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Loch

Columbia, IL

#1 Mar 31, 2013
Who is responsible for the redevelopment of main street? One of the canidates for mayor came to my house and said he was responsible for it.
Quarry

Saint Louis, MO

#2 Mar 31, 2013
Loch wrote:
Who is responsible for the redevelopment of main street? One of the canidates for mayor came to my house and said he was responsible for it.
You don't need Topix to guide you. If you are concerned about Main St.....be engaged.
Main St needs help....looks as if you could help be part of the dialogue and fix....if
you maybe weren't waiting for someone else to bring a solution. Join the cause.
Thanks.
Ummm

Millstadt, IL

#3 Mar 31, 2013
Greg Crawford! And he did it all without any tax incentives!
Two cents

Ballwin, MO

#4 Mar 31, 2013
Loch wrote:
Who is responsible for the redevelopment of main street? One of the canidates for mayor came to my house and said he was responsible for it.
The mayor did squat. It was done by a private developer. Kevin did zero but he got his picture taken a few times.
reality check

Valmeyer, IL

#5 Apr 1, 2013
I see some people who really don't want Kevin to be Mayor, have his signs on their property,"Fear Factor".
Agreed

Saint Louis, MO

#6 Apr 1, 2013
Greg Crawford first and foremost.

Secondly, the five alderman who opposed Columbia Crossing and took all kinds of hell for it. If Grewe and Hutchinson and Niemietz had got their way and Columbia Crossing would've been built, Main Street would resemble a ghost town. Why rehab when you can build new with huge tax breaks?
mike

Columbia, IL

#7 Apr 1, 2013
so if greg crawford did it without tifs maybe we should make him mayor.
You Are Wrong

Columbia, IL

#8 Apr 1, 2013
Niemietz was a big part of why downtown Columbia was redeveloped. It happened on her and Kevin's watch so deal with it.
observer

Waterloo, IL

#9 Apr 1, 2013
Crawford had plenty of incentives.

First off upgrading the electric wiring and lighting can all be incentives for rebates through the city and IMEA Electrical Efficiency Fund. Columbia has a huge fund set aside for Main Street Beatification, this is all eligible for monies and tax breaks.

Of course, the biggest move is to get the property taxes abated for a set number of years. The City has numerous grants in play or on the approved list for such endeavors. The most often method is to apply for a 50% tax incentive for 5 years. Once approved, the owner can pay only 50% of the taxes for five years, the city, and IL pick up the rest. However, the taxes return after five years. Most owners/developers are keen enough to unload the property after just a few years.

He has done a wonderful job, but please know he did not do it all by himself. The city has plenty of incentives, mostly tax based for developers.
ohh

Millstadt, IL

#10 Apr 1, 2013
You Are Wrong wrote:
Niemietz was a big part of why downtown Columbia was redeveloped. It happened on her and Kevin's watch so deal with it.
You forgot to ad...APRIL FOOL'S!
observer

Waterloo, IL

#11 Apr 1, 2013
http://www.columbiaillinois.com/DocumentCente...

tax incentive for Brockland

http://www.columbiaillinois.com/DocumentView....

or just one for the city itself

http://www.columbiaillinois.com/DocumentView....

or to pay legal fees to a firm outside the city, nothing like keeping our dollars local
We are chumps

Saint Louis, MO

#12 Apr 2, 2013
Thank you observer for the links.

The first link shows our City Council UNANIMOUSLY just gave away 10 years of sales tax rebates totaling $1.5 MILLION(!) to Brockland. And you know what, these are the same folks who unanimously vote to increase the property taxes every one of the rest of us has to pay by 5% each year.

And we keep re-electing these people into office. We really are chumps.
No coincidence

Saint Louis, MO

#13 Apr 2, 2013
It is no coincidence that Main Street did not start to come back until Columbia Crossings was dead. No smart businessman was going to invest in Main Street knowing Columbia Crossing was in the future. If Hutchinson and Niemietz had gotten their way and Columbia Crossing had been built Main St would be nothing but empty buildings now.

I know Kevin and Mary Ellen like to take the credit, but them taking credit for improving Main Street is like Hitler taking credit for expanding the Jewish population. All three really tried to do just the opposite.
beg to differ

Moberly, MO

#14 Apr 2, 2013
if Columbia Crossing had been built, their lease rates would be in the 25.00 per square foot range at the minimum, Where are main street rates right now $7.00 or so

Columbia Crossings success most likely would have raised main street rates as businesses bringing people over to Columbia would have added business to all area's and not just for Columbia Crossings

non businesses people trying to analyze business gets nothing but uneducated answers that are simply preposterous.

Regarding the Brockland sales tax agreement, if we give him nothing and he chose to not locate here, what have we gained? If we give Brockland 150K per year and he generated 300K per year in taxes which is better?
Nothing or 150K to the city of Columbia?

anotheranother

Garden City, MI

#15 Apr 3, 2013
beg to differ wrote:
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Regarding the Brockland sales tax agreement, if we give him nothing and he chose to not locate here, what have we gained? If we give Brockland 150K per year and he generated 300K per year in taxes which is better?
Nothing or 150K to the city of Columbia?
If...what if the first five years he loses money to cover building expenses, and how much of our tax agreement dollars are going to pay off his Cahokia departure. Remember Cahokia also gave him a tax deal, when they did not renew it, he dangled the carrot in front of our great council.

This dealership will be less than a mile from Weber, so how much sense does that make?
Cool

United States

#16 Apr 3, 2013
It is proven dealerships do better in clusters people love it go right from one to another to shop.
TKO

Saint Louis, MO

#17 Apr 3, 2013
Losing money is on him. If he sells cars and generates $1,000 worth of sales tax, we get $300. If he sells cards and generates $100,000 worth of sales tax, we get $30,000. If his expenses are more than what he brings in on sales...doesn't matter.
mike

Columbia, IL

#18 Apr 3, 2013
if he was able to generate enough sales here in columbia to generate 300k in taxes, he would have moved here without a tif.
Please

Saint Louis, MO

#19 Apr 3, 2013
Wow, if you really think Columbia Crossing was going to HELP Main Street you must be drinking the same kool-aid as Hutchinson and Niemietz and have absolutely zero powers of observation. Everywhere in the country when big box moves in Main Steet dies. Columbia would be no different. If it happens through free enterprise I'm OK with it, but it is wrong to use tax dollars to subsidize it.
Columbian

Montgomery, AL

#20 Apr 4, 2013
Let me get this straight, Kevin is Mayor and should be concerned for the developement of the city. Alderman should first take their ward as the main concern and then the rest of the City? Why has Mary Ellen Niemietz not given one thought to her ward, except to pretend she has your intrest so you will vote for her. Flooding every time it rains on Valmeyer and Veterans, traffic problems at Rt 3 and Veterans, crumbling streets in ward 4, more vacant retail space than Main St., blighted areas in her ward, and yet she is more concerned with a Pet Project to spend millions of dollars on a biking and walking trail, and to get voted back in so both Mary Ellen and Her Husband can go to Chigago on the taxpayer dime for a conference for Mayors? She could care less with what she was voted in to do. Time to go to Both Kevin and Mary Ellen.

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