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Explore Columbia Proposed Pedestrian and Bike Trail

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SayNoToExploreCo lumbia

Saint Louis, MO

#1 Sep 1, 2012
Columbia's "Play Commission" are in the planning stages of designing a pedestrian and bike facility to be built in Columbia. They are attempting to "improve walking and bicycling conditions" throughout Columbia. As a regular walker/runner, I truly feel this is a waste of time, money, and efforts. There are already plenty of places to safely walk and bike in Columbia. In a time when our whole country is financially strained it seems foolish to spend the any money, even if it is grant money, on a walking or biking trail connecting all of Columbia. Trails going through a neighborhood that is connected to major streets and highways will only invite unwanted strangers and attention to citizens’ homes and properties. I would like to propose a pedestrian/bike trail through Mr. Ellis's and the rest of "The Play Commission's" backyard and see how they would like it.

Explore Columbia is wasteful spending and only going to invite unwanted traffic through residential neighbors. Residents against "Explore Columbia" please feel free to post opinions and comments or email [email protected] om

Also please attend the 2nd Open House at City Hall September 6th, 2012 from 6 to 8pm to show your support in STOPPING progress of the proposed pedestrian/bike trail!
Bucky

Millstadt, IL

#2 Sep 1, 2012
Paranoid.
Woof woof

Millstadt, IL

#3 Sep 1, 2012
That way more people who cant read can take their pets on leashes along someones back yard so it can potentially get tangled up with bicycles or shit on the walking trail instead of walking through town. Just like at the city park where it is clearly marked "no pets" on the trail. Hooray.

Keep it cheap, just paint bike lanes in town. Avoid some Missouri bicyclist groups from riding in the middle of the road. Most locals, like me, stay way to the right and ride in single file. I agree, money could be spent more wisely elsewhere.
Resident

Granite City, IL

#4 Sep 2, 2012
SayNoToExploreColumbia wrote:
Columbia's "Play Commission" are in the planning stages of designing a pedestrian and bike facility to be built in Columbia. They are attempting to "improve walking and bicycling conditions" throughout Columbia. As a regular walker/runner, I truly feel this is a waste of time, money, and efforts. There are already plenty of places to safely walk and bike in Columbia. In a time when our whole country is financially strained it seems foolish to spend the any money, even if it is grant money, on a walking or biking trail connecting all of Columbia. Trails going through a neighborhood that is connected to major streets and highways will only invite unwanted strangers and attention to citizens’ homes and properties. I would like to propose a pedestrian/bike trail through Mr. Ellis's and the rest of "The Play Commission's" backyard and see how they would like it.
Explore Columbia is wasteful spending and only going to invite unwanted traffic through residential neighbors. Residents against "Explore Columbia" please feel free to post opinions and comments or email [email protected] om
Also please attend the 2nd Open House at City Hall September 6th, 2012 from 6 to 8pm to show your support in STOPPING progress of the proposed pedestrian/bike trail! First of all- your not a biker so your opinion is slided. Buiking on mainstreet or on side streets isnt set up and a hazard to motorists and bikers. This grant should really be county wide,just make a trail that safely gets bikers from edge of town columbia to the rural levee roads. Bikers from all over alreayd come there because of less traffic there. the only problem is that stetch on valmeyer road which is no shoulder and can get killed riding along there to get to lavee roads. This already connects surrounding towns in monroe county but is the cheapest and smartest to do when bikers are already preferrably riding there. I bike and dont want to bike on a trail thru town. Thru someones back yard. From Market place trail would only need to be 1.5 miles long. Problem is poeple in charge of proposing this are not really bikers, ask people who are already using the streets and see what makes more sense.Ill vote to change the proposal, not to ban it. It does promote business, they come from all over to bike and eat and drink. But theyre out in rural areas not hurting anyone. Sharing a trail with moms and kids in strollers and older people scared of gettigng run over by a bike is alreasdy a problem with other trails in existence like - Grants trail and others in area. Think people use some damn common sense.
First of all you dont bike, your opinion is slided. The trail should be a county grant it could connect whats already out there. Trail should be 1.5 miles long, leave market place area where bikers are already commuting but there is no shoulder now. You can get killed riding along valmeyer road. Having to share a bike trail with moms and strollers and older [people scared of getting run over by biker is nonsense.This promotes buinsess they come from all over to eat drink and bike in rural areas and not hurting anyone. This is the cheapest and using green area already there, getting bikes away from cars, give us the trail to get safely to the bike roads. People proposing this are not bikers. Use some damn common sense for petes sake.
boom

Millstadt, IL

#5 Sep 2, 2012
i am excited about the bike trail idea. i know i heard of a plan to pave the gravel trail that used to be the railroad tracks - not sure if this is the same thing or not? anyways, i like to bike with my kids, pulling a trailer behind me, and taking them out on main street is nerve-racking with the parked cars and constant traffic. i look forward to having a space to ride safely.

and if it is grant money i am not sure that you can really bitch about it. it is money we can't spend elsewhere, and it gives a few more jobs to the area. and i don't think a bike path will promote any more strangers lurking than the gravel trail that the teens use now. brining people to town is good for local businesses, because bikers have money.
Ms N Funds

Waterloo, IL

#6 Sep 2, 2012
Who is handling the money?
But

Saint Louis, MO

#7 Sep 3, 2012
boom wrote:
i am excited about the bike trail idea. i know i heard of a plan to pave the gravel trail that used to be the railroad tracks - not sure if this is the same thing or not? anyways, i like to bike with my kids, pulling a trailer behind me, and taking them out on main street is nerve-racking with the parked cars and constant traffic. i look forward to having a space to ride safely.
and if it is grant money i am not sure that you can really bitch about it. it is money we can't spend elsewhere, and it gives a few more jobs to the area. and i don't think a bike path will promote any more strangers lurking than the gravel trail that the teens use now. brining people to town is good for local businesses, because bikers have money.
I'm sure you would be against it if such trail was suppose to run through your backyard where your children play! Go to city park where taxpayers have paid for that beautiful trail and ride bikes with your children or Metter Park.
Bikers

Saint Louis, MO

#8 Sep 3, 2012
The bike riders are going to continue to ride in the bottoms so why build a trail they are not going to use?
useless

Waterloo, IL

#9 Sep 3, 2012
Land owners should check the recorder of deeds. Many railroads, when buying the property, had a clause that allowed the previous owners first rights at buying the property back when abandoned. We tax payers spent $250,000 on a bike trail on the cahokia levees and in 5 years, I have seen 4 riders on it. These bikers are never satisfied. They won't ride the trails. They have to wear their slick little outfits, as if the air resistance really matters, and ride the most dangerous roads in the county. What percentage of Columbians actually ride bikes anyway? Most are from other areas. I say no more bike trails until they use the millions of dollars worth of trails they already have.
For it

Columbia, IL

#10 Sep 3, 2012
I will be at the meeting and will be all for it !!!!
Bucky

Millstadt, IL

#11 Sep 3, 2012
Wow! Extreme paranoia!
boom

Millstadt, IL

#12 Sep 3, 2012
if my back yard was up against that railroad track i would beg for somebody to come through and pave/light it. how can you possibly think it is safe as is? i=perhaps if you knew what was going on back there right now you'd fence your yard tomorrow.

what park of metter park do you want people to bike on? the little windy sidewalk around the playground? seriously? and doesn't the path at the city park have steps? the closest thing we have to a safe place to ride is the legion parking lot on weekdays!

i am not saying that this is sooo important that it must happen, but if we are getting FREE grant money for it i say "amen!". i'll use it!
Broke bridge

Waterloo, IL

#13 Sep 3, 2012
They should use that money to fix Gall rd, it's one big piece of shit. Barricades have been on the bridge for months now.
Who dat

Waterloo, IL

#14 Sep 4, 2012
Broke bridge wrote:
They should use that money to fix Gall rd, it's one big piece of shit. Barricades have been on the bridge for months now.
I called Alderman Reis about the barricades on the bridge in disrepair and asked when they would be fixed, His reply was, where is Gall road?
hmmm

Saint Louis, MO

#15 Sep 4, 2012
while they are fixing the road, how about painting a line down the middle so the yahoos in the trucks know which side is thiers.
almost hit

Waterloo, IL

#16 Sep 4, 2012
hmmm wrote:
while they are fixing the road, how about painting a line down the middle so the yahoos in the trucks know which side is thiers.
I agree they need to fix Gall Road.I have to almost run off the road half the time to avoid being hit by all the cars speeding like crazy down the middle of Gall Road. However, think a bike path in Columbia is a great idea. Really enjoy riding with my family, but feel the town is really just so dangerous to ride in. It is time we become more progressive in this town. We enjoy our sports teams. Why can't we also enjoy just plain old family activities such a bike riding in a safe locale?
Dang it

United States

#17 Sep 6, 2012
Forgets the dang bike trail. We needs to puts up a fence to keep out the dang colords! Or we can build a trail for all the fat girlies to leave town on who bring them in.
bike rider

Waterloo, IL

#18 Sep 6, 2012
If you want to see stupid don't look any farther than your aldermen Niemietz and Ebersohl. Now they want bike trails. I love bike trails and we should have more. In fact the old RR right of way would have been an awesome bike/walking trail/connector thru the center of town. But when this would've been easy to do, Stupid #1 and Stupid #2 gave the land away to a developer (Gedern). Now they want trails - only now it's after they've already given away this huge section of the trail. So let's waste money trying to build something now that we could've done easily and better before. Now that's stupid!
bike rider

Waterloo, IL

#19 Sep 6, 2012
And if you want to fix Gedern, that's easy. Just tell Stupid #1 and Stupid #2 to stop wasting our tax dollars on their bad decisions - like having to pay a legal settlement of $400,000 to STS because of their bad decisions.
Gather_Facts

Saint Louis, MO

#20 Sep 7, 2012
I support the opposition to the multi-purpose walking trail because the total picture of this project is not clear. We do not know the total cost of the project, how much will be covered by the grant, how much by the City of Columbia and later who will cover the expenses of the maintenance of the trails. Since when, a major project like this is decided by surveys here and there and not through a formal vote of the residents of Columbia with knowledge of the facts of how much is going to come out of our pocket in the form of property taxes. With all respect, wake up people do not go for the “free” money without knowing all the facts or am I missing something, is this info available somewhere?

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