arm amid flowers of every color of the rainbow. Grand old trees graced the landscape, and a fine view of the city skyline could be seen in the distance. As the man by the window described all this in exquisite detail, the man on the other side of the room would close his eyes and imagine the picturesque scene.

One warm afternoon the man by the window described a parade passing by. Although the other man could not hear the band, he could see it in his mind's eye as the gentleman by the window portrayed it with descriptive words. Unexpectedly, an alien thought entered his head: Why should hehave all the pleasure of seeing everything while I never get to see anything? It didn't seem fair. As the thought fermented, the man felt ashamed at first. But as the days passed and he missed seeing more sights, his envy eroded into resentment and soon turned him sour. He began to brood and found himself unable to sleep. He should be by that window - and that thought now controlled his life.

Late one night, as he lay staring at the ceiling, the man by the window began to cough. He was choking on the fluid in his lungs. The other man watched in the dimly lit room as the struggling man by the window groped for the button to call for help. Listening from across the room, he never moved, never pushed his own button which would have brought the nurse running. In less than five minutes, the coughing and choking stopped, along with the sound of breathing. Now, there was only silence--deathly silence.

The following morning, the day nurse arrived to bring water for their baths. When she found the lifeless body of the man by the window, she was saddened and called the hospital attendant to take it away--no words, no fuss. As soon as it seemed appropriate, the man asked if he could be moved next to the window. The nurse was happy to make the switch and after making sure he was comfortable, she left him alone.

Slowly, painfully, he propped himself up on one elbow to take his first look. Finally, he would have the joy of seeing it all himself. He strained to slowly turn to look out the window beside the bed. It faced a blank wall.

Moral of the story:

The pursuit of happiness is a matter of choice...it is a positive attitude we consciously choose to express. It is not a gift that gets delivered to our doorstep each morning, nor does it come through the window. And I am certain that our circumstances are just a small part of what makes us joyful. If we wait for them to get just right, we will never find lasting joy.

The pursuit of happiness is an inward journey. Our minds are like programs, awaiting the code that will determine behaviors; like bank vaults awaiting our deposits. If we regularly deposit positive, encouraging, and uplifting thoughts, if we continue to bite our lips just before we begin to grumble and complain, if we shoot down that seemingly harmless negative thought as it germinates, we will find that there is much to rejoice about.

Good Day All...


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Satanic Priest

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War, WV

#87747 Sep 28, 2012
LOL in a suit wrote:
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Then why do YOU use it, Christie?
1.) You're no marine. Tell us what Hitler's Dick tastes like.
2.) You're not "always faithful." You're a backslidden heathen. A failed Christian.
Hypocrites are never faithful.
You are asking him about the taste of dick because you are a fat girl who longs to find out but no one will even talk to you? No no, do not cry, just go on a diet and exercise STEP AWAY FROM THE TWINKIE

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Satanic Priest

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#87748 Sep 28, 2012
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>You are asking him about the taste of dick because you are a fat girl who longs to find out but no one will even talk to you? No no, do not cry, just go on a diet and exercise STEP AWAY FROM THE TWINKIE
You really got low down & dirty with that one, didn't you, Monster?

If all Satan could think of to tell you to call me is a "fat girl," then he's not only unoriginal, but he's also a wuss.

I've been called a fat chick by the prince of darkness. These satanists sure are bad asses.

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Yes and Amen

Winchester, KY

#87749 Sep 28, 2012
DONT KNOW wrote:
I dont know the subject and dont feel like reading all the stuff above
But Jesus is LORD of all
Acts 2:38
Amen!
That's all ya gotta know!
:-)

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Yes and Amen

Winchester, KY

#87750 Sep 28, 2012
trusted wrote:
Just wandering did anyone else , live by the bible and the belt growing up? You know like the song. I know I did , and if you were like me you feared both. One could cause you pain, one could cause you faith , but both would help lead you where you needed to be in life. We lived by the bible and learned by the belt,(if you were lucky enough to get the belt, most of the time we got throne switches or willows.)
Here is the lyrics to one great song
P.s. I am ready for the hate...
They were both made of leather, both black and frayed and worn.
I was brought up to respect them since the day that I was born.
One came here from England; it's been handed down for years.
The other one was ordered from a catalog at Sears.
One my mamma read to me till I was well into my teens.
I thought all the other one was for was to hold up daddy's jeans.
Till I told a lie and learned it had another purpose too.
Out behind the she'd my daddy said, "This'll hurt me more than you."
Cause one had my daddy's name on it, the other said King James.
With love they taught us lessons but we feared them both the same.
One led us to heaven and the other left a welt (hurt like hell)
Those were the days when kids were raised with a bible and a belt.
I remember when I was twelve I stole a dime store comic book.
How Mamma read where the scriptures said to take back what I took.
When I refused my daddy grabbed my arm and said,'Come on'
I needed more, he knew, than just Matthew, Mark and Luke and John.
Well sometimes they made me cry, sometimes they made me fightin' mad
And I wished I'd been raised without them like some other children had
But now I'm grown with kids of my own and I know just how they felt
You know it seems to me what the world still needs is a bible and a belt.
Cause one had my daddy's name on it, the other said King James.
With love they taught us lessons but we feared them both the same.
One led us to heaven and the other hurt like hell
Those were the days when kids were raised with a bible and a belt.
A bible and a belt.
Great post!
:-)

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Creation

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#87752 Sep 28, 2012
LOL in a suit wrote:
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"Intelligent Design is the most plausible scientific explanation for life."
ID is a scientific explanation, lol.
"The scientific method is commonly described as a four-step process involving observations, hypothesis, experiments, and conclusion. Intelligent design begins with the observation that intelligent agents produce complex and specified information (CSI). Design theorists hypothesize that if a natural object was designed, it will contain high levels of CSI. Scientists then perform experimental tests upon natural objects to determine if they contain complex and specified information. One easily testable form of CSI is irreducible complexity, which can be discovered by experimentally reverse-engineering biological structures to see if they require all of their parts to function. When ID researchers find irreducible complexity in biology, they conclude that such structures were designed."

http://www.intelligentdesign.org/whatisid.php
Creation

Winchester, KY

#87753 Sep 28, 2012
Yiago wrote:
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Like any other type of person, there are different types of atheists. Some are more aggressive than others.
Atheism is simply not believing in a god. That is it, nothing else.
Regarding your remarks against science, you should first understand what you are criticizing. There is such thing as a "method of cause and effect". And Intelligent Design requires a supernatural component, which is why it is unscientific.
Yes, but the Big Bang without a known cause would have to be deemed supernatural as well. An unintelligent cause of life is supernatural.

“I'll think about it.”

Since: Nov 07

central Florida

#87754 Sep 28, 2012
Creation wrote:
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Yes, but the Big Bang without a known cause would have to be deemed supernatural as well. An unintelligent cause of life is supernatural.
Why? Because you say so?
Just because you can't concieve of something, doesn't make it impossible, or even improbable.
It only means you haven't opened your mind to the possibilities.

You stop with "I don't understand it so goddidit."
Try thinking "I don't understand it but I'm going to keep learning."

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“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

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#87755 Sep 28, 2012
Creation wrote:
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Yes, but the Big Bang without a known cause would have to be deemed supernatural as well. An unintelligent cause of life is supernatural.
Deemed what by whom? I think you've been watching Ghost Hunter marathons a little too much.
Definitions of natural, supernatural, artificial, etc. are human things. Isn't it interesting that divine inspiration results in no new real information?

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“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

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#87757 Sep 28, 2012
Creation wrote:
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"The scientific method is commonly described as a four-step process involving observations, hypothesis, experiments, and conclusion. Intelligent design begins with the observation that intelligent agents produce complex and specified information (CSI). Design theorists hypothesize that if a natural object was designed, it will contain high levels of CSI. Scientists then perform experimental tests upon natural objects to determine if they contain complex and specified information. One easily testable form of CSI is irreducible complexity, which can be discovered by experimentally reverse-engineering biological structures to see if they require all of their parts to function. When ID researchers find irreducible complexity in biology, they conclude that such structures were designed."
http://www.intelligentdesign.org/whatisid.php
Ok, so god of the gaps is scientific, not.

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“There is no god.”

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#87758 Sep 28, 2012
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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Why? Because you say so?
Just because you can't concieve of something, doesn't make it impossible, or even improbable.
It only means you haven't opened your mind to the possibilities.
You stop with "I don't understand it so goddidit."
Try thinking "I don't understand it but I'm going to keep learning."
That sums up ID, we are not sure how that happened so "goddidit" the god of the gaps system.

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“Question, Explore, Discover”

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#87759 Sep 28, 2012
Creation wrote:
<quoted text>"The scientific method is commonly described as a four-step process involving observations, hypothesis, experiments, and conclusion. Intelligent design begins with the observation that intelligent agents produce complex and specified information (CSI). Design theorists hypothesize that if a natural object was designed, it will contain high levels of CSI. Scientists then perform experimental tests upon natural objects to determine if they contain complex and specified information. One easily testable form of CSI is irreducible complexity, which can be discovered by experimentally reverse-engineering biological structures to see if they require all of their parts to function. When ID researchers find irreducible complexity in biology, they conclude that such structures were designed."

http://www.intelligentdesign.org/whatisid.php
Define CSI. Where is it used in science?

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Creation

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#87760 Sep 28, 2012
aWitchintheWoods wrote:
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Why? Because you say so?
Just because you can't concieve of something, doesn't make it impossible, or even improbable.
It only means you haven't opened your mind to the possibilities.
You stop with "I don't understand it so goddidit."
Try thinking "I don't understand it but I'm going to keep learning."
Well by all means, educate me on the causation of the Big Bang. And while you are at it explain how life on earth so improbable actually came about. I took the liberty of doing some of the research for you.

"What about life itself? How did life come about? Could there be life elsewhere? NASA conducted an interesting study. They needed to know the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe. Earth could not afford the danger if one of our space vehicles were to bring back a deadly microbe for which man had no resistance.

NASA hired Yale University’s Harold Morowitz, a theoretics expert. Dr. Morowitz deals with “the laws of large numbers and probabilities.”

Here is how the probabilities theory works: you take a set of circumstances, and you scientifically determine the odds of a certain outcome. For instance, if you flip a coin, you have “even odds” of heads or tails. The more you flip it, the greater the odds are against it coming up “heads”

every time. Once you get to 1/1015, the probability of an event ever happening is negligible. If you get to 1/1050, the event could not have happened even once in 15 billion-years. After studying the complexity of a protein molecule, Dr. Morowitz concluded that the probability of life occurring by chance is 1/10236. 1/10236 takes into account all the atoms in the universe, and the chance that the right ones came together just once to form a protein molecule.

He said “The universe would have to be trillions of years older, and trillions of times larger, for a protein molecule to have occurred by random chance.”

It’s a bit like throwing 4 billion pennies into the air and having them all land heads-up. Evolutionists tell us that given enough time, this could happen. But as we just learned, there wasn’t enough time and there weren’t enough pennies."

Good luck Atheist..

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87762 Sep 28, 2012
Creation wrote:
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Well by all means, educate me on the causation of the Big Bang. And while you are at it explain how life on earth so improbable actually came about. I took the liberty of doing some of the research for you.
"What about life itself? How did life come about? Could there be life elsewhere? NASA conducted an interesting study. They needed to know the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe. Earth could not afford the danger if one of our space vehicles were to bring back a deadly microbe for which man had no resistance.
NASA hired Yale University’s Harold Morowitz, a theoretics expert. Dr. Morowitz deals with “the laws of large numbers and probabilities.”
Here is how the probabilities theory works: you take a set of circumstances, and you scientifically determine the odds of a certain outcome. For instance, if you flip a coin, you have “even odds” of heads or tails. The more you flip it, the greater the odds are against it coming up “heads”
every time. Once you get to 1/1015, the probability of an event ever happening is negligible. If you get to 1/1050, the event could not have happened even once in 15 billion-years. After studying the complexity of a protein molecule, Dr. Morowitz concluded that the probability of life occurring by chance is 1/10236. 1/10236 takes into account all the atoms in the universe, and the chance that the right ones came together just once to form a protein molecule.
He said “The universe would have to be trillions of years older, and trillions of times larger, for a protein molecule to have occurred by random chance.”
It’s a bit like throwing 4 billion pennies into the air and having them all land heads-up. Evolutionists tell us that given enough time, this could happen. But as we just learned, there wasn’t enough time and there weren’t enough pennies."
Good luck Atheist..
That Absolutely Wrong.... If you flip a penny 10 Billion times the odds of it being heads on the next flip is 50/50... Where every you came up with the idea that the more you flip it the less the odds of it landing Heads is blatantly ridiculous and is Not how Probability works... A better explanation using your Penny is throw Enough of them up in the air... Probability is that one of them will land on it's edge...

But in the formation of Life theres even a Kicker in the mix and that is Self Assembly of ever more complex grouping of particles... And the Unknown aspect of what constitutes Life in the first place...

Harold Morowitz is a Creationist that Never even stated what you said... His construct was based on taking a living organism and disassembling it then attempting to calculate the probability of it self assembling into it's original form .. An Idiotic Endeavor...

As for Life to form first Scientifically define Life... Good Luck with that one because so far it has yet to be done... There have been a few Creationist folks that have set out what they think constitutes life but their overviews fail.. You see we are Life as we know it, A virus is Life as we know it, a bacterium living in the radioactive coolant at a nuke power plant is life as we know it, But We only know whats Here that we have Chosen to call Life... We have No Idea what could be called Alive out in the Universe... We can't even be sure if we came face to face with Life out in the Universe we would even be able to recognize it... Much like a Mite would never consider US alive...

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curious

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#87764 Sep 28, 2012
LOL in a suit wrote:
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Seems your brother has inherited your dads genes, the mentally impaired gene for sure. Good luck.
Thanks
I truly think I am more angered at the system who was supposed to stop this and what we pay taxes for. However It appears we pay taxes to get abused...

As the Lawless America movie rolls across the country being filmed I thought I would post the first released trailer for it.

&fe ature=youtu.be

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#87766 Sep 28, 2012
curious wrote:
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Thanks
I truly think I am more angered at the system who was supposed to stop this and what we pay taxes for. However It appears we pay taxes to get abused...
As the Lawless America movie rolls across the country being filmed I thought I would post the first released trailer for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =us1I2diZ2Z8XX&feature=you tu.be
Just like religion, corrupt goverment will always be around. No matter the system power changes people, religion, goverment, management in companies, etc, it will never change.

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Winchester, KY

#87767 Sep 28, 2012
Creation wrote:
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Well by all means, educate me on the causation of the Big Bang. And while you are at it explain how life on earth so improbable actually came about. I took the liberty of doing some of the research for you.
"What about life itself? How did life come about? Could there be life elsewhere? NASA conducted an interesting study. They needed to know the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe. Earth could not afford the danger if one of our space vehicles were to bring back a deadly microbe for which man had no resistance.
NASA hired Yale University’s Harold Morowitz, a theoretics expert. Dr. Morowitz deals with “the laws of large numbers and probabilities.”
Here is how the probabilities theory works: you take a set of circumstances, and you scientifically determine the odds of a certain outcome. For instance, if you flip a coin, you have “even odds” of heads or tails. The more you flip it, the greater the odds are against it coming up “heads”
every time. Once you get to 1/1015, the probability of an event ever happening is negligible. If you get to 1/1050, the event could not have happened even once in 15 billion-years. After studying the complexity of a protein molecule, Dr. Morowitz concluded that the probability of life occurring by chance is 1/10236. 1/10236 takes into account all the atoms in the universe, and the chance that the right ones came together just once to form a protein molecule.
He said “The universe would have to be trillions of years older, and trillions of times larger, for a protein molecule to have occurred by random chance.”
It’s a bit like throwing 4 billion pennies into the air and having them all land heads-up. Evolutionists tell us that given enough time, this could happen. But as we just learned, there wasn’t enough time and there weren’t enough pennies."
Good luck Atheist..
Great post!
They just don't want to get it!

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87768 Sep 28, 2012
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Great post!
They just don't want to get it!
You do realize his post was idiotic right?

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