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Maybe

Fredericksburg, VA

#1 May 17, 2013
Let me understand this. The Council agrees to fully fund the School system, then has to figure out where to get an additional $400,000 (article in Free Lance Star). Not very responsible. Kind of like going in to a restaurant, ordering a big meal and then worrying if you have enough on your credit card. Mayor wants to hit everyone with a Five cents tax hike. Well people of CB you got what you wanted CHANGE, not
HB Rules

Virginia Beach, VA

#2 May 17, 2013
this country does that everyday, be worried about that also.
Beach Goddess

Gloucester, VA

#3 May 17, 2013
What is the town supposed to do? Not fund the school? As it is the school cut out 500,000 from their budget.

You have to pay for your schools, children deserve a good education in a safe building.
wtcsret

Goose Creek, SC

#4 May 17, 2013
Without some creative ideas you will have to give up either Police or Schools. Your management inventory appears heavy from historical levels. You could start zero based manpower assessment. Examine very closely anyone with assistant as part of their title. Design your manpower to utilize work-leaders. Industry has used cross trained maintenance people for at least 30 years. Staff that are proficient in Office should be prized higher than a secretary that just knows word. Specialist are passé versus jack of all trades.
Properly incentivized positions will have great effect on your budget. When the rubber really meets the road a Temp can be employed.(I'd be thinking End Of Year and summer) AA (AS Always) 477/68/NDIF
Maybe

Fredericksburg, VA

#5 May 18, 2013
Beach Goddess wrote:
What is the town supposed to do? Not fund the school? As it is the school cut out 500,000 from their budget.
You have to pay for your schools, children deserve a good education in a safe building.
I fully understand that the kids need to be educated and the Town has an obligation to fund the School. The Town and the County need to look at combining their leadership positions. There are less students in both High Schools than some systems have in one school. They could combine positions in the administration. They could also have one principal and asst. for both High and Elem. schools in Town. I have always supported our School, it is the upper tier I think I take issue with
Maybe

Fredericksburg, VA

#6 May 18, 2013
Beach Goddess wrote:
What is the town supposed to do? Not fund the school? As it is the school cut out 500,000 from their budget.
You have to pay for your schools, children deserve a good education in a safe building.
to clarify my first statement, my point in my original comment was not about the funding of the school, it was about the Council committing $400,000 that they do not have and then wondering where they are going to get it.
get real

King George, VA

#7 May 18, 2013
look at all the maryland tags in driveways in town that are fulltime residents wonder why town low on cash folks not paying taxes and town apperentley not enforceing forced regerstration

“C. Green”

Since: Sep 12

Colonial Beach

#8 May 18, 2013
Given the choices, Council selected the only viable option and I support that decision. Think the shortfall is closer to $250K. Big number nevertheless! Bottom line .05 per 100 increase in the real estate tax. Jim Chiarello is going to try to find some savings. Wish him luck, but my guess is there are none to be found.

Next year when you crack open that check book, I would like you to think back on our discussions on the old jail, boy we sure showed them-ran them off!, and Eleanor Park, no funding for an improvement foreseen for a decade. Thirteen prime real estate buildable lots that could plug this hole. There is a price for all of us to pay by refusing to sell surplus town owned properties.
Beach Goddess

Gloucester, VA

#9 May 18, 2013
There is talk of town employees being furloughed a day a week. That is a huge cut.

I don't think we need to sell excess property, but renting the property to businesses would be great. Selling the property means that is gone, done, only some tax income. Leasing means more income, for the long term.

We can't combine schools in just a moment, like some people think. First, it takes time to do that.

Second, Westmoreland County would have to raise taxes, immediately. So, CB would lose its schools and still have to pay more in taxes.
cb drifter55

King George, VA

#10 May 18, 2013
why not charge students that live off beach ? or get money back that was stolen. and save money on fuel if busses did not come way out to shores to pick children up. Or just turn over to county like everything else.
Beach Goddess

Gloucester, VA

#12 May 18, 2013
The students that don't live in town still give the town schools extra federal and state funding. If you give up that funding, you would have to raise more money to pay for things. There are minimum costs that are there regardless of the number of students. Higher numbers means more funding.
Maybe

Fredericksburg, VA

#13 May 19, 2013
Beach Goddess wrote:
The students that don't live in town still give the town schools extra federal and state funding. If you give up that funding, you would have to raise more money to pay for things. There are minimum costs that are there regardless of the number of students. Higher numbers means more funding.
You are correct, more students mean more dollars. That raises the issue of where do you put them. The existing buildings are only so big and then you max out. Your funding will at that point cap. I am not trying to be a nay sayer just pointing out what is fact

“C. Green”

Since: Sep 12

Colonial Beach

#14 May 19, 2013
Although furloughing town employees was mentioned during the meeting as a vehicle to mitigate our current budget shortfall, it did not appear there was much interest in it by the Town Council, at this time. Again, that would fall to Mr. Chiarello’s effort to review the budget by line item.

Merging with the County also discussed and was deemed unacceptable on a number of issues. First and foremost our school division is performing better that the County’s and is ranked in the top 35 out of 136 school districts. Additionally, as suggested by our representative to the County Board, Mr. Robinson, while there may be some savings by merging, any cost saved would be offset by tax increases by the County. They are simply not prepared to accept 640 additional students in their aging school facilities.

Accepting students from the County is not creating a capacity issue. Both jurisdictions are experiencing declining enrolling. Ours, last year was in the neighborhood of around 5%. That in itself contributing to our funding issues. Funding from State and Federal in 2009 stood at $11,785 per student. Those funds are under pressure from the economic downturn, the phase out of the Federal stimulus program and the Federal sequester.

Renting vs. selling is a philosophical argument and while I understand your point of view, I just do not believe that we should be in the realty business. I would argue that we are ill suited as shown by the 45 minute discussion with much consternation over a one year lease for a hotdog stand. We have an enormous amount of surplus properties, which is growing. We lack the funding to properly maintain them and they are deteriorating to the point of being condemned.

Our prospective purchaser of the old jail was planning in invest over a quarter million dollars on gutting and restoring that obsolete structure. It is simply an unworkable business plan to ask anybody to invest that much money and rent.
John G

King George, VA

#15 May 19, 2013
Questions:

Number of students who are outside of the Town tax district?
yea right

Kilmarnock, VA

#16 May 19, 2013
Hopefully they will look at all taxes and address each with facts and figures not just I think. Three are (1) Boaters reduction of the School prorated share of the Personal Property Tax.(2) Meals and Lodging tax (2012 Audit indicates $329,011 in Revenue at 4% mean each .01 is worth
@$82,252.(3) Tuition cost at a reasonable rate
(If we are rated so high you would think outsiders would still be willing to contribute since it includes transportation. At least look at difference in numbers of students from when tuition was charged and current.
What

Lawrenceville, VA

#17 May 20, 2013
Those renting houses for week ends and weeks to tourists don't pay lodging taxes, as they should. What they rent is comparable to B&B's and motels who collect lodging taxes from customers. Cottage owners should also charge lodging taxes. This doesn't come from their income. It's the renters that pay it.
Hey, hey, town council. This one is easy!
Fresco

Alexandria, VA

#18 May 20, 2013
What wrote:
Those renting houses for week ends and weeks to tourists don't pay lodging taxes, as they should. What they rent is comparable to B&B's and motels who collect lodging taxes from customers. Cottage owners should also charge lodging taxes. This doesn't come from their income. It's the renters that pay it.
Hey, hey, town council. This one is easy!
Chirello has a rental. Needs o b looked into
Tommyhater2

Washington, DC

#19 May 20, 2013
Fresco wrote:
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Chirello has a rental. Needs o b looked into
Are u jealous of Chirarello because he has a brain? You already did a FOIA so you know he has a business license and is zoned for rental. Get a life.
Beach Goddess

Gloucester, VA

#20 May 21, 2013
The cottages and rental homes are one thing. The number of cars that are kept in town, but registered elsewhere is another.(Drive around and look at the number of cars that do not have town stickers.)

I'm sure that property taxes will have to go up some, but really a couple cents, even five cents to keep our schools is worth it. For the average homeowner it will be 200 or less a year.
Maybe

Fredericksburg, VA

#21 May 21, 2013
Beach Goddess wrote:
The cottages and rental homes are one thing. The number of cars that are kept in town, but registered elsewhere is another.(Drive around and look at the number of cars that do not have town stickers.)
I'm sure that property taxes will have to go up some, but really a couple cents, even five cents to keep our schools is worth it. For the average homeowner it will be 200 or less a year.
$200 might seem like a small amount to you and others who have the resources. Think about those( and there are many)who are struggling because of the bad economy or might have lost a job. That $200 might be the difference between missing a few meals or not. The School needs to look hard at cutting their overhead. Two Principals for 600 kids, is this really needed? Just asking

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