Cheerleaders in local paper

Cheerleaders in local paper

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Critical Reader

United States

#1 Feb 19, 2012
Does anyone else think it's odd that "The Independent" chose to put the Waterloo High School and Waterloo Junior High School cheerleaders, neither of whom placed at the Illinois Cheerleaders Coaches Association competition, rather than Columbia High School cheerleaders, who won the competition on their division for the third straight year? Anyone have any ideas why Ed and John made this decision? I have an idea...
Critical Reader

United States

#2 Feb 19, 2012
On the front page, by the way. I'm so shocked by the whole thing I was a little flustered when writing my comment. ;)
perry

Saint Louis, MO

#3 Feb 19, 2012
Uhhh, could it possibly be because the Waterloo administration provided them with pictures, while Columbia might not have bothered to? I'd call the Columbia District office, if I was as upset about it as you are
columbia

Waterloo, IL

#4 Feb 19, 2012
or just read a paper that actually had some NEWS
ABC

Chicago, IL

#5 Feb 19, 2012
perry wrote:
Uhhh, could it possibly be because the Waterloo administration provided them with pictures, while Columbia might not have bothered to? I'd call the Columbia District office, if I was as upset about it as you are
Uhhh, newspapers don't sit around and wait to be provided with news. They are supposed to go get it. I guess that's the issue -- The Independent isn't a newspaper. It's a joke, a rag and waste of trees.
ABC

Chicago, IL

#6 Feb 19, 2012
columbia wrote:
or just read a paper that actually had some NEWS
My point exactly.
perry

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Feb 19, 2012
ABC wrote:
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Uhhh, newspapers don't sit around and wait to be provided with news. They are supposed to go get it. I guess that's the issue -- The Independent isn't a newspaper. It's a joke, a rag and waste of trees.
I guess you don't know that schools, Rotary clubs, VFWs and other organizations who want pictures of their activities publicized send them to newspapers - whether they are The Independent, the Post-Dispatch, the New York Times, the Republic-Times and all the rest? Maybe if you had some common sense, you could figure that out without having to be told.

Besides, pictures of high school cheerleaders is not news, it is society fluff. People like to see their kid's picture in the paper, understood. Some schools are better at publicizing their activities than others are. Like I said, complain to the school districts. The more competent ones have a person whose job is to make sure the public knows about all of its activities (except the bad ones that they sweep under the rug.)
Critical Reader

United States

#8 Feb 19, 2012
perry wrote:
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I guess you don't know that schools, Rotary clubs, VFWs and other organizations who want pictures of their activities publicized send them to newspapers - whether they are The Independent, the Post-Dispatch, the New York Times, the Republic-Times and all the rest? Maybe if you had some common sense, you could figure that out without having to be told.
Besides, pictures of high school cheerleaders is not news, it is society fluff. People like to see their kid's picture in the paper, understood. Some schools are better at publicizing their activities than others are. Like I said, complain to the school districts. The more competent ones have a person whose job is to make sure the public knows about all of its activities (except the bad ones that they sweep under the rug.)
Hey, Perry, what journalism school did you go to (ask for your money back)? What newspaper do you work for (I hope they don't read this)?

I'm not complaining about the inept local coverage of The Independent. I'm not upset by it. At all. My kids aren't cheerleaders. But that doesn't mean I don't know right from wrong. Cheerleading is recognized by IHSA as a sport. Why don't you go to one of Columbia's ceremonies to honor their three-time state champion cheerleaders and tell them what they do is merely "society fluff."

I'm done with this thread. I have better things to do that let someone who knows nothing about me (which you couldn't have made clearer even if you had tried) presume to tell me about my "shortcomings." But our little conversation tonight has been fun. And enlightening.:-) Have a great night, Perry.
perry

Saint Louis, MO

#9 Feb 19, 2012
Critical Reader wrote:
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Hey, Perry, what journalism school did you go to (ask for your money back)? What newspaper do you work for (I hope they don't read this)?
I'm not complaining about the inept local coverage of The Independent. I'm not upset by it. At all. My kids aren't cheerleaders. But that doesn't mean I don't know right from wrong. Cheerleading is recognized by IHSA as a sport. Why don't you go to one of Columbia's ceremonies to honor their three-time state champion cheerleaders and tell them what they do is merely "society fluff."
I'm done with this thread. I have better things to do that let someone who knows nothing about me (which you couldn't have made clearer even if you had tried) presume to tell me about my "shortcomings." But our little conversation tonight has been fun. And enlightening.:-) Have a great night, Perry.
Wow! Are your bouts with PMS usually this severe, Critical Reader?

No journalism schooling or newspaper experience required, just common sense is enough to tell you that newspapers publish pictures that are sent to them. Oh, sure, and I really believe you aren't a middle-aged mom, living your life vicariously through your cheerleading kids, too!

And when did I "presume to tell you about your 'shortcomings'?" Do you often hallucinate when you are PMSing (or going through change of life?)
Critical Reader

Chicago, IL

#10 Feb 20, 2012
perry wrote:
<quoted text>Wow! Are your bouts with PMS usually this severe, Critical Reader?

No journalism schooling or newspaper experience required, just common sense is enough to tell you that newspapers publish pictures that are sent to them. Oh, sure, and I really believe you aren't a middle-aged mom, living your life vicariously through your cheerleading kids, too!

And when did I "presume to tell you about your 'shortcomings'?" Do you often hallucinate when you are PMSing (or going through change of life?)
Aw, Perry. I almost envy you. To be able to go through life so thoroughly convinced of what you know that you are blind to how ignorant you really are... If ignorance is bliss, you're the happiest person in Monroe County.
abcd

Columbia, IL

#11 Feb 20, 2012
Critical Reader wrote:
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Aw, Perry. I almost envy you. To be able to go through life so thoroughly convinced of what you know that you are blind to how ignorant you really are... If ignorance is bliss, you're the happiest person in Monroe County.
Thought you were done.
Educated Reader

Waterloo, IL

#12 Feb 20, 2012
Really!! First pictures were sent to the Independent that same time they were sent to the Republic Times. Thank you Critical Reader for pointing out that IHSA recognizes Cheerleading for the sport that it is!! And really Perry "Society Fluff" would you think that if a boys sport let's say football had won a State Championship three years in a row?? I think not! The Columbia Cheerleaders have done something that no other cheer team in the State of Illinois has done let alone any other sport at CHS! They have won both State Championships for three years in a row! Plus you should come to a competition and see how athletic these kids are!
perry

Saint Louis, MO

#13 Feb 20, 2012
Critical Reader wrote:
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Aw, Perry. I almost envy you. To be able to go through life so thoroughly convinced of what you know that you are blind to how ignorant you really are... If ignorance is bliss, you're the happiest person in Monroe County.
As abcd said, critical reader, I thought you were done with this thread.

Ignorance? Granted, I don't have any information about your "cycles," but I am the only person to shed any light on the subject. I merely conjectured that The Independent possibly was provided photos from one cheerleading team and not the other and that this was a logical explanation for why the Waterloo team got the front page attention.
Where was the cheerleading competition held? I think it said it was in Springfield. Obviously, a dinky, local paper like The Independent is not going to have a Springfield office and staff.
Does it not make sense that the Waterloo team took the time to take pictures of their event and send them to the newspaper, while the Columbia team dropped the ball by not sending anything? Some of the people on here seem to think The Independent is a butt-wipe fishwrapper anyway, so why would you want your kid's picture in it?
This thread started with a question, a possible explanation was suggested, and it went into anonymous insult mode from there.
Thanks for dragging me into your little private mud hole, critical reader.
Bull Doggin

Saint Louis, MO

#14 Feb 20, 2012
Because Waterloo cheerleaders are way hotter than Columbia cheerleaders.
Critical Reader

Chicago, IL

#15 Feb 20, 2012
perry wrote:
<quoted text>As abcd said, critical reader, I thought you were done with this thread.

Ignorance? Granted, I don't have any information about your "cycles," but I am the only person to shed any light on the subject. I merely conjectured that The Independent possibly was provided photos from one cheerleading team and not the other and that this was a logical explanation for why the Waterloo team got the front page attention.
Where was the cheerleading competition held? I think it said it was in Springfield. Obviously, a dinky, local paper like The Independent is not going to have a Springfield office and staff.
Does it not make sense that the Waterloo team took the time to take pictures of their event and send them to the newspaper, while the Columbia team dropped the ball by not sending anything? Some of the people on here seem to think The Independent is a butt-wipe fishwrapper anyway, so why would you want your kid's picture in it?
This thread started with a question, a possible explanation was suggested, and it went into anonymous insult mode from there.
Thanks for dragging me into your little private mud hole, critical reader.
You dug that mud hole when you told me I didn't have enough common sense to answer my own question. And you're wallowing in it all by yourself.

And guess what -- ALL the local papers had those pics. The Republic-Times had a staff member at the competition AND the school / team submitted photos to both papers. The Independent didn't put the Columbia pic on the cover solely because the R-T had it on theirs.

Finally, it takes a special kind of uneducated, uncouth, unbearable crassness to immediately resort to blaming a female's difference of opinion with you on her menstrual cycle. That took me to a level of low I'm not proud of, Perry, and it got me off topic. you should be ashamed of yourself as I'm ashamed I let you get to me.

And, to top it all off, let's not forget YOU were flat out WRONG while you were insulting me and my hormones. Both papers had all the info. The I was less concerned with relating news than about Ed's childish and irrational battle with the R-T.

So, Perry, do you have the grace to admit you were wrong and to apologize for taking pot shots?
crack

Chicago, IL

#16 Feb 20, 2012
Really? NEWSPAPERS ARE SUPPOSED TO COME TO YOU. To get the whole story um duh?thats not even the point the because they were sent in. Not only did they place first in the IHSA state competition, but it was also the third year in a row of them doing this! I would like to see you do a handspring backtuck, or even just try or even have the football players try. Bet they can't do it. Waterloo cheerleader probably couldn't either..maybe only one or two on the team can.
perry

Saint Louis, MO

#17 Feb 20, 2012
Critical Reader wrote:
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You dug that mud hole when you told me I didn't have enough common sense to answer my own question. And you're wallowing in it all by yourself.
And guess what -- ALL the local papers had those pics. The Republic-Times had a staff member at the competition AND the school / team submitted photos to both papers. The Independent didn't put the Columbia pic on the cover solely because the R-T had it on theirs.
Finally, it takes a special kind of uneducated, uncouth, unbearable crassness to immediately resort to blaming a female's difference of opinion with you on her menstrual cycle. That took me to a level of low I'm not proud of, Perry, and it got me off topic. you should be ashamed of yourself as I'm ashamed I let you get to me.
And, to top it all off, let's not forget YOU were flat out WRONG while you were insulting me and my hormones. Both papers had all the info. The I was less concerned with relating news than about Ed's childish and irrational battle with the R-T.
So, Perry, do you have the grace to admit you were wrong and to apologize for taking pot shots?
Would it be too hard for you to go back and see that my comment about "common sense" was NOT directed to you, but to the commenter ABC?....Now, I'll await YOUR apology, paranoid critical reader.

You didn't event acknowledge my suggested answer to your question. You weren't really interested in a possible explanation, you just want to vent, right? Never mind about the apology, I really am finished with casting pearls before swine.
ABC / Critical Reader

Chicago, IL

#18 Feb 20, 2012
perry wrote:
<quoted text>Would it be too hard for you to go back and see that my comment about "common sense" was NOT directed to you, but to the commenter ABC?....Now, I'll await YOUR apology, paranoid critical reader.

You didn't event acknowledge my suggested answer to your question. You weren't really interested in a possible explanation, you just want to vent, right? Never mind about the apology, I really am finished with casting pearls before swine.
I was ABC. The comment was to me. I forgot to switch my user name back. I'm sorry that was confusing for you.

Yes, you offered a possible answer to my question. Thank you for taking the time to do that. It just so happened I knew the information you offered was not correct and when I tried to let you know that you told me I'm on my period. Every single thing you wrote about me and the situation was incorrect and a personal attack. I let you know where you were wrong and your only retort was, again, that I must have PMS or be in menopause.

That's highly offensive and misogynistic. Would you talk to your wife or daughter like that? This is an answer from you that I sincerely want to hear.
WOW

Dardanelle, AR

#19 Feb 20, 2012
who cares. its cheerleading. when was the last time someone paid admission to watch a cheerleader.
Jim Bob

Waterloo, IL

#20 Feb 20, 2012
WOW wrote:
who cares. its cheerleading. when was the last time someone paid admission to watch a cheerleader.
Best comment on this topic. Its cheerleading. Thats it.

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