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John G

King George, VA

#1 Oct 11, 2012
http://www.journalpress.com/westmoreland-coun... -

Just in case you missed it. This was a shot for Colonial Beach to shine. We talk about Tourism, and here is an off-season chance to bring in a very worthwhile adventure and possibly a LONG TERM commitment. If you are a resident of Colonial Beach you need to be launching emails and phone calls to the Westmoreland Board.

Thank you Larry Roberson for supporting your district.
VETNAM 2

Centreville, VA

#2 Oct 11, 2012
John G wrote:
http://www.journalpress.com/we stmoreland-county-news/3796-we stmoreland-supervisors-no-crac kerjacks-fireworks-club-reques t-
Just in case you missed it. This was a shot for Colonial Beach to shine. We talk about Tourism, and here is an off-season chance to bring in a very worthwhile adventure and possibly a LONG TERM commitment. If you are a resident of Colonial Beach you need to be launching emails and phone calls to the Westmoreland Board.
Thank you Larry Roberson for supporting your district.
John G.....

I concur with both of your points. If you want to get something done in the political arena someone needs to make the extra effort and maybe push the envelope a little harder. Thank you Larry at least for trying.

This is a crying shame.
HB Rules

Little Valley, NY

#3 Oct 11, 2012
Sounds like all sides are trying to find a solution. The problem is with the paperwork and what appears to be a late start of that paperwork. Why is it a shot for CB to shine? The app was for the event to be held in the Westmoreland county. What part of CB government would be supplying support? Its not mentioned in this article.
VETNAM 2

Centreville, VA

#4 Oct 11, 2012
HB Rules wrote:
Sounds like all sides are trying to find a solution. The problem is with the paperwork and what appears to be a late start of that paperwork. Why is it a shot for CB to shine? The app was for the event to be held in the Westmoreland county. What part of CB government would be supplying support? Its not mentioned in this article.
HB.....

It IS known throughout the circuit as the Colonial Beach Drag Strip. Surely an event like this would benefit Colonial Beach in the short term AND in the long run.
HB Rules

United States

#5 Oct 11, 2012
VETNAM 2 wrote:
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HB.....
It IS known throughout the circuit as the Colonial Beach Drag Strip. Surely an event like this would benefit Colonial Beach in the short term AND in the long run.
Yes, that is a given, but any long term success and money earned will be taxed by the county and not the town. Yes,we will get the people who come in for gas, soda, and a meal. Thats good but it is not the town showing off its capabilities to host an event. All people in the beach know its westmoreland county, thats why they turn right on 205 when they get to McDonalds
VETNAM 2

Centreville, VA

#6 Oct 11, 2012
HB Rules wrote:
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Yes, that is a given, but any long term success and money earned will be taxed by the county and not the town. Yes,we will get the people who come in for gas, soda, and a meal. Thats good but it is not the town showing off its capabilities to host an event. All people in the beach know its westmoreland county, thats why they turn right on 205 when they get to McDonalds
HB.....

So where are they going to stay, The Inn at Montross?
HB Rules

United States

#7 Oct 11, 2012
VETNAM 2 wrote:
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HB.....
So where are they going to stay, The Inn at Montross?
I am not sayin CB does not get indirect income benefit. What I am saying is it is not in CB and the town and town government will not get credit for hosting the event. Thats all.
VETNAM 2

Centreville, VA

#8 Oct 11, 2012
HB Rules wrote:
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I am not sayin CB does not get indirect income benefit. What I am saying is it is not in CB and the town and town government will not get credit for hosting the event. Thats all.
HB.....

I think they would get credit by association, just like they will get blame by association when people outside the area talk about it. That's my opinion.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#9 Oct 11, 2012
VETNAM 2 wrote:
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HB.....
So where are they going to stay, The Inn at Montross?
The club has had the majority of rooms in town booked since mid-August for the weekend of the event.

Conservative estimates of attendance by members, their families and exhibitors for the event are around 300.

That translates into about 200k in gross receipts when you factor in food, lodging and incidentals for a three day event.

Most of that was destined to be spent within the corporate limits of the town.

Oh yeah- the initial permit application was made on 1 August, and the club was in regular contact with the county all through the month of August on what they were planning. Any suggestion that they were in the dark until late September just won't hold water.

However-another site the club originally looked at has been revisited. It is in the Leedstown area. They have made an agreement with the property owners, and the county administrator has signaled he will approve the permits once he has spoken with the members of the BOS. 3 of 5 members have already signed off on it, hopefully Mr. Hynson will do so in the AM, and Mr. Fisher has signaled he will abide with the majority.

Stay tuned.
HB Rules

United States

#10 Oct 11, 2012
Tim Curtin wrote:
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The club has had the majority of rooms in town booked since mid-August for the weekend of the event.
Conservative estimates of attendance by members, their families and exhibitors for the event are around 300.
That translates into about 200k in gross receipts when you factor in food, lodging and incidentals for a three day event.
Most of that was destined to be spent within the corporate limits of the town.
Oh yeah- the initial permit application was made on 1 August, and the club was in regular contact with the county all through the month of August on what they were planning. Any suggestion that they were in the dark until late September just won't hold water.
However-another site the club originally looked at has been revisited. It is in the Leedstown area. They have made an agreement with the property owners, and the county administrator has signaled he will approve the permits once he has spoken with the members of the BOS. 3 of 5 members have already signed off on it, hopefully Mr. Hynson will do so in the AM, and Mr. Fisher has signaled he will abide with the majority.
Stay tuned.
Thats great news for all. So it seems the local government was doing their best to help in this situation. Good on them.
VETNAM 2

Centreville, VA

#11 Oct 11, 2012
Tim Curtin wrote:
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The club has had the majority of rooms in town booked since mid-August for the weekend of the event.
Conservative estimates of attendance by members, their families and exhibitors for the event are around 300.
That translates into about 200k in gross receipts when you factor in food, lodging and incidentals for a three day event.
Most of that was destined to be spent within the corporate limits of the town.
Oh yeah- the initial permit application was made on 1 August, and the club was in regular contact with the county all through the month of August on what they were planning. Any suggestion that they were in the dark until late September just won't hold water.
However-another site the club originally looked at has been revisited. It is in the Leedstown area. They have made an agreement with the property owners, and the county administrator has signaled he will approve the permits once he has spoken with the members of the BOS. 3 of 5 members have already signed off on it, hopefully Mr. Hynson will do so in the AM, and Mr. Fisher has signaled he will abide with the majority.
Stay tuned.
Thanks for that good information Tim. Hopefully this will work out.
Wanda G

King George, VA

#12 Oct 12, 2012
Tim Curtin wrote:
<quoted text>
The club has had the majority of rooms in town booked since mid-August for the weekend of the event.
Conservative estimates of attendance by members, their families and exhibitors for the event are around 300.
That translates into about 200k in gross receipts when you factor in food, lodging and incidentals for a three day event.
Most of that was destined to be spent within the corporate limits of the town.
Oh yeah- the initial permit application was made on 1 August, and the club was in regular contact with the county all through the month of August on what they were planning. Any suggestion that they were in the dark until late September just won't hold water.
However-another site the club originally looked at has been revisited. It is in the Leedstown area. They have made an agreement with the property owners, and the county administrator has signaled he will approve the permits once he has spoken with the members of the BOS. 3 of 5 members have already signed off on it, hopefully Mr. Hynson will do so in the AM, and Mr. Fisher has signaled he will abide with the majority.
Stay tuned.
Thanks, Tim, for your pro-activeness and diligence. Hope this works out for all parties involved. This certainly will be beneficial for businesses in the Town of Colonial Beach, even though it is a bit further than the Drag Strip.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#13 Oct 12, 2012
We (CB) have always been considered the "red headed stepchild" of the 'County... always. Woody once told me that, as a teenager, his parents forbid him from stepping into Colonial Beach because of the "sinful" gambling and dancing. CB has always been more progressive in its politics. We have an independent school system that, other than West Point, stands alone amongst small towns and that many consider to be a waste of tax dollars (I do not). We have always been more aggressive towards (trying) to lure business. The county is more rural and for many, many years they have resisted "change." The Beach, for all its faults, has a least tried.
We will never get what we want from County officials, even though Larry has tried and continues to do his best. This decision comes as not shock to me given the history of the town and county's relationship. And may I add a disclaimer that I have nothing against children with red hair who may or may not have a step-parent.
Just Curious

King George, VA

#14 Oct 12, 2012
Tim Curtin wrote:
<quoted text>
The club has had the majority of rooms in town booked since mid-August for the weekend of the event.
Conservative estimates of attendance by members, their families and exhibitors for the event are around 300.
That translates into about 200k in gross receipts when you factor in food, lodging and incidentals for a three day event.
Most of that was destined to be spent within the corporate limits of the town.
Oh yeah- the initial permit application was made on 1 August, and the club was in regular contact with the county all through the month of August on what they were planning. Any suggestion that they were in the dark until late September just won't hold water.
However-another site the club originally looked at has been revisited. It is in the Leedstown area. They have made an agreement with the property owners, and the county administrator has signaled he will approve the permits once he has spoken with the members of the BOS. 3 of 5 members have already signed off on it, hopefully Mr. Hynson will do so in the AM, and Mr. Fisher has signaled he will abide with the majority.
Stay tuned.
Just doing the math, it appears that Mr. Curtain expects 300 people to spend approximately $600 per person during this exibition of fireworks and artillery firing. If all the rooms at the old Days Inn were already booked for this event since August, Im not sure where they were going to sleep. It appears the entire downstairs is undergoing a complete renovation which would be half of the available space. I think Doc's Motor Court closes after Labor day leaving a few other locations in the Beach to use, or King George County hotels. If Im not mistaken, when this was the Orange County area, they all camped out in tents. Have the law enforcement and EMS and fire departments been a part of this planning? Im not for or against this event either way, just curious where all the facts and figures are coming from and if our Supervisors and County Administrator has all the facts to consider.
Thought

Mechanicsville, VA

#15 Oct 12, 2012
West Point and Colonial Beach are the only 2 towns in the Commonwealth of Virginia that are incorporated separately from the counties in which they reside. Perhaps Cb could make a difference if Larry Roberson weren't the only local person attending BoS meetings.
Clueless

Centreville, VA

#16 Oct 12, 2012
Thought wrote:
West Point and Colonial Beach are the only 2 towns in the Commonwealth of Virginia that are incorporated separately from the counties in which they reside. Perhaps Cb could make a difference if Larry Roberson weren't the only local person attending BoS meetings.
Good point.
Just Curious

King George, VA

#17 Oct 12, 2012
Thought wrote:
West Point and Colonial Beach are the only 2 towns in the Commonwealth of Virginia that are incorporated separately from the counties in which they reside. Perhaps Cb could make a difference if Larry Roberson weren't the only local person attending BoS meetings.
They are the only 2 towns that have seperate school systems in Virginia, there are numerous other counties with incorporated towns..Orange has 2, Caroline has 2, Fauquier has 2, Prince william has several, etc. to name a few. I do agree town residents need to attend the county meetings though and be a voice.
Clueless

Centreville, VA

#18 Oct 12, 2012
Jack Swith, don't you think you're making yourself look like an ass when you judge totally innocuous comments as incendiary, racy, and mean.

I offered you a chance for us to meet in person at my expense. You should take it; you may learn something.
John G

King George, VA

#19 Oct 12, 2012
Clueless wrote:
Jack Swith, don't you think you're making yourself look like an ass when you judge totally innocuous comments as incendiary, racy, and mean.
I offered you a chance for us to meet in person at my expense. You should take it; you may learn something.
If you are footing a bill for lunch or dinner, I'm sure my calendar would be free.
BGBungalow

Aylett, VA

#20 Oct 12, 2012
Beach Glass Bungalow is open all year and available that weekend, just in case its to chilly at night to stay in a tent! Feel free to pass the word along. Info can be found using the Chamber website.

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