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PWSCC Under Siege - Community Advocacy Needed

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PWSCC Member

Aurora, CO

#1 Feb 28, 2013
To concerned citizens of Colonial Beach and members of the Potomoc Westmoreland Shores Civic Corporation ( www.pwscc.org ):

On February 13, 2013 the PWSCC Board of Directors received notice of a lawsuit/complaint against it and the community filed on January 25, 2013 in Westmoreland Circuit Court. This suit was filed on behalf of Mr. Frederic Howe III and Mr. Linnie Hiter.

The PWSCC Board is working to address this lawsuit and to preserve the PWSCC organization that has been in existence for over half a century. All of the legal documents have been posted within the Documents and Forms section of the PWSCC website under Case No. 193CL13000005-00.

If you would like to learn more about this lawsuit and show your support in favor of the PWSCC and help defend its right to continue operating on behalf of its members, please contact the President of the PWSCC via email (email located on PWWSCC website under "contact us"). www.pwscc.org
Lop-eared Galoot

Centreville, VA

#2 Feb 28, 2013
PWSCC Member wrote:
To concerned citizens of Colonial Beach and members of the Potomoc Westmoreland Shores Civic Corporation ( www.pwscc.org ):
On February 13, 2013 the PWSCC Board of Directors received notice of a lawsuit/complaint against it and the community filed on January 25, 2013 in Westmoreland Circuit Court. This suit was filed on behalf of Mr. Frederic Howe III and Mr. Linnie Hiter.
The PWSCC Board is working to address this lawsuit and to preserve the PWSCC organization that has been in existence for over half a century. All of the legal documents have been posted within the Documents and Forms section of the PWSCC website under Case No. 193CL13000005-00.
If you would like to learn more about this lawsuit and show your support in favor of the PWSCC and help defend its right to continue operating on behalf of its members, please contact the President of the PWSCC via email (email located on PWWSCC website under "contact us"). www.pwscc.org
I always like to support a good cause, but what is the gist of the lawsuit in 25 words or less?
dog lover

Gaithersburg, MD

#3 Feb 28, 2013
If you want everyone to get this information, place a copy on everyone's door.
Resident of PWSCC

Chesapeake, OH

#4 Feb 28, 2013
Everyone needs to understand that the lawsuit leveled against PWSCC is by the one and only Frederic Howe III, a residident of Fredericksburg, VA and failed Mayoral candidate. Mr. Howe purchased his Colonial Beach property in 2010 which is located within the PWSCC association; an association that has been in PEACEFUL existence for over 50 years and now he wants to change the rules of this community and seeks legal dissolution of the PWSCC for his personal motivation and (financial?) gain. Mr. Howe is not a full time resident of Colonial Beach! I encourage everyone to read the legal documents located on the PWSCC website and talk to members of the PWSCC homeowners association that have been paying annual dues for many many years and supporting this community for the long term. Now, we have a part- time resident trying to destroy the very fabric of our community that has been standing shoulder to shoulder for over 50 years. And, once we allow this type of cancer to get a foot hold in CB, we have sold out. Folks, get involved! Don't let this happen to us. Colonial Beach is special. We deserve better. There has never been a better time or greater cause to get involved. Don't let Howe set a precedent in our community that could become a watershed for any other left wing, land grabbing, lawsuit hungry nut job.
Resident

King George, VA

#5 Feb 28, 2013
Resident of PWSCC wrote:
Everyone needs to understand that the lawsuit leveled against PWSCC is by the one and only Frederic Howe III, a residident of Fredericksburg, VA and failed Mayoral candidate. Mr. Howe purchased his Colonial Beach property in 2010 which is located within the PWSCC association; an association that has been in PEACEFUL existence for over 50 years and now he wants to change the rules of this community and seeks legal dissolution of the PWSCC for his personal motivation and (financial?) gain. Mr. Howe is not a full time resident of Colonial Beach! I encourage everyone to read the legal documents located on the PWSCC website and talk to members of the PWSCC homeowners association that have been paying annual dues for many many years and supporting this community for the long term. Now, we have a part- time resident trying to destroy the very fabric of our community that has been standing shoulder to shoulder for over 50 years. And, once we allow this type of cancer to get a foot hold in CB, we have sold out. Folks, get involved! Don't let this happen to us. Colonial Beach is special. We deserve better. There has never been a better time or greater cause to get involved. Don't let Howe set a precedent in our community that could become a watershed for any other left wing, land grabbing, lawsuit hungry nut job.
I would like to know how he was able to build that "Garage" that they now live in, and still be in compliance with the total land coverage guidelines, without tearing down the house that was already there. Seems a little fishy to me.
Steve

Gaithersburg, MD

#6 Feb 28, 2013
Resident of PWSCC wrote:
Everyone needs to understand that the lawsuit leveled against PWSCC is by the one and only Frederic Howe III, a residident of Fredericksburg, VA and failed Mayoral candidate. Mr. Howe purchased his Colonial Beach property in 2010 which is located within the PWSCC association; an association that has been in PEACEFUL existence for over 50 years and now he wants to change the rules of this community and seeks legal dissolution of the PWSCC for his personal motivation and (financial?) gain. Mr. Howe is not a full time resident of Colonial Beach! I encourage everyone to read the legal documents located on the PWSCC website and talk to members of the PWSCC homeowners association that have been paying annual dues for many many years and supporting this community for the long term. Now, we have a part- time resident trying to destroy the very fabric of our community that has been standing shoulder to shoulder for over 50 years. And, once we allow this type of cancer to get a foot hold in CB, we have sold out. Folks, get involved! Don't let this happen to us. Colonial Beach is special. We deserve better. There has never been a better time or greater cause to get involved. Don't let Howe set a precedent in our community that could become a watershed for any other left wing, land grabbing, lawsuit hungry nut job.
For those of us who aren't familiar with the issue, please explain in plain English what he is trying to do. Thanks.
Crazy

Gaithersburg, MD

#7 Feb 28, 2013
Here we go again. Come here vs been here. Weekender vs full time resident. Guess what ... We all pay the same taxes! If I do not pay association fees I have no say? I am a part timer and I have heard very little about this. Maybe if information was provided to ALL homeowners you would see more support. I used to have association info sent to my home in Northern VA... Not so anymore...who is in charge of sending association fee/ membership info out?
Resident

King George, VA

#8 Mar 1, 2013
Steve wrote:
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For those of us who aren't familiar with the issue, please explain in plain English what he is trying to do. Thanks.
You can go to the PWSCC website and see what was filed, it will explain what he wants to do in detail. But the short answer is IMO, he wants to divide/separate a neighborhood.
PWSCC Member

Aurora, CO

#9 Mar 1, 2013
Resident wrote:
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I would like to know how he was able to build that "Garage" that they now live in, and still be in compliance with the total land coverage guidelines, without tearing down the house that was already there. Seems a little fishy to me.
Many in the neighborhood are scratching their heads and wondering the same thing you are. BTW, the Westmoreland County Land Use website has an ¬ďanonymous tip line¬Ē to report potential violations of land use / watershed conservation acts. Go to: http://www.citizenobserver.com/cov6/app/webTi...
PWSCC Member

Aurora, CO

#10 Mar 1, 2013
Crazy wrote:
Here we go again. Come here vs been here. Weekender vs full time resident. Guess what ... We all pay the same taxes! If I do not pay association fees I have no say? I am a part timer and I have heard very little about this. Maybe if information was provided to ALL homeowners you would see more support. I used to have association info sent to my home in Northern VA... Not so anymore...who is in charge of sending association fee/ membership info out?
I recommend you go to the PWSCC website ( www.pwscc.org ) and let them know you want to receive their newsletters and be added to their email roster.
wtcsret

Goose Creek, SC

#11 Mar 1, 2013
This thing goes WAY back. It's all going to be settled by lawyers at this point. Money is the object. Lawyers take money, the system takes money, and if you run out....:(
Looks like some people signed a bad contract or failed to do due dilligence over time and now will pay a price for that failure. That's jus me from 68/477 NDIF :) The whole deal is laid out in the documents section of the web site
One bad apple can spoil

Chesapeake, OH

#12 Mar 1, 2013
wtcsret wrote:
This thing goes WAY back. It's all going to be settled by lawyers at this point. Money is the object. Lawyers take money, the system takes money, and if you run out....:(
Looks like some people signed a bad contract or failed to do due dilligence over time and now will pay a price for that failure. That's jus me from 68/477 NDIF :) The whole deal is laid out in the documents section of the web site
Can you sum it up in 25 words or less? I've gone to the PWSCC website to read the doc's and my assessment of the issues raised by the lawsuit are:
1. Misuse of the homeowners association funds by joining in a multiple county complaint against The American Water Company to legally fight a 20% rate increase that would impact all home owners located in PWS community. It is my understanding that the PWSCC membership overwhelmingly voted in favor to use its funds to join other counties also fighting the same water rate increase and that the outcome was effective and successful, saving homeowners a rate increase. This seems like a reasonable thing for a homeowners association to do. I've heard that Mr. Howe works in a paid capacity for The American Water Company, so he may a conflict of interest regarding this issue.
2. Safe Swim Area for use by all homeowners located within the Potomac Westmoreland Shores subdivision. As long as this issue was put before the PWSCC membership and passed by majority vote, then again this issue seems reasonable for a homeowners association to undertake.
3. The lawsuit seeks monetary damages of $200,000 because the complaintant (Howe) has had to wait in line at the PWSCC boat ramp. Well, who hasn't had to wait a few minutes to launch their boat? To seek damages for this type of occurence is crazy. How many boats were in front of him and what is the average wait time? For that kind of cash settlement it will be difficult to prove monetary damage or pain and suffering. We all have to wait at times, he is not the only one. And the wait is never more than a boat or two in front of any of us.
I've exceeded the 25 word limit.
wtcsret

Goose Creek, SC

#13 Mar 1, 2013
1 HOA bought in another HOA in violation of a deed covenent a long time ago. HOA 1 member is a unhappy camper. Enter lawyers.
I think that is 24 words but down to the basics, I'm that kind of guy :)
knuckles

King George, VA

#14 Mar 2, 2013
wtcsret wrote:
1 HOA bought in another HOA in violation of a deed covenent a long time ago. HOA 1 member is a unhappy camper. Enter lawyers.
I think that is 24 words but down to the basics, I'm that kind of guy :)
Good summary. So your sayin someone who has lived here 2 years is tryin to destroy a community of 50 years... For personal gain?
Interesting.

“Tidewater 6141835”

Since: Dec 09

Colonial Beach and Wash DC

#15 Mar 2, 2013
knuckles wrote:
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Good summary. So your sayin someone who has lived here 2 years is tryin to destroy a community of 50 years... For personal gain?
Interesting.
Someone is unhappy and LAWYERS are involved. The rest is yours :) Peer pressure in that small community NN tradition will prevail if unhappy does not have a ability to firewall :) If he's been there two he should understand the view :) Someone should explain STP and repercussions to him before he damages himself. You can win the battle but at what cost?
unfortunate

Washington, DC

#16 Mar 2, 2013
truly sad..

“Tidewater 6141835”

Since: Dec 09

Colonial Beach and Wash DC

#17 Mar 2, 2013
unfortunate wrote:
truly sad..
It's not sad it's the way of the future. People "Not from around here" who do not realize how things get done are more numerous. You have the Wash DC MSA in KG right now. Big city says got a problem, litigate. Unhappy better be able to hang on for a long time and never be in a position where he needs help. It will be awhile before "Not from around heres" reach a tipping point :)
Clueless

Centreville, VA

#18 Mar 2, 2013
WTCSRET wrote:
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It's not sad it's the way of the future. People "Not from around here" who do not realize how things get done are more numerous. You have the Wash DC MSA in KG right now. Big city says got a problem, litigate. Unhappy better be able to hang on for a long time and never be in a position where he needs help. It will be awhile before "Not from around heres" reach a tipping point :)
It IS sad.

“Tidewater 6141835”

Since: Dec 09

Colonial Beach and Wash DC

#19 Mar 2, 2013
Clueless wrote:
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It IS sad.
It might just be a combination of rugs and the guy who helps you to your car at the grocery store. That would be BAU (Business As Usual) from the big city :)
Criminal Bch Prop Owner

Hyattsville, MD

#20 Mar 2, 2013
It would be nice if people knew both sides of the story/truth. A handful of PWSCC Board members (cronies) bully the rest. They just chose the wrong "man" to bully. This suit against the PWSCC Board is long overdue! No one had the guts to stand up to them until Mr. Howe, III moved here. Mr. Howe, III is doing this for the benefit of all of Westmoreland Shores and everyone will benefit. Please get informed.

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