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Just Wondering

United States

#1 Feb 1, 2012
I see that my fair city of Raton, New Mexico has hired this man as our new city manager. I was just wondering what you folks thought about him and if he was any good at his job?
WestTexan

Dardanelle, AR

#2 Feb 1, 2012
Glad he is going. He did some good things for the City, but sure glad he is leaving. Man is not real honest if you ask me. You might ask the people over in Paris, Texas what they thought of him. Good luck.
Ratonian

Santa Fe, NM

#3 Feb 5, 2012
He's not here (in Raton) yet, so we can't comment on his job performance. He showed up just long enough to sign some paperwork; then, went back to you folks, from the look of it. Our paper (Raton Range) says he hadn't yet resigned from your town, last they heard. Any idea if/when he's resigned from the Colorado City, Texas job? I ask because we have elections coming in March (6th, I think it was) that very well may remove quite a few of our city commissioners - and Pete's already expressed concerns about that uncertainty, even months ago.

His starting date here is still uncertain; and he said it would depend on what your folks do, when he turns his resignation in, for Colorado City.

He said (again, to our local newspaper) that Feb 27th would be the earliest possible date he'd be starting, in Raton; but it would depend, etc.... making me wonder if he has any intention of making a move to Raton, until after March 6th?(When he would be better able to judge if the new folks were going to retain him: since they'd be new replacements for those few who hired that man.)

I'm also curious to know if he's leaving your town on good terms; or if he's essentially being asked to go. Sounds like some of you folks are happy to see him go; but that doesn't necessarily mean he's bad enough to have been forced out, or whatever. I don't want to read too much into too little.

Know also that someone else started another thread, about Pete Kampfer, under Colorado City. You may want to check for "news" over there, too, as there's more going on over there, than here.
Informed

Abilene, TX

#4 Feb 6, 2012
The Colorado City Council meets tonite (February 6th) to accept his resignation. To be fair, he has helped to accomplish some good things while he was here. BUT, he trampled on alot of really good people in this town while doing that. He does not have many friends and I think most are very thankful to see him go. He is a perfect example of a sociopath.
Informed

Dardanelle, AR

#5 Feb 7, 2012
His last day here is February 21st. The man had alot of nerve to get up and make a speech about honesty and integrity, of which he knows nothing about. Good riddance.
Ratonian

Santa Fe, NM

#7 Feb 8, 2012
Thanks, Informed. Much appreciated!

Unfortunately, from what I've read in various threads over here (under Colorado City, TX), your succinct summary of the man's worst perceived qualities is just about what our (Raton's) city commission WOULD ram through, and hire, just before they (presumably) lost power, themselves.

Can you folks tell me anything more about the good things he did?

Was the "reclaim colorado city" web (YouTube, etc.) stuff a part of that?(Good stuff, versus bad stuff?) Or just a (costly?) puff piece he had made to be able to show other future / prospective employers what he's capable of? What that video on YouTube said, among other things, was that they (the city's management) caused 50 homes that were in really bad shape, to be bulldozed / otherwise destroyed, under (apparently) "code enforcement" rules. That sounded highly contraversial, to me. He went on to say, verbally, in person, that the video didn't show the whole picture, because about 100 additional (out-of-code, or whatever) houses were also destroyed. Doing the math: 150 homes, in a town that we've heard only has about 4000 people in it!? That seems like an awful lot of dwellings destroyed! And to hear little hue and cry about it, here, makes me wonder what's really going on? Either all of those property owners thought it was a good idea for the city government to bulldoze or otherwise destroy dwellings they owned, or there is a lot of talk going on, with nothing backing it up? Can anyone shed additional light on that? Oh, this, too: after he said that those 100 additional homes had been knocked down, for beautification or whatever, he said something like, "Now, there is oil interest in the area"... which struck me as a highly odd thing to say, since drilling into the ground to get natural resources out of it, depends not one tiny little bit on what houses look like, above the ground. That all sounded really bizarre!

I'm hoping someone would be more specific, too, on what good the man has done, in your town. Compared to the nitwits we are saddled with, ourselves, he doesn't sound nearly as bad (so far) as the worst of those folks; but I very much worry that this town can't take a whole lot more bad management!

Again, folks: thanks for giving your take on this!
Ratonian

Santa Fe, NM

#8 Feb 8, 2012
I just posted what you said, over on the Raton Political blog, at:

http://norteno1.blogspot.com/

... only to find there's apparently an abundance of people who empathize with "sociopaths" running loose, over here in Raton - since one of the people that responded to Informed's quotes, above, had this to say about what he or she had said:

"Stomping on people. Good for him. I think that is what this town needs. Stomping on people who do nothing but complain..stomping on the drug users...stomping on the home owners with junk piled high around their homes. For you info, I have met the man and was impressed! He has 2 years to clean the place up and maybe force the trash into the dumpsters and on down the road. Too bad Raton has such a problem with people who are professional in what they do and hold people accountable. Stay off topix....only miss guided folk read that! He said Colorado City was about the same size as Raton....More than likely full of miss guided topix fans as yourself. Hold on to your seat. You might be headed for a bumpy road and a good stomping ahead!"

Keep in mind that, among the obviously disturbed nature of what this person just said, that there may be a violation of the Open Meeting Law Act, implied in the idea of having met Mr. Kampfer in Raton - since the official meeting he showed up at, to sign his final "you're hired" paperwork, was attended by a whopping three people. Since I was one of those three people, and a person from our local radio station was one of the other two, and an older female was the third, I'm thinking any meetings that others in Raton may have had with Mr. Kampfer (if they happened at all) has the smell of being a possible Open Meeting violation.

(Which would be normal, sadly, for the people hiring him: both sides of a not-long-ago radically split commission have publicly accused the others of doing just that, more than once, in the past.)
Grandpa

United States

#9 Feb 8, 2012
Seriously, Ratonian, isn't it enough that you spew negativity all over Raton? Get a life - somewhere OTHER than Raton. We've had enough of you!

signed: The REAL Ratonian.
concerned citizen

United States

#10 Feb 9, 2012
Mr. Kampfer claims we need to live by being truthful. He doesn't know the meaning of the word. He has done some things that were great. He harasses, back stabs, lies, and does what he wants and he has stated "I hate this city and the citizens, can hardly wait to get out of here". He stated that when Hailey Dunn went missing and also stated on an interview that went onto the internet "Hailey is dead, her family is misfits and scum, and I want to leave this city, I hate it here".GLAD HE IS GOING!!!
Ratonian

Santa Fe, NM

#11 Feb 10, 2012
Concerned Citizen: thanks for the helpful info.

That would likely explain the look on his face, and the way he acted, when he pulled up "Reclaim Colorado City" on YouTube during his contract signing at the end of January ... only to see a face that seemed to throw him off his game. He said it was the mother of (some girl that had gone missing). He said he didn't know that (video) was there; and tried to point out which video's still image he meant, of the ones ready for selection, on the big screens in the city commission's room.

I noted it, and filed it mentally, when he said it was the second one from the left, on the bottom. It was actually the second one from the right. It struck me as odd at that time, that someone whom our papers has recently said partially got the job in Raton because he claimed to have worked for three years as an FBI "agent" in Washington, would have made such a major blunder in observation. It didn't seem like a mistake an "agent" would make.

In other news -- any comments from TX on the lead story in today's (Feb 10, 2012) Raton Range:

http://ratonrange.com/manager-pledges-financi...

The very last bit was, to me, the most interesting bit, but I'll quote the last few paragraphs:

(quoting the newspaper)
The contract contains a section on severance that requires the city to pay Kampfer an amount equal to five months of his salary at the time - it would be $35,416 based on his starting salary - if the city commission fires him without "good cause." Under that circumstance, the city would also pay Kampfer the value of his unused vacation days, computed on an hourly basis figured from his salary.

Good cause is defined in the contract as a number of things, including habitual neglect of duty, conviction for a felony or for a misdemeanor "involving moral turpitude," willful or negligent misappropriation or misuse of public funds or other property owned by or entrusted to the city, and "willful and continued failure" to perform duties after being given notice and "reasonable opportunity to cure."

The contract adds that if a situation arises in which Kampfer is paid severance, "the parties agree not to make disparaging comments or statements about each other."

(quotes off)
Ratonian

Santa Fe, NM

#12 Feb 10, 2012
Here's a few links for you lovely people from within Raton who are so adamant about getting this guy ... whom, or so you try to imply, you had no prior dealings with, and didn't know anything about; and technically, still shouldn't have any feelings about, one way or the other, if that were actually true ...

... and yet, some of you in Raton were celebrating in advance, till recently - as if making good on Starkovich's promise to "unlease (sic) a tiger" on his enemies, within Raton - but are now freaking out over the idea that proactive citizens such as myself would want to know more about the "future leaders" the Appointed Few on the Raton City Commission keep trying to saddle us citizens with, behind our backs and against our wishes.

... in other words: we love ya, too, Grandpa! Hugs an' kisses! Keep the faith!

http://www.chillingeffects.org/

https://www.eff.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunlight_Foundat...
salgal

United States

#13 Feb 11, 2012
Ratonian wrote:
Concerned Citizen: thanks for the helpful info.
That would likely explain the look on his face, and the way he acted, when he pulled up "Reclaim Colorado City" on YouTube during his contract signing at the end of January ... only to see a face that seemed to throw him off his game. He said it was the mother of (some girl that had gone missing). He said he didn't know that (video) was there; and tried to point out which video's still image he meant, of the ones ready for selection, on the big screens in the city commission's room.
I noted it, and filed it mentally, when he said it was the second one from the left, on the bottom. It was actually the second one from the right. It struck me as odd at that time, that someone whom our papers has recently said partially got the job in Raton because he claimed to have worked for three years as an FBI "agent" in Washington, would have made such a major blunder in observation. It didn't seem like a mistake an "agent" would make.
In other news -- any comments from TX on the lead story in today's (Feb 10, 2012) Raton Range:
http://ratonrange.com/manager-pledges-financi...
The very last bit was, to me, the most interesting bit, but I'll quote the last few paragraphs:
(quoting the newspaper)
The contract contains a section on severance that requires the city to pay Kampfer an amount equal to five months of his salary at the time - it would be $35,416 based on his starting salary - if the city commission fires him without "good cause." Under that circumstance, the city would also pay Kampfer the value of his unused vacation days, computed on an hourly basis figured from his salary.
Good cause is defined in the contract as a number of things, including habitual neglect of duty, conviction for a felony or for a misdemeanor "involving moral turpitude," willful or negligent misappropriation or misuse of public funds or other property owned by or entrusted to the city, and "willful and continued failure" to perform duties after being given notice and "reasonable opportunity to cure."
The contract adds that if a situation arises in which Kampfer is paid severance, "the parties agree not to make disparaging comments or statements about each other."
(quotes off)
Kampfer says he all get you 250000, he stated here in ccity he got city 500000.lets see how this was done..laid off over half of police force&fire dept. Raised water,sewer,&garbage every year,
Fired only person to bring money to ccity.com bined lots of organizations into 1. Closed type 1 pit at landfill..against citizens wishes put in dumpsters,taking away 12 jobs
Leads by billing..cannot work with county or won't unless it benefits him..I can go on&on,we
Are afraid he won't leave if we say too much
He has including current ccity 10 yrs
.seems 3yrs is as long as stays anywhere..thank goodness. 3yrs in any kind of law enforcement is nothing..not enough time to learn any thing
Enough Already

Wellston, OK

#14 Feb 12, 2012
If Sal Gal, Dakan and the other idiots around town would follow Kampher the good people with half a lick of sense could get some things done. Two idiots don't make a right.
salgal

United States

#15 Feb 12, 2012
Enough Already wrote:
If Sal Gal, Dakan and the other idiots around town would follow Kampher the good people with half a lick of sense could get some things done. Two idiots don't make a right.
List. What kampher has done for city
C U Next Tuesday

Albany, TX

#16 Feb 13, 2012
salgal wrote:
<quoted text>
List. What kampher has done for city
Much cleaner now than when he got there, unless you like run down buildings. If so move to Loraine.
Salgal

United States

#17 Feb 14, 2012
C U Next Tuesday wrote:
<quoted text>Much cleaner now than when he got there, unless you like run down buildings. If so move to Loraine.
No list huh? Loraine is a great town,they have windmills,
receive grants, have new water tower, are improving school
system, and lucky them they don't have you or all they
would have is slabs of concrete with weeds growing through
them, I admire Loraine's leaders and have good relationship with Loraine,and believe most would be welcomed there with open arms,
even you. You are misguided on Kampher being responsible for"cleaning up", this was started by Jan Lemons and Birdie Kidd they tore down over 80 buildings that I know of,and they did it slowly, give City time to breath and accept.
C U Next Tuesday

Albany, TX

#18 Feb 14, 2012
Salgal wrote:
<quoted text>
No list huh? Loraine is a great town,they have windmills,
receive grants, have new water tower, are improving school
system, and lucky them they don't have you or all they
would have is slabs of concrete with weeds growing through
them, I admire Loraine's leaders and have good relationship with Loraine,and believe most would be welcomed there with open arms,
even you. You are misguided on Kampher being responsible for"cleaning up", this was started by Jan Lemons and Birdie Kidd they tore down over 80 buildings that I know of,and they did it slowly, give City time to breath and accept.
Trimmed a lot of fat from the budget too. Loraine is a good place to go if you want to test your suspension driving on dirt roads in need of a blade. There are also no wind turbines in Loraine. There are in the School district and I hope you know that there is quite a bit of difference in a town and a school district.
salgal

United States

#19 Feb 14, 2012
C U Next Tuesday wrote:
<quoted text>
Trimmed a lot of fat from the budget too. Loraine is a good place to go if you want to test your suspension driving on dirt roads in need of a blade. There are also no wind turbines in Loraine. There are in the School district and I hope you know that there is quite a bit of difference in a town and a school district.
. Still no list? Still trying to build kampher up by trying to tear down another town? Trying to get people to "look at something else" instead of issue in front of you. Again list any gainful thing
Kampher has created that was not already in place.
Interested

Abilene, TX

#20 Feb 16, 2012
Who is the City Councilman who owes all the money to the IRS?
salgal

United States

#21 Feb 17, 2012
Interested wrote:
Who is the City Councilman who owes all the money to the IRS?
. According to county clerk website..You can read for yourself

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