Added gun control voted down!

Added gun control voted down!

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“Annoying and won't go away....”

Since: Dec 12

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#1 Apr 18, 2013
Sorry Libs! Looks like all your gun control proposals have failed...... Obama, Biden and Feinsteins reactions were priceless......
Linda

Alexandria, VA

#2 Apr 19, 2013
Yeah, those republicans would rather make it harder to vote than to obtain a gun.
You are Correct Sir

San Diego, CA

#3 Apr 19, 2013
Yes Linda, considering the number of people in this country that abuses the right to vote is 1000s of times more likely than ones who abuse the right to bear arms. Voting based on emotion (or just because your party tells you to) versus voting on the correct thing to do causes more deaths than any firearm ever did! Obviously from your comment you only vote along party lines so you won't understand why some Democrats also voted against this. They knew that this bill would only hurt law abiding citizens.
Just a thought

Vienna, VA

#4 Apr 19, 2013
This stuck-in-a-rut position is outdated.
Most of us believe that, it we strengthen the rules, we may save one life. It's worth it.
For those who think they need a gun to protect themselves and their families---how many people in Boston watching the marathon had guns. DAH. If they had them there wasn't time to use them. And when someone attacks me I don't think I'll have time to pull out a gun. Why don't you gun lovers foster/promote people carrying tazers---bad guys stopped, no one killed and you need not register. Plus, if a kid finds it they won't kill themselves or others.
You are Correct Sir

San Diego, CA

#5 Apr 19, 2013
I am sure you can find many instances where if people had guns, there would be no change in the outcome. But if you are going to argue that, you need to also show the other side as well. There are many instances where someone did have a gun and that person walked away fine preventing a tragedy.(By the way, these are not reported by the news as it contradicts that guns are bad). So the next thing is the emotional aspect...If we could just save one life...
So by that argument lets say, "Well if the 7-11 clerk in Boston had a gun, he could have shot the badguy when he was held up. If that had happened, the MIT policeman would not have been killed. Who knows where this story will go and so who knows who else could be killed by the end of the week." If we could just save one life, its worth it!

Since: Jun 09

King George, VA

#6 Apr 19, 2013
Just a thought wrote:
This stuck-in-a-rut position is outdated.
Most of us believe that, it we strengthen the rules, we may save one life. It's worth it.
For those who think they need a gun to protect themselves and their families---how many people in Boston watching the marathon had guns. DAH. If they had them there wasn't time to use them. And when someone attacks me I don't think I'll have time to pull out a gun. Why don't you gun lovers foster/promote people carrying tazers---bad guys stopped, no one killed and you need not register. Plus, if a kid finds it they won't kill themselves or others.
Talk about stuck in a rut!

Guns are bad! Gun owners are nuts! Most gun owners are unqualified to shoot those big, bad guns!

Get over it. Most of us don't live in four story townhouses, drive Jags, which we park in our two story garages, and annoy the police every time my neighbor President Obama serves Arugula at his latest party when the gang bang music gets loud.

Get a life!
Beach Lover

Alexandria, VA

#7 Apr 22, 2013
You are Correct Sir wrote:
I am sure you can find many instances where if people had guns, there would be no change in the outcome. But if you are going to argue that, you need to also show the other side as well. There are many instances where someone did have a gun and that person walked away fine preventing a tragedy.(By the way, these are not reported by the news as it contradicts that guns are bad). So the next thing is the emotional aspect...If we could just save one life...
So by that argument lets say, "Well if the 7-11 clerk in Boston had a gun, he could have shot the badguy when he was held up. If that had happened, the MIT policeman would not have been killed. Who knows where this story will go and so who knows who else could be killed by the end of the week." If we could just save one life, its worth it!
You stated "There are many instances where someone did have a gun and that person walked away fine preventing a tragedy." Do you personally know of any you can share?
You are Correct Sir

Portsmouth, VA

#8 Apr 22, 2013
Beach Lover wrote:
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You stated "There are many instances where someone did have a gun and that person walked away fine preventing a tragedy." Do you personally know of any you can share?
Yes!
Beach Lover

Alexandria, VA

#9 Apr 22, 2013
Ummm.....so share!
You are Correct Sir

San Diego, CA

#10 Apr 22, 2013
A family member that I personaly taught gun safety to used one. No shots fired, no one hurt, and no reports on CNN. A man insisted on getting in the car at a gas station. This person told him that there was a gun in the car and that this person would use it if necessary. He kept it up and when the gun was shown, he left. So yes I do know of a story that is personal to me!
Clueless

Washington, DC

#11 Apr 22, 2013
You are Correct Sir wrote:
A family member that I personaly taught gun safety to used one. No shots fired, no one hurt, and no reports on CNN. A man insisted on getting in the car at a gas station. This person told him that there was a gun in the car and that this person would use it if necessary. He kept it up and when the gun was shown, he left. So yes I do know of a story that is personal to me!
Good story. But I think I would have shown the gun first and talked about it later.

I'm glad it worked out for the best!
HB Rules

Virginia Beach, VA

#12 Apr 22, 2013
Beach Lover wrote:
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You stated "There are many instances where someone did have a gun and that person walked away fine preventing a tragedy." Do you personally know of any you can share?
I was shot at and I fired back. End of story. Once the bad guy realized rounds were coming back at him he got the heck out of dodge.

Second time man pulled and a gun, and started waiving it at people and telling everyone they were going to die. I did not have a weapon. Had to wait 10 minutes for police to take him down.

I prefer the first instance cause I can control my destiny.

In the second instance I was having to decide on what objects I could use as a weapon and none came close to a man holding a pistol. That was my only choice cause I aint never leaving this world begging on my knees. I am going down fighting. The only reason the police made it on time was the man was so out of his mind he could not function but that in itself made the situation unstable cause he could go from bad to terrible in a split second.
oh my

Alexandria, VA

#13 Apr 22, 2013
You are Correct Sir wrote:
A family member that I personaly taught gun safety to used one. No shots fired, no one hurt, and no reports on CNN. A man insisted on getting in the car at a gas station. This person told him that there was a gun in the car and that this person would use it if necessary. He kept it up and when the gun was shown, he left. So yes I do know of a story that is personal to me!
You lucked out. When you threaten him, he could have pulled out gun, if he had one. Then, he could have shot you before you got you gun. I'm glad no one was hurt.
You are Correct Sir

San Diego, CA

#14 Apr 22, 2013
oh my wrote:
<quoted text>You lucked out. When you threaten him, he could have pulled out gun, if he had one. Then, he could have shot you before you got you gun. I'm glad no one was hurt.
It wasn't me but I know what you mean. Because of today's legal system, current gun training for everyday people is to make it a point to let the bad guy know that you do have a gun and if you feel threatened you will use it. I don't know why it should make a difference. If you feel that your life is in danger from someone, why waste time... So this person did the correct legal crap and was lucky.
You are Correct Sir

San Diego, CA

#15 Apr 22, 2013
It was not a threat, it was a warning!!!

Since: Jun 12

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#16 Apr 22, 2013
Ok, I will take the bait... as someone who is pretty liberal politically (and a new gun owner by the way) it doesn't bother me one bit to have universal background checks. Maybe I'm crazy but if we can prevent one massacre with new laws, it would be ok by me.. but obviously I'm in the minority (at least here on Topix)...proceed with the bashing....
Beach Lover

Springfield, VA

#17 Apr 22, 2013
HB... had they had better aim you would not have had the chance to shoot back.

Most of the stated stories should have gone either way really.

Smartass... I don't really care who has a gun if they keep it away from children and crazy people, but I am not one that thinks every household needs a gun.

I was at halls recently and a man had his gun on his side... made me a little uncomfortable...I don't really want to live in the wild west, would rather think I am pretty safe at Halls. I grew up in a house with guns in it, had lots of hunters in the family, still don't want one in my house, the risk of an accident to me is the bigger concern. I don't however have a problem with others having guns. I don't, however, see the need for military style weapons for the general public.

I also am very for background checks and cannot for the life of me think of a good reason to not have them. Before anyone quotes the news or the commentators, go read the actual bill they were trying to pass. Also, I think all gun owners should have to go to some kind class to train them to properly use them, maintain them and store them.

I must say the craziest laws I have seen are guns allowed in places that sell booze... I mean really... what could go wrong there?

“Annoying and won't go away....”

Since: Dec 12

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#18 Apr 23, 2013
The issue I have with the whole thing was not the background checks. I approve of and encourage background checks. The issues I have revolve around the method by which they would need to track all these checks. In order to ensure everyone was in compliance and background checks conducted for all private sales, a gun registry would have to be developed. Otherwsie, how would they track this? A gun registry would mean the Gov't now knows who owns which guns, and where they reside at. That does not sit right with me.

I have been a staunch conservative for the past 20 years. I am now turning a little toward the Libertarian side (but NEVER to the Liberal side). Guns and weapons should be kept out of criminals hands and the insanes hands, but not at the expense of imfringing on my rights. The guns were never the issue, it is the folks behind them. Look at what you can do with a pressure cooker? Or a piece of pipe? Fix the psychopath behind the instrument of destruction, fix the problem. Ban or control guns from lawabiding citizens, crimals/psychopaths still have guns, problem not solved.

“Annoying and won't go away....”

Since: Dec 12

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#19 Apr 23, 2013
Beach Lover wrote:
HB... had they had better aim you would not have had the chance to shoot back.
Most of the stated stories should have gone either way really.
Smartass... I don't really care who has a gun if they keep it away from children and crazy people, but I am not one that thinks every household needs a gun.
I was at halls recently and a man had his gun on his side... made me a little uncomfortable...I don't really want to live in the wild west, would rather think I am pretty safe at Halls. I grew up in a house with guns in it, had lots of hunters in the family, still don't want one in my house, the risk of an accident to me is the bigger concern. I don't however have a problem with others having guns. I don't, however, see the need for military style weapons for the general public.
I also am very for background checks and cannot for the life of me think of a good reason to not have them. Before anyone quotes the news or the commentators, go read the actual bill they were trying to pass. Also, I think all gun owners should have to go to some kind class to train them to properly use them, maintain them and store them.
I must say the craziest laws I have seen are guns allowed in places that sell booze... I mean really... what could go wrong there?
That could have been me. I open-carry quite often around the beach. I trust my skill-level, judgement and knowledge regarding a firearm more then I trust even some of the cops in town. Of course, that is not a big stretch though.
Beach Lover

Alexandria, VA

#20 Apr 23, 2013
The_Bill_P wrote:
The issue I have with the whole thing was not the background checks. I approve of and encourage background checks. The issues I have revolve around the method by which they would need to track all these checks. In order to ensure everyone was in compliance and background checks conducted for all private sales, a gun registry would have to be developed. Otherwsie, how would they track this? A gun registry would mean the Gov't now knows who owns which guns, and where they reside at. That does not sit right with me.
I have been a staunch conservative for the past 20 years. I am now turning a little toward the Libertarian side (but NEVER to the Liberal side). Guns and weapons should be kept out of criminals hands and the insanes hands, but not at the expense of imfringing on my rights. The guns were never the issue, it is the folks behind them. Look at what you can do with a pressure cooker? Or a piece of pipe? Fix the psychopath behind the instrument of destruction, fix the problem. Ban or control guns from lawabiding citizens, crimals/psychopaths still have guns, problem not solved.
I don't quite get the problem with the government knowing you have a gun... if it is carried on your side they know you have it.. and the NRA sticker on your car/truck is a give away.... not quite sure what the problem is unless of course you believe the NRA that says the govt is going to take all the guns away...
I do agree there are a lot of ways to hurt people besides guns and that we need to do more to fix that. Making it easier to get mental health treatment than to get a gun would be a good start.

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