New Guy

Grayson, KY

#82 Mar 18, 2013
What might happen then Heath? The coc mafia, is it coming to get Mike and Randy or what? LOL. Seems possible cultlike leaders don't allow people to have conversations with others.

What about the debate Mike wants to have? Is that ok, or should he cancel since you can't trust those illegalist?

I know one thing for sure. My eyes have been opened to the behavior of some out there. Definetely does not hit the mark of being above reproach.
New Guy

Grayson, KY

#83 Mar 18, 2013
Randy_Craiger wrote:
Yeah, it does seem so; its very disappointing but I'm not surprised. I am well aware how "certain people" influence others and feed them misinformation. The sad part is when they eat it all up not even giving others a chance but take "certain people" words as gold.
fOcUs
11:11pm
Sunday
3/17/2013
I don't know what Joe means by move on past the coc, but remember Randy, not all of us are like what you see with certain ones here. I would like to think that the hardliners would like to have honest and open dialogs. Apparently that does not seem to be the case.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#84 Mar 18, 2013
New Guy wrote:
What might happen then Heath? The coc mafia, is it coming to get Mike and Randy or what? LOL. Seems possible cultlike leaders don't allow people to have conversations with others.

What about the debate Mike wants to have? Is that ok, or should he cancel since you can't trust those illegalist?

I know one thing for sure. My eyes have been opened to the behavior of some out there. Definetely does not hit the mark of being above reproach.
He asked advice and I gave it.

It's that simple.
New Guy

Grayson, KY

#87 Mar 18, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
He asked advice and I gave it.
It's that simple.
Why would you advise someone not to have Bible discussions with someone else?
Barnsweb

Alliance, OH

#88 Mar 19, 2013
New Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know what Joe means by move on past the coc, but remember Randy, not all of us are like what you see with certain ones here. I would like to think that the hardliners would like to have honest and open dialogs. Apparently that does not seem to be the case.
Be honest now:-) When have you ever had a 'hardliner' CoC openly discuss anything they hold dear - I never have. Yeah, you might give them opportunity to say what they think, but they are not going to be anything resembling 'open' in a discussion to allow you to tear down their strawmen;-)

Only actual and well founded faith and truth can withstand 'open' discussion.
New Guy

Grayson, KY

#89 Mar 19, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
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Be honest now:-) When have you ever had a 'hardliner' CoC openly discuss anything they hold dear - I never have. Yeah, you might give them opportunity to say what they think, but they are not going to be anything resembling 'open' in a discussion to allow you to tear down their strawmen;-)
Only actual and well founded faith and truth can withstand 'open' discussion.
Apparently you are correct. I came to this site not thinking that I already knew everything, but I wanted to expand my knowledge and horizons. Along the way I had to re-examine what I believed on everything. Some things I grew stronger in my certainty, others I needed to look even deeper into. I thought that was called growth in most people's minds.

I assumed that most here were honestly looking for truth, and you know what happens when we assume ;). Instead, I see some who already "have all the truth" and believe that someone who doesn't follow their way of thinking is an illegalist or stupid. But what those fail to see is this-much of what they hold is truth is nothing more than their opinions, their traditions. And others are damned for not holding their traditions, regardless of what the word of God says. The moniker "modern day Pharisees" rings true here.
Whitman

Axton, VA

#90 Mar 19, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
He asked advice and I gave it.
It's that simple.
I guess I affended some body cause I commented this weekend on topix about randy roo and and every comment I made was deleted from topix. I thought oh randy roo was in good with the good o boys in the coc but after I read what happen man that made me see oh randy roo in a different light and reinforced how I already felt about the Paparazzi Preachers. Mike done drank the coc water now and they gots him it looks like to me. I sure would like to read what randy roo and Mike talked about on Face book so I can see how bad it was that Conner cut randy roo off when Shawny pulled the plug. randy roo claims mike and him had good discussion then may be he should post it all on here and let us see if it was bad enough to get the axe. The Paparazzi Preachers aint playng no games they hunt you down with cameras and if one of their own want to talk bible the top dogs will make it stop if they don’t like you. randy roo you sure must pulled a nerve on Shawny some how. What all you and mike say on fce book must be real bad.
nobody

Vanceburg, KY

#91 Mar 19, 2013
Barnsweb wrote:
<quoted text>
Be honest now:-) When have you ever had a 'hardliner' CoC openly discuss anything they hold dear - I never have. Yeah, you might give them opportunity to say what they think, but they are not going to be anything resembling 'open' in a discussion to allow you to tear down their strawmen;-)
Only actual and well founded faith and truth can withstand 'open' discussion.
True, you won't see "hardliner" CoC discuss their views on here. Their offer to discuss in private is selective if it ever occurs and will never be an open discussion anyway. I think it is funny that Randy got booted to make it even more private. What goes around comes around they say.
New Guy

Grayson, KY

#92 Mar 19, 2013
Whitman wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess I affended some body cause I commented this weekend on topix about randy roo and and every comment I made was deleted from topix. I thought oh randy roo was in good with the good o boys in the coc but after I read what happen man that made me see oh randy roo in a different light and reinforced how I already felt about the Paparazzi Preachers. Mike done drank the coc water now and they gots him it looks like to me. I sure would like to read what randy roo and Mike talked about on Face book so I can see how bad it was that Conner cut randy roo off when Shawny pulled the plug. randy roo claims mike and him had good discussion then may be he should post it all on here and let us see if it was bad enough to get the axe. The Paparazzi Preachers aint playng no games they hunt you down with cameras and if one of their own want to talk bible the top dogs will make it stop if they don’t like you. randy roo you sure must pulled a nerve on Shawny some how. What all you and mike say on fce book must be real bad.
It must have been "bad stuff" for Heath to shut it down. Maybe afraid Mike might hear some truth or at least a different point of view. Can't have that now can we?

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#93 Mar 19, 2013
New Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would you advise someone not to have Bible discussions with someone else?
Our talks were great and Mike made some interesting points. We both were perfect gentlemen the entire discussion on Facebook. Maybe that was the problem – Mike didn’t resort to name calling and putting me down. Mike was 100% a gentlemen and treated me with total respect. If he had of called me ‘stupid’ or and ‘illegalist’ or told me to “just go get me 6 pack of beer”, Heath may have enjoyed that a bit more and not “advised” Mike to discontinue talks with me. Instead, Mike was respectful and not once talked down to me. It was a suprise when I didn’t hear from him the next day but I knew exactly what occurred hence me using the “fOcUs” on my comment.

9:30am
Tuesday
3/19/2013
nobody

Vanceburg, KY

#94 Mar 19, 2013
Whitman wrote:
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I sure would like to read what randy roo and Mike talked about on Face book so I can see how bad it was that Conner cut randy roo off when Shawny pulled the plug. randy roo claims mike and him had good discussion then may be he should post it all on here and let us see if it was bad enough to get the axe.
That tells you something in itself. So called preachers afraid to discuss an issue in public are of no use to anyone especially the gospel of Christ. They are afraid of the truth and you see that in CoC preachers. randy roo is only interested in plugging his failed site, I believe.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#95 Mar 19, 2013
nobody wrote:
<quoted text> I think it is funny that Randy got booted to make it even more private. What goes around comes around they say.
Expound on this, please. What do you mean by "What goes around comes around" ... Ive never booted anyone from nothing. Maybe I am misunderstanding you.

9:34am - Break
Tuesday
3/19/2013

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#96 Mar 19, 2013
Whitman wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess I affended some body cause I commented this weekend on topix about randy roo and and every comment I made was deleted from topix. I thought oh randy roo was in good with the good o boys in the coc but after I read what happen man that made me see oh randy roo in a different light and reinforced how I already felt about the Paparazzi Preachers. Mike done drank the coc water now and they gots him it looks like to me. I sure would like to read what randy roo and Mike talked about on Face book so I can see how bad it was that Conner cut randy roo off when Shawny pulled the plug. randy roo claims mike and him had good discussion then may be he should post it all on here and let us see if it was bad enough to get the axe. The Paparazzi Preachers aint playng no games they hunt you down with cameras and if one of their own want to talk bible the top dogs will make it stop if they don’t like you. randy roo you sure must pulled a nerve on Shawny some how. What all you and mike say on fce book must be real bad.
No need to post it. It was between Mike and I and nothing bad was said by either of us
9:36am - Break
Tuesday
3/19/2013
Whitman

Axton, VA

#97 Mar 19, 2013
well if it is not bad then why you want to hide it. yall must said something bad that would make Shawny tell Mike to get away from yalls talks. Why you tracking your time and date on here when you comment. Me thinks you dont trust them coc either and you putting times on there to pretect your self is this true randy roo? Have they feared you so bad that you have to put date and time on all your comments. Probabot what nobody means is you should not got mixed up with the coc then you wouldnt gotten the boot from face book.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#98 Mar 19, 2013
nobody wrote:
<quoted text>True, you won't see "hardliner" CoC discuss their views on here. Their offer to discuss in private is selective if it ever occurs and will never be an open discussion anyway. I think it is funny that Randy got booted to make it even more private. What goes around comes around they say.
Nah

That's why no calls in on the TV shows and gives us an alternative to churches if Christ.

If personally issued the challenge.
New Guy

Grayson, KY

#99 Mar 19, 2013
Whitman wrote:
well if it is not bad then why you want to hide it. yall must said something bad that would make Shawny tell Mike to get away from yalls talks. Why you tracking your time and date on here when you comment. Me thinks you dont trust them coc either and you putting times on there to pretect your self is this true randy roo? Have they feared you so bad that you have to put date and time on all your comments. Probabot what nobody means is you should not got mixed up with the coc then you wouldnt gotten the boot from face book.
Doesn't necessarily have to be anything bad. Heath simply said illegalist are not to be trusted. The problem is with him and that mindset, not Randy. Makes me wonder if they might be afraid Mike hasn't fully drank the kool-aid yet, not wanting him to hear something different. Just guessing here.
joe blue

United States

#100 Mar 19, 2013
I have seen their conversation and nothing bad at all. I think randy has more than one site so the accusation from the nobody guy is not totally true. I wouldn't be so fast to make a judgement if you never have tried maintaining several sites. What do you think about that creed rehearsal site. I wonder who is the brains behind it?
New Guy

Grayson, KY

#101 Mar 19, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nah
That's why no calls in on the TV shows and gives us an alternative to churches if Christ.
If personally issued the challenge.
I've got an alternative. How about other churches of Christ without the negative attitudes or unscriptural doctrines? How about Christian churches (let the name calling begin)? Or home churches where people get away from the institutional ideas that the modern "church" has become? Or are you just worried that the name on the building is correct?

Whitewashed tombs, full of dead men's bones.
nobody

Vanceburg, KY

#102 Mar 19, 2013
JesusCreed wrote:
<quoted text>
Expound on this, please. What do you mean by "What goes around comes around" ... Ive never booted anyone from nothing. Maybe I am misunderstanding you.
9:34am - Break
Tuesday
3/19/2013
You were backing Mike and his private discussions. It has come back to bite you in the butt.
nobody

Vanceburg, KY

#103 Mar 19, 2013
joe blue wrote:
I have seen their conversation and nothing bad at all. I think randy has more than one site so the accusation from the nobody guy is not totally true. I wouldn't be so fast to make a judgement if you never have tried maintaining several sites. What do you think about that creed rehearsal site. I wonder who is the brains behind it?
I don't really care who is behind the site. I can tell you this, if Randy sites were so busy he wouldn't have so much time to spend on topix, unless that's where he gets his information.

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