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Mar 12, 2011
 
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You really are wasting your time writing here. Your time would be much better spent in writing fiction me thinks. I mean how could you POSSIBLY know all that about Hailey? I think you just may know more about Hailey than Hailey did.
Do you know different?
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Oh Brother; No compassion for Hailey,'eh? Obviously you know nothing about how these crazies live. I think YOU'RE gonna be in for a rude awakening. Get your head up out of the sand! I can't imagine the poor child lived any other way, with a PROVEN dope addicted/child-rape porn addicted/beastiality addicted mother and a killer boyfriend. BOTH rapists & killers. Nuff said.

As to feeling sympathy or pity for Billie Dunn; ain't no way. Nope, not one ounce. Nobody held a gun to her head and forced her to make bad choices; David's convict daddy, pothead Clint and killer Shawn. Nobody's to blame for Billie's CHOSEN lifestyle but herself. We ALL have choices to make. Everybody knows right from wrong and she's no exception. She had children to raise for heaven's sakes! I hope she fries right along with Shawn.
Anne

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Thank you for speaking up, ConcernedInky. I don't know whether I'm entirely right or not, but the child was having to live with sick horror materials all over the place; hours, weeks & mons of beastiality and child-rape porn videos, her mother & boyfriend doped up, NONE of which was under lock & key and hidden from her; what OTHER kind of life could the poor girl have been living other than one of pure hell, shame, terror & fear?

She tried to make her life as normal as she knew how; but like I said, God only knows what Hailey had to live with that she had no control over and no escape from, that we'll never know. My heart sure goes out to her, that's for sure.
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When I read "cornered" I pictured her being really cornered by LE and spewing obscenties while her head's spinning in circles like the Exorcist.
lol
I pictured her as a cornered liar white as a ghost..as in being caught, one knowing, and thinking about how long it will be b4 they're fixing to be caged like a wild animal 4 many yrs.
Ya see how fast she escaped from the call ..her little feisty self felt cornered by the questions she was being ask. jmo
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Anne wrote:
It bothers me JRW, the pathetic double life poor Hailey had to live, and her so smart, so intelligent, a pretty rose bud. At school she could shine, she could excell, she could show the best in herself, she was alllowed to be herself; there where she was liked for herself, had friends and felt important about herself. But she could tell no one, it was too shameful.
At home she was degraded, criticized, attacked and sexually violated, she lived her life in fear of her sexually violent drug addled mother & Shawn. God only knows what that girl lived with that we will never know. How did she do it?
She must have known her time was coming at their hands; she had no one to protect her, no one to run too, nowhere to hide to escape. She tried to tell granny her fears but granny didn't rescue her. She couldn't tell daddy, what could he do, when he didn't even have room for her? Would he even believe her? Then time ran out. She lived a nightmare JRW.
God only knows Anne how the little angel stayed as strong, smart as she did..
I pray her life was not filled w/ pain ..but agree i do wonder

BD'S already hung her lying self from way back..but I see she loved to talk when she believed all believrd in her ..me being one.
Hmm, Well now, that the truth seems to be clearer, clearer as to who BD is.. Many no longer believe in her.. nor Do I feel sorry for Clint, he could have got Hailey outta this hell hole she was living in w/ Shawn in the home..but nope...I'll hud it up here, make more babies..then somehow later on down the road I'll try to get a bigger home so you can live w/ me Hailey! Pretty darn sorry if ya ask me.

If Clint is so great ..wth if he knew Billie was out stripping , sellin coke, all the other bs ..WHY did this man not try to have HD removed or HAD BD proven as an unfit Mother b4 all this happened??
BC , He is no better than BD.IMHO
I do believe I have also viewed a vid of SA showing CD smiling, all buddie buddie.. but i could be wrong, the guy just looks like Clint.
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Probably a lot of calls from reporters, angry people and pranksters. But you never know, older people keep their numbers forever.
Who was the lady that was there and took the phone? Billie's side. That makes sense. Some people heard them say "Call Billie."
IIRC it was, which I thought was strange considering Billie wasn't there. Billie is a master manipulator and I believe the one who planned this whole cover up so I'm sure when Shawn was asked that hard question he didn't know how or what to say, so call Billie and find out what she thinks he should say. Problem is in that last question the host dosen't just say Connie heard you say this, but several people. Here's the last question before Shawn hangs up:
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Host: Connie Jones stated something to us that I that I felt I needed to address with you tonight.

Shawn Adkins: Okay.

Host: She stated to me that you had talked to her, and said that you could kill somebody, and hide the body, and no one would ever be able to find it, and weíve had several people state that to us. Explain this please.

SA: Well, all, the only thing I can say about that, is itís a flat out lie. Iíve never told Connie Jones anything like that. I donít talk to her. I donít think Iíve ever talked to her. Iíve said,ďHelloĒ in passing, and thatís it.

(low, quick click sound)

Host: Youíve never said that to anybody?

Female voice: Oh (unintelligible)

(noises in background like clicks of something on hard plastic)

Host: Hello. Shawn?

(no response, no further sounds)

Shawn Adkins did not return to the interview.
http://casesignal.wordpress.com/hailey
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That happened to me too. About 2 weeks ago, I had terrible insomnia. The good think is, I read more documentation at that time. Then I had to take a break. I didn't have nightmares, but I had terrible images flashing before me of little Hailey. I have felt pity for BD too. I believe she was probably a little Hailey too and had a terrible childhood (her father was murdered at their home, for one). She looks like she tried to make a good life (before SA. Then something snapped. Don't know if it was due to SA or what, but I feel for her in that aspect. Same thing about her brother Del, I wonder if it was SA's influence that led him to where he is today. And BD was married to DD's father BEFORE Clint and that husband's in prison, right?, then Clint, then SA. She could have had another child with SA given time, heaven forbid.
Thank you so much for this, Anonymous. It was starting to bother me that no one else could seem to see what I meant.:) But yeah, I think BD was probably a little Hailey. I just regret so deeply what she has become. Personally, I think the breaking point was when Clint said she started to do prescription pain killers. Its funny how people will think pot is bad, but give them a prescription and they'll start to fudge about how they need it, doctor shop, and next thing you know they're just as addicted (if not more) than anyone on pot. Who knows what happened; whatever happened, it was tragic and led to today. And yeah, I think I'm going to just take some time at night and go stare at the bantam chickens on their roosts, or try to catch a last bird singing at night, and get all of this stuff out of my head before I sleep - maybe even pray then instead of in bed about Hailey. Thank you for understanding, and saying so. I guess I need to send the payment for the counseling in the mail, huh? lol

I agree about Del - he looks like he's taking the same path. LIkely, since the death of BD's dad (and maybe before - I mean, who has parties where people get shot) those kids probably haven't been exposed to many stable, responsible father type figures. BD might not know what a good man is! Sorry, but CD wasn't a good catch before; he might change now, but he already has a felony and that will haunt him for the rest of his life as he tries to get right.
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questions from oklahoma wrote:
Hello everyone...as a member of Haileys extended family, I would like to thank each and everyone of you for you continued support of Hailey. As this whole ordeal comes to ahead and God willing we find Hailey, Even though most of you never had the opportunity to meet Hailey or get to know her, you have still loved her. That shows that each and everyone one you are compassionate people. I know that there have been heated disscussions on what may have happened, but each and every thought and idea has been carefully considered. I just wanted to say thanks to each and everyone and God Bless.
Thank you Questions. Yes, we do get into heated discussions here, and I'll warn you - sometimes we say some pretty ugly things. I think most of all sometimes we just really need to vent, and really at the base of it if we could have anything, we'd just want the clock turned back, Hailey home, and for everyone to have a wake up call and go "Oh we should start living our life like _____ because look at what we could have lost". Though the odds don't seem favorable, I think in our hearts we all still hope that Hailey will show up, we'll see her on the news being walked towards her family, etc. God bless, and thank you for being brave enough to come onto topix. ;)
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jrw wrote:
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I pictured her as a cornered liar white as a ghost..as in being caught, one knowing, and thinking about how long it will be b4 they're fixing to be caged like a wild animal 4 many yrs.
Ya see how fast she escaped from the call ..her little feisty self felt cornered by the questions she was being ask. jmo
That temper told me something about her that had been rumored, but no proof yet. And it's not anything good.
NatNorris

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Well there's another search today, and apparently more army folk are coming out. I hope we hear from Focus today as to what went on. Maybe they'll find something in the way of evidence, or maybe not. There won't be any arrests on the weekend re child porn. Peter HYatt seemed to allude to March 15th, though heaven knows why. The clock is ticking for BD and SA, and only SA seems to acknowledge that. BD thinks she'll talk her way out of this one - like she always has (except when she lost her license), but she won't. THe only way she'll get out of this is if they find, via evidence on the cp, that she really didn't know about it, but that doesn't look likely at this point with LE being willing to let someone else announce that she's a POI. Flight risk?

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NatNorris wrote:
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Thank you Questions. Yes, we do get into heated discussions here, and I'll warn you - sometimes we say some pretty ugly things. I think most of all sometimes we just really need to vent, and really at the base of it if we could have anything, we'd just want the clock turned back, Hailey home, and for everyone to have a wake up call and go "Oh we should start living our life like _____ because look at what we could have lost". Though the odds don't seem favorable, I think in our hearts we all still hope that Hailey will show up, we'll see her on the news being walked towards her family, etc. God bless, and thank you for being brave enough to come onto topix. ;)
Thank you however it doesn't take bravery, just an understanding that people everywhere have their ideas about what has happened, unfortunately we don't know anymore than what you have seen, read, and heard through the media. No the real brave one are the ones out there searching every chance they get. Alot of the family watch the forums some post some dont. I used to post more than I do
then I realised that the posts came more open and honest when everyone didnt know. I understand and appreciate the concern when one of Haileys family members are on but we really want the ideas that you all have that maybe we haven't thought of to search. So please do keep your posts going, your thoughts and ideas do not fall on deaf ears. and please dont argue, even the the ideas that are different may lead to something. No one is stupid or ignorant and differnences only make everyone think harder. Will be going now as I have had my say. Again the family appreciates everyone in what effort they can put forth, wether it be physically searching or just keeping the ideas coming. God Bless each and everyone of you.
Christine

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Christine, I saw some older photos of BD's house on a relative's FB or Myspace and there is carpet on the floor.
Anonymous~ Thank You. CSI still needs to get in there and see what lights up.
Christine

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Mar 12, 2011
 
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I can give you the link later when you are online for photos of the carpet if you want. I found other photos which I personally find disturbing. I think those can't be viewed any longer, but I saved them.
Yes please :) thank you.
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questions from oklahoma wrote:
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Thank you however it doesn't take bravery, just an understanding that people everywhere have their ideas about what has happened, unfortunately we don't know anymore than what you have seen, read, and heard through the media. No the real brave one are the ones out there searching every chance they get. Alot of the family watch the forums some post some dont. I used to post more than I do
then I realised that the posts came more open and honest when everyone didnt know. I understand and appreciate the concern when one of Haileys family members are on but we really want the ideas that you all have that maybe we haven't thought of to search. So please do keep your posts going, your thoughts and ideas do not fall on deaf ears. and please dont argue, even the the ideas that are different may lead to something. No one is stupid or ignorant and differnences only make everyone think harder. Will be going now as I have had my say. Again the family appreciates everyone in what effort they can put forth, wether it be physically searching or just keeping the ideas coming. God Bless each and everyone of you.
Thank you, Questions. You have represented your family very well. We all want answers; I pray we have them soon. Even if they're not the answers we wanted, all the more reason that they should be out sooner than later.
MissT

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There are a couple things that I've been curious about and I don't know if they've been ruled out yet.

1. Some one said that Shawn used to hangout at the abandoned magnesium plant that's just outside of Snyder. It's not very far from where Shawn worked and I'm wondering if it's been searched.

2. I read a newspaper article from October 2010 about human trafficking and a sheriff was quoted as saying that 2 midland brothers were trafficking women through Jaguars Gold Club in Odessa. If Billie was a stripper there, these would be the kind of people she associated with. Have employees and patrons of the club been questioned?
questions from oklahoma wrote:
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Thank you however it doesn't take bravery, just an understanding that people everywhere have their ideas about what has happened, unfortunately we don't know anymore than what you have seen, read, and heard through the media. No the real brave one are the ones out there searching every chance they get. Alot of the family watch the forums some post some dont. I used to post more than I do
then I realised that the posts came more open and honest when everyone didnt know. I understand and appreciate the concern when one of Haileys family members are on but we really want the ideas that you all have that maybe we haven't thought of to search. So please do keep your posts going, your thoughts and ideas do not fall on deaf ears. and please dont argue, even the the ideas that are different may lead to something. No one is stupid or ignorant and differnences only make everyone think harder. Will be going now as I have had my say. Again the family appreciates everyone in what effort they can put forth, wether it be physically searching or just keeping the ideas coming. God Bless each and everyone of you.
OhBrother

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Anne wrote:
Oh Brother; No compassion for Hailey,'eh? Obviously you know nothing about how these crazies live. I think YOU'RE gonna be in for a rude awakening. Get your head up out of the sand! I can't imagine the poor child lived any other way, with a PROVEN dope addicted/child-rape porn addicted/beastiality addicted mother and a killer boyfriend. BOTH rapists & killers. Nuff said.
As to feeling sympathy or pity for Billie Dunn; ain't no way. Nope, not one ounce. Nobody held a gun to her head and forced her to make bad choices; David's convict daddy, pothead Clint and killer Shawn. Nobody's to blame for Billie's CHOSEN lifestyle but herself. We ALL have choices to make. Everybody knows right from wrong and she's no exception. She had children to raise for heaven's sakes! I hope she fries right along with Shawn.
I have no compassion for Hailey? How in the world do you get that from my post? You're saying she was sexually violated, among other things. That may very well be, but there is absolutely no knowledge of that at this point. I think it's just wrong to be stating things as facts when they're not. And it certainly does nothing for Hailey's cause. The lack of logic or rationality in your brain is really quite scary. It's impossible to have a rational discussion with people like you, so frankly I'm not even going to try.
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Do you know different?
Absolutely not! I know as much as Anne. The difference being however, that I am not posting on forums purporting to know how her life was, and stating "facts" about Hailey and her family, spreading all sorts of misinformation and lies.

In the handful of posts from Anne that I have read, I have seen more lies spewed, than from BD herself! Maybe that's where your strong indignation and condemnation of BD comes from Anne. We most despise those traits in others, what we most despise in ourselves.
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In other words OhBrother, it's quite alright with you that Hailey had to live in degrading filth, the slime of video beastiality,(forced sex on animals!) child (rape, yes RAPE) porn, with a dope addled liar, thief of a mother; not the the least of which is her killer insane drugged out boyfriend that she lived in fear of. Yeah, that makes me a liar,'eh?

Look, I'm not the one who said it. Go back and read the affidavits, the searches of the home, the 109,000+ articles of proof LE has, THEN come back and call me a liar. Sure that young girl lived in a life of torment; yo0u can't face realaity, you don't like it, take it up with Billie Jean, not me, I'm not the one who said it.

You must be a drug addict yourself, living in la la land; one defending another one? You sure sound like it. Oh well, takes all kinds. Fare thee well.
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questions from oklahoma wrote:
Hello everyone...as a member of Haileys extended family, I would like to thank each and everyone of you for you continued support of Hailey. As this whole ordeal comes to ahead and God willing we find Hailey, Even though most of you never had the opportunity to meet Hailey or get to know her, you have still loved her. That shows that each and everyone one you are compassionate people. I know that there have been heated disscussions on what may have happened, but each and every thought and idea has been carefully considered. I just wanted to say thanks to each and everyone and God Bless.
Hello Questions from Oklahoma~

I hope that you and your family are well. I know you haven't posted in a long time but know that we are all here because we care so very much about Hailey. I am glad your back and loved your insight. Have you been able to speak with Clint? He is being very strong for Hailey. God bless you and may there be justice for Hailey soon.
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Anne wrote:
In other words OhBrother, it's quite alright with you that Hailey had to live in degrading filth, the slime of video beastiality,(forced sex on animals!) child (rape, yes RAPE) porn, with a dope addled liar, thief of a mother; not the the least of which is her killer insane drugged out boyfriend that she lived in fear of. Yeah, that makes me a liar,'eh?
Look, I'm not the one who said it. Go back and read the affidavits, the searches of the home, the 109,000+ articles of proof LE has, THEN come back and call me a liar. Sure that young girl lived in a life of torment; yo0u can't face realaity, you don't like it, take it up with Billie Jean, not me, I'm not the one who said it.
You must be a drug addict yourself, living in la la land; one defending another one? You sure sound like it. Oh well, takes all kinds. Fare thee well.
SIGH.
Yes Anne, I'm a drug addict, and a rapist, and a murderer, and don't forget the child porn. Oh yeah, I listened to Black Sabbath in my youth as well, so by your logic, I'm also a satanist. And hey, sometimes I wear a red sweater...I must have blood-lust.

You're right about one thing, it does take all kinds. I just wish we had less of your judgmental, holier-than-thou, know-it-all (before all is known) kind. Trying to reason with someone like you, would be like trying to reason with Jello. I'm so very grateful I don't have impossible people like you in my life. Even my 4 year old is more reasonable.

P.S. You may want to take a reading comprehension class. Nowhere in our exchange have I defended Billie. Just defending the facts ma'am.

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