Can we ship PK back to Paris, Texas??

Can we ship PK back to Paris, Texas??

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Outraged

Albany, TX

#1 Aug 13, 2010
"In my opinion, PK as city manager would be as close to hell on earth as you would ever care to be." ----posted on topix on june 30 2009.....

Oh wait..they don't want him either. Now we know why......
Spook

Richland Springs, TX

#2 Aug 14, 2010
Give him time. Not a lot but a little. Things will get better. The County Police Force is a good thing to push at this time.
Outraged

Abilene, TX

#3 Aug 15, 2010
Spook...we give him much more time and we won't have any City employees left and this town will just keep going downhill. You can't run a town like the current Mayor, Council and City Manager are doing. They have given this man all the power and he himself has said he doesn't really need to work (money-wise) but just wanted to be a City Manager to add to his resume. He doesn't care about the people in our town and the people are what have always made this a great place to live. Don't ya think it's odd that after all these years, as far back as I can remember, the Vet Clinic has decided to terminate the agreement with the City? Doesn't that speak volumes about the current administration? He has been given enough time and he has proven himself to be a dictator, a liar and it's time for him to move on.
Sick of nonsense

Abilene, TX

#4 Aug 15, 2010
I get sick of uninformed idiots getting on this forum and spitting nonsense. Do you really think that this guy wants to get rid of employees and make life harder for himself? Or that he has had time to create the problems we're up against. He inherited these issues. The truth is our city has been badly mismanaged for decades now. Improvements got put off that shouldn't have and money was spent in a shortsighted wasteful ways without accountability.
I agree Pete's personality is not warm and fuzzy and its easy to get put off, but the truth is that I for one can see the reasoning behind every decision the current council has made so far, really it comes down to coming up with money our city doesn't have and still being able to move forward with development.
Yeah, the people here are great but we haven't taken it upon ourselves to put good leaders in place over the years, now we're reaping the benefits. We left it to old soreheads with no vision. It is our own damn fault for not getting out, getting involved and making things happen.
As far as the vet, Alfred didn't get along with any of the previous administators either, its always been that he's the only game in town. Not a big loss.
Outraged

Albany, TX

#5 Aug 15, 2010
Sick..you sound like a friend of "Pete's" so I am going to give you kuddos for sticking up for a friend, but if you ask around this town right now..not many folks are going to agree with you. The man is bad news for this city and the current leaders are sitting back and letting him do their dirty work.
Sick

Shawnee, OK

#6 Aug 16, 2010
No, I don't know the man at all except in his official capacity. I have found that "most folks around town" don't know much about what it takes to run a government, though. It's not that the average Joe, isn't capable, they just aren't informed or involved enough.

I'll challenge you in this way, what problems which we are facing did Pete create? I'm not asking what actions did he take which you disagree with, but what problems did he create. Did he put us in debt over our heads? Did he fail to secure us an adequate water supply or fix water towers? Has he wastefully spent any money whatsoever? If you can give me some examples I would be happy to consider them. Otherwise, I'm inclined to think that the "mistake" he made was taking a job stacked so high against him.

As far as keeping the folks around town happy, it seems to me that our city's back is up against the wall and making unfortunate hard choices is one of the only options right now. Hard choices = upset folks. We are all suffering from years of poor planning.
Outraged

Abilene, TX

#7 Aug 16, 2010
First of all...just because someone doesn't share your opinion, doesn't make them "uninformed idiots" so I don't see a point in argueing with you. And when you refer to someone by thier first name, like Pete, instead of Mr. Kampfer, if does make one think your friends. Perhaps the water should have been made a priority over the demolition and dumpsters. Perhaps the man need to tell the truth about things instead of lying everytime he opens his mouth. You have your opinion, and I will have mine, but I think you will find if you ask around town that most folks agree he needs to go, along with our Mayor and Council.
Outraged

Abilene, TX

#8 Aug 16, 2010
BTW....don't you think scaling back on the Code Enforcement's position would have made more sense than firing a Fireman?
voice of reason

Shawnee, OK

#9 Aug 16, 2010
I'll agree that code enforcement should be scaled back, before a lot of positions (for instance PD) but why does a town our size need 3 full time fire fighters. I may be wrong but I dont think we even had 1 until a few years ago. We were fine for along time.

Fact is dumpsters will save money and the water problems didnt come up until summer after the demos.

Since: Aug 10

Girard, TX

#10 Aug 16, 2010
uhhh, mab cuz its PUBLIC SAFETY?....those jobs should b the last to go! especially when u figure in the fact that the code enforcement "officer" makes more per hour after 1 year on the job than the "assistant fire chief" makes after 9 years on the job! oh, and did i mention that the fire dept was the only city dept that didnt get a pay raise last year? did u ever hear them complain? i didnt! im pretty sure that they would have gladly cut their hours or found some ways to make cuts to their budget if they could have kept their JOBS. do you realize how much money they have brought into the fire dept? try about $500,000! and several new trucks....ask anybody who's property has been saved if they would wish it werent so? these men risk their lives EVERYDAY to save u and urs...we should all feel blessed to have them in our community...not cut them loose to save a little change.
You can keep the change

Abilene, TX

#11 Aug 16, 2010
It seems to me that all this rolled in with Obama, remember everyone was ready for a "change" and boy did we get one locally and nationally. I have lived here most of my life and worked for the city about 15 years ago. I knew 3 city managers personally and I never saw one have the nerve to vote him a pay raise right after he got the job. I also never saw one buy a house like the Bassham's with a swimming pool, especially considering our water shortage. Does setting an example mean nothing? I will take our small town folks any day, this guy is just here for as long as he enjoys the ride. He has nothing to lose, this isn't where he grew up or where his relatives live or where his children go to school; just what does he have to lose. We are now down to 5 police officers and scaling back at city hall, I hope he feels he has earned all the money he is being paid. I mean we are supporting someone like this while our neighbors and friends are getting laid off. I don't know why the vet clinic canceled their contract with the city, but it is very telling of how the city treats its' citizens. A combined police and sheriff department could work, but it takes a very special kind of people to work together in that situation. I am truly ready to tell the country and the city to keep the change.
wide awake

Holden, MA

#12 Aug 17, 2010
let's ship him somewhere-
why 3 ft firefighters?
-1 firefighter can't work 24/7
-if your home was burning you would want quick response time which won't happen with the fire station closed after 5 pm
-don't think you want to pay the increase in home fire insurance that occurs when a town has poor fire coverage

This City Manager should return the 10% raise he gave himself, restore the fire and police, and RESIGN.

Wonder how the owners of the new hotel in town feel that fire response time has increased??

Colorado City was working hard to come back and move ahead before PK entered the picture-it was an inviting place for people to live and businesses to come to...don't let him ruin this.
He has already devastated 2 families-how long do we wait........

RESIGN, RESIGN, RESIGN-MOVE ON
Just Curious

Shawnee, OK

#13 Aug 17, 2010
I'm not taking sides just looking for info, do other towns the size of Colorado City have 3 full time fire fighters. For instance post or Denver City. I grew up in a time that small town Fire Dept. were manned by dedicated volunteers, is that not the typical case anymore?
Fact is

AOL

#14 Aug 17, 2010
A lot of smaller towns have gone to having full time firefighters staffing there stations in addtion to vilunteers. Colorado City has had full time firefighters (more than 1) for years . not just a few years. the average response time in city limits with a staffed station is 2-3 minutes , at times when there is no one there it is 7-8 minutes .... big difference when your house is on fire , its the difference between losing your kitchen and losing your house or your life.

Since: Aug 10

Girard, TX

#15 Aug 17, 2010
This town is constantly pushing to "keep colorado city beautiful", and its good to hav pride in ur hometown, but riddle me this: what good does it do to "kccb" and promote c-city like its the best little town around when "behind the scenes" ur replacing ppl left and right? Be honest with urselves ppl...ppl aren't gonna come here to live and work and grow this place if they can't get good jobs! And since we're bein honest here, it is very sad that we hav ppl that hav been on city (and CISD 2) payroll for YEARS and they still make LESS PER HOUR than my teen can workin @ TACO BELL! that fact gets OVERLOOKED tho, huh? Clearly it is not about the money to them, or they would hav left long ago. They continue to live here and work here cuz they love their neighbors and co-workers and want their kids to grow up right! Why is that a bad thing? They should lose their jobs cuz "well, we can replace them with an automated phone system that's more efficient and saves us in the long run"...cuz even tho they've lived here forever and worked diligently every day for YEARS, the city will be better off without them. They ALL take pride in their jobs and some even risk their own lives time after time for this community. Would u? Would u work a 24 hour shift away from ur family, risking ur OWN life for less than $15 an hour? THEY DID. And this is how we would thank them for being HEROES? The girl that checked me out @ Wal-Mart probly makes more.....THAT'S RIDICULOUS. And if the city's finances are so bad, why would u vote urself a 10% pay raise? Or waste money demo-ing old buildings that hav been empty 30+ years? Paying the dog officer + the gas to drive strays to snyder everyday? Buying security systems for city hall and laptops for city council? A new car and system to read ppls water meters just by driving down the street? Not fixing a fire hydrant that's been leaking water for 2+ months? A code enforcement guy who measures ppls grass with a tape measure when he's not harassing other working citizens about personal matters during his work hours? Charging ppl to register their pets or to burn anything in the city limits, raising garbage rates, fines for using water wastefully or having "furniture" on ur front porch! Getting rid of the woman who breathed life back into downtown thru the mainstreet program? Axing firefighters and cops and anyone else that he could only hope to someday be compared to? And then to lie about it in hopes of covering his own a**? He has made NO EFFORT WHATSOEVER to help these ppl find other jobs, and refuses to pay them for their accumulated sick times etc...would u want to be paid for ur 400+ hours of sick time? I WOULD...he told everyone on the radio program that steps would b taken to find them jobs and they would b paid for their sick times and compensated accordingly...only to turn around and tell these men THE VERY SAME DAY that they would NOT be getting this compensation? Evryone lies, that's a fact of life, but come on ppl....what's next? I hate to think about what the ALLMIGHTY PETE KAMPFER and GLORIOUS CITY COUNCIL will do next, cuz I already know it won't be for the good of this community. U can't write anything negatively about him in the paper, cuz they won't publish it unless it glorifies him or its one of his assanign plaigerized self-promoting articles that most folks don't even comprehend!....And its PAST TIME to "give it time" and "see what happens"Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
You can keep the change

Abilene, TX

#16 Aug 17, 2010
This should be a lesson to everyone that did not vote in the last election. I don't live in the city limits, but I really think the only way things will get better is for people to vote and be involved and informed. What is that quote? "Evil runs rampant when good men do nothing." I don't think that is exactly it, but I am sure everyone can get my point.
MeThinks

Chandler, OK

#17 Aug 18, 2010
Yes, people voted in the last election...without getting all the facts. We will see come election time next year, what the citizens think of all the changes, etc.
Fact is

AOL

#18 Aug 18, 2010
It's easy to get elected when you and your supporters are driving people to the voting stations. Now you complain that PK won't listen to you or the coucil , then do something about it , you wanted the power , you wanted to be in charge. Snyone else miss Jim yet ?
Decades

Chandler, OK

#19 Aug 18, 2010
It never ceases to amaze me the mentality of some people, for example.... SICK OF NONSENSE... Your statements must make you feel justified in you taking the side of PK. In 10 years from now, people are going to remember the decisions and actions taken by this administration at this point in time. To point fingers at past administrations is not going to help now or in the future, I feel whatever decisions that were made 10, 20 30, years ago were made with the best knowledge and honesty of the people serving on the city council. Same as with this administation, they are trying to do the best with what they have. Our town had over 5,000 people, now we are down to 4,000 or right under......where do you think money is coming from to help pay the bills for the city? A decline in economy and population has shut down many small towns...I just hope we arent next.
Drawtheline

Meeker, OK

#20 Aug 20, 2010
I've been reading this forum for a long while and its obvious that the only people to post are those who have been beat in an election, lost their job, or are closely related to those who are.

Yeah, it sucks that the City had to fire people. Yeah, I think the code enforcement officer is a joke.

Everyone has a different agenda, everyone has different priorities. I personally don't have a problem getting rid of two firefighters. A town our size does not need 3. It was a luxury we couldn't afford. Go ahead and fire the code enforcement officer. Get someone to do that job part time or let the PD write the tickets.

We need the cleanup programs in my opinion. Even if we all have to make sacrifices, we have to clean this town up. Otherwise nobody will come ever come here, we will continue to decline and we will continue having to make cuts every few years. The cycle has to stop somewhere.

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