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#1
Sep 4, 2010
 
pastor or dictator? talk amongst yourselves.
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#2
Sep 4, 2010
 
A pastor who cares a great deal about the members of his church. He also has a son about to undergo a very serious surgery so find a new topic.Enough is enough!
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Sep 5, 2010
 
He has been a great help to me in troubling times. Dictator??? Make an appointment and go sit down and talk to him. Why would you even post that. He is a true Christian that is all about helping this county! We are very blessed to have him in our little town! Keep up the great works Bro Carl!!!!
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Sep 9, 2010
 
LEAVE THE PREACHERS ALONE!!!!!
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Sep 9, 2010
 
just the facts wrote:
pastor or dictator? talk amongst yourselves.
Do you even know him? He's a great preacher that cares very much about everyone. Shame on you for being ugly. He has talked with me and helped alot during some problems that I was having. Maybe you should try having a conversation with him and get to know him before you judge.
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Sep 13, 2010
 
FBC wrote:
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Do you even know him? He's a great preacher that cares very much about everyone. Shame on you for being ugly. He has talked with me and helped alot during some problems that I was having. Maybe you should try having a conversation with him and get to know him before you judge.
the hell with you
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#7
Nov 3, 2010
 
I agree! He is a GREAT MAN and PREACHER! I love him very much! He is also an inspiration to me! I am his SPINNING teacher, and am happy to see a man that is 71 years old, care about his health!
Go Talk wrote:
He has been a great help to me in troubling times. Dictator??? Make an appointment and go sit down and talk to him. Why would you even post that. He is a true Christian that is all about helping this county! We are very blessed to have him in our little town! Keep up the great works Bro Carl!!!!
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Dec 1, 2010
 
DISGUSTED wrote:
<quoted text>the hell with you
You know that comment would upset some people, but I am just going to pray for you and hope God leads you in the right direction. All I did was say what I thought. but you just bashed me for it.
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Dec 2, 2010
 

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Carl has a history of prostelytizing from other congregations or attempting to hinder the ministries of other churches in the area. Carl and the overwhelming majority of FBC do not participate in the ministerial events of Miller County (though the congregation probably would if they had a leader who would support the body of Christ and not just his denomination and church). I feel sure it is his private policy NOT to be involved. The only time he's ever allowed FBC to do something with the community body of Christ in Miller Co. was when the ministerial fellowship granted them the opportunity to host a Thanksgiving service and he preached. He hasn't been seen since in furthuring the kingdom goal beyond his church's walls.

To the members of FBC or anyone else who may want to comment: I don't need to have a conversation or get to know him in order to make and prove that these statements are fact. That proof comes from the obvious. That is unless you FBC folks can show where your pastor has participated in the ministerial fellowship, community worship services, and the greater body of Christ in Miller County.

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Dec 2, 2010
 
Respond Please wrote:
Carl has a history of prostelytizing from other congregations or attempting to hinder the ministries of other churches in the area. Carl and the overwhelming majority of FBC do not participate in the ministerial events of Miller County (though the congregation probably would if they had a leader who would support the body of Christ and not just his denomination and church). I feel sure it is his private policy NOT to be involved. The only time he's ever allowed FBC to do something with the community body of Christ in Miller Co. was when the ministerial fellowship granted them the opportunity to host a Thanksgiving service and he preached. He hasn't been seen since in furthuring the kingdom goal beyond his church's walls.
To the members of FBC or anyone else who may want to comment: I don't need to have a conversation or get to know him in order to make and prove that these statements are fact. That proof comes from the obvious. That is unless you FBC folks can show where your pastor has participated in the ministerial fellowship, community worship services, and the greater body of Christ in Miller County.
It is so sad tht he is such a self-centered man that he doesn't want FBC to participate in community services. They sure do miss out on a lot of things done to glorify our LORD. Maybe one day the people of FBC will wise up. It was never like that before Carl came to town. Yes, I use to be a member there, but no longer. Just don't like someone inflicting there beliefs on me and expect me to follow!! Not for me. I think he is a good person, just not a good leader. Colquitt FBC will open there eyes soon, just you wait and see!! This is my opnion as well as others!!
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#11
Dec 3, 2010
 
Its a shame that an awesome preacher/teacher like Stanley Phillips got tied up with them. He could have done a lot of good in a smaller, more struggling church than to plop down at FBC. He could have really spread his wings in Miller County and done a lot more for the kingdom of believers if he hadnt gotten saddled by Marshall. However, once FBC gets a good taste of Phillips maybe they will realize what they have been missing all along!
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Dec 3, 2010
 
Respond Please wrote:
Carl has a history of prostelytizing from other congregations or attempting to hinder the ministries of other churches in the area. Carl and the overwhelming majority of FBC do not participate in the ministerial events of Miller County (though the congregation probably would if they had a leader who would support the body of Christ and not just his denomination and church). I feel sure it is his private policy NOT to be involved. The only time he's ever allowed FBC to do something with the community body of Christ in Miller Co. was when the ministerial fellowship granted them the opportunity to host a Thanksgiving service and he preached. He hasn't been seen since in furthuring the kingdom goal beyond his church's walls.
To the members of FBC or anyone else who may want to comment: I don't need to have a conversation or get to know him in order to make and prove that these statements are fact. That proof comes from the obvious. That is unless you FBC folks can show where your pastor has participated in the ministerial fellowship, community worship services, and the greater body of Christ in Miller County.
AND.........your point is??? What does that have to do with him being a great Christian man and having peoples faith and Christianity first at hand?? If I were a paid pastor, my first responsibility would be to my church congregation. The CEO of Coke isn't going to look out for Pepsi first. He/She is going to look out for his own company. I am missing your point somewhere. Sorry
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#13
Dec 3, 2010
 
I find it very pathetic that people are so miserable and pathetic that they have to come on here and bash the preacher. He is one of the best preachers and man that I know. Maybe you should learn some respect or be more of a christian and quit bashing a man that is responsible for MANY people accepting Christ into their hearts! I think he is a awesome christian, preacher, friend, etc. I am sorry that you and whoever else feel differently.
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Dec 5, 2010
 
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AND.........your point is??? What does that have to do with him being a great Christian man and having peoples faith and Christianity first at hand?? If I were a paid pastor, my first responsibility would be to my church congregation. The CEO of Coke isn't going to look out for Pepsi first. He/She is going to look out for his own company. I am missing your point somewhere. Sorry
Your post makes it clear that you see other churches as competition. This attitude couldn't be any more un-Christ-like. You used Coke vs. Pepsi to illustrate. It isn't Baptist vs. Free Will Baptist vs. Pentacostal vs. Methodist vs. etc... If one's first responsibility was to their church congregation as if that was your ONLY responsibility, then that person has vastly missed Jesus' commission. It definitely wasn't for competition and exclusivity among denomonational lines. I'm not sure how that could be any more clear so if you are still missing my point, I'm not sure I can help you, though that speaks volumes about your God perspective.
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Dec 5, 2010
 
Response Please wrote:
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Your post makes it clear that you see other churches as competition. This attitude couldn't be any more un-Christ-like. You used Coke vs. Pepsi to illustrate. It isn't Baptist vs. Free Will Baptist vs. Pentacostal vs. Methodist vs. etc... If one's first responsibility was to their church congregation as if that was your ONLY responsibility, then that person has vastly missed Jesus' commission. It definitely wasn't for competition and exclusivity among denomonational lines. I'm not sure how that could be any more clear so if you are still missing my point, I'm not sure I can help you, though that speaks volumes about your God perspective.
No, YOU missed the whole point. Any pastor is going to look after his own flock first. That is the point of him being in that church. They hired him to do that. Then, as a group, they can choose to venture out to do the county wide things or NOT. And someone's GOD perspective is just that........theirs! America, freedom of religion. No ones beliefs has to be the same as yours, or his or hers or anyones. Who are you to judge how many volumes someones perspective speaks?? You may need to look into your own heart
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Dec 5, 2010
 
Carl Marshall is a normal man that God called to be a pastor. He isn't perfect. Just forgiven. Here is the real point: WHO CARES what kind of "Community Oneness" he involves himself in. MANY people have been saved and will NOT live eternally in HELL because of what GOD has done through this man. Get OVER YOURSELF! He doesn't have to be "ONE" with the "Global movement" rampant in our little community. WAKE UP PEOPLE. LIVES are important.
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Dec 5, 2010
 
Gods Man wrote:
Carl Marshall is a normal man that God called to be a pastor. He isn't perfect. Just forgiven. Here is the real point: WHO CARES what kind of "Community Oneness" he involves himself in. MANY people have been saved and will NOT live eternally in HELL because of what GOD has done through this man. Get OVER YOURSELF! He doesn't have to be "ONE" with the "Global movement" rampant in our little community. WAKE UP PEOPLE. LIVES are important.
I agree completely!
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Dec 7, 2010
 
To Judgment:
I will agree with you on one thing, a pastor should look after his own flock first. This is not something that my posts have disavowed at all. You are also right that the church can then as a group, decide to venture out and be involved with what God is doing beyond their walls (what I mean is, your church has the earthy right to take that attitude -- that doesnít mean God approves and will not hold those accountable for it -- and further, any rational thought will show the pastor's outlook and influence on this subject bears huge responsibility for shaping such an attitude and direction within the church-as is evidenced in the case of Carl Marshall). Where we would part ways is the question,ďdoes a church have a responsibility to be involved in their communityís economical ministryĒ(other than from a self-serving point of view, as proved by the one and only time FBC chose to be involved by hosting a community service and Carl preaching -- I ask you: would you deny that his motivation was a self-serving one; something Christ would look upon with displeasure and if you would deny, has FBC or he been a part before or since?). That evidence stands upon its own merit and is undeniable. He hasnít and he isnít. And that attitude stands in contrast with what the scriptures teach about unity among believers. Iím not trying to make you angry or to embitter you by laying out these facts that most probably will not sit well with you or Godís Man. No one likes to hear such, but that doesnít mean it shouldnít be addressed. And the fact that you have a different opinion and argue that you can believe differently than I do, while true on one level, is erroneous on another. The Bible is quite clear (with NO support of denominationalism of any kind). Shutting yourself off from the body of Christ is not in line with the will of God. You can gladly have a different opinion than me and believe different than me. I welcome you to, where the scriptures donít have us agree. But dare you have a different opinion than Christ? Dare you believe differently than God would have you? If so, you need a different group to join, for a Christian (disciple of Christ) is not for you. Might I suggest the Swamp Gravy folks, or a Rotary club, or even the volunteer fire department? Any other civic group might suit your needs. But when it comes to being a Christian, your opinion had best be in agreement with Godís. And on this topic (the unity of believers--not denominations), the scripture is quite clear. And Iím afraid that it stands in contrast to what youíve posted.
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Dec 7, 2010
 
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I for one, even though from a Pentecostal denomination, gladly promote and participate with other denominations and ministries (and not in some New Age, universalistic approach that Gods Man slyly implies. As a part of the body of Christ, the hand canít say to the eye or the foot,ďI donít need youĒ. You apparently feel differently and that it is an option (I quote you:ďthey can choose to venture out to do the county wide things or NOTĒ). But I would have to point out that this stands in direct opposition to the prayer Jesus prayed in John 17. It is also in contrast to Paulís exhortation to believers in 1 Cor. Chapters 1 and 3. According to you FBCís congregational attitude apparently need not bear anything of the truth "to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace" found in Ephesians 4:3. I may also point out noted Baptist preacher Charles Spurgeonís quote:ďI look forward with pleasure to the day when there will not be a Baptist living! I hope that the Baptist name will soon perish, but let Christ's name last forever." Unfortunately, Spurgeon didnít get what he hoped for. There are too many Carl Marshalls that put the Baptist name before Christís (if you wish to prove me wrong, I look forward to seeing you and your pastor at the next community ministerial association service:) and I think that group of pastors who oversee it meet on Tuesdayís at Helenís, so make sure he rises and shines early to go!). Again, itís not a social club or a competition in which we must jockey over members to make ourselves look successful (to which Marshall has built a reputation of doing by proselytizing other congregationsí members - something that neither you nor Godís Man have answered to or you either ignore and/or deny the fact).
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Dec 7, 2010
 
To God's Man:
Who cares? Jesus cares.

"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one: I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.(John 17:20-23)

There are many others, but this should be ample to show you that it isn't me and my opinion but Jesus and His opinion. I mean you no disrespect but to argue with this point is to argue with Him. I have no doubt that Carl has made a good and lasting impact on many lives and that people have come to a saving faith in Christ through him. I know he also is human and has his faults. But having faults isn't an excuse for being sloppy and lazy with the things we've been called to do by Christ. And it isn't a reason we should not spur one another on towards all that God would have us to be (when you spur a horse, I don't imagine the horse likes it, but it would be wise for him to respond - do you see the illustration?)

And as for passing judgment: don't be fooled or lulled into shallow thinking by believing that wise counsel against erroneous action is judgment. The two are not the same. For you (if you are a follower of Christ and the sincere gospel) warn people of their destruction by not accepting Christ as their savior, no? Does this mean you are judging them? Certainly not! This means you are warning them of a coming judgment which they can avoid. I am simply doing the same for Carl and his fellowship. Judgment will begin with the house of God and He will indeed hold accountable nations, churches(congregations), individuals, and particularly pastors for their actions and that which they've been given and entrusted with.

You've counseled me to look in my own heart. That is wise! I will do that and will not view your advice as a reproach in the least! You should do the same! But look not only in your heart, but look in the scriptures. I suspect that what you have posted has more to do with your own thoughts and feelings, rather than being founded on scripture.

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