First Prev
of 7
Next Last
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#1 Mar 10, 2013
This is the third Sunday in a row we have taken communion in the Bible church where I attend.

We have started a new way of doing communion. We have new communion trays, in the center is a small bowl filled with small communion crackers and around the outside are all the individual grape juice containers. When we pass it around everyone is supposed to take one of each and hold it. Then, after everyone has been served, someone will lead the prayer and give thanks for the bread which represents the body of Christ-we all take it together at the same time. Then we have a prayer for fruit of the vine which represents the shed blood of Christ and we all take the fruit of the vine together at the same time. No music or singing is involved.

We have had a few problems with this though. Today, someone accidentally spilled the juice into the center part where the crackers were. So one of us had to change to another serving tray.
New Guy

Chesapeake, OH

#2 Mar 10, 2013
Bobby wrote:
This is the third Sunday in a row we have taken communion in the Bible church where I attend.
We have started a new way of doing communion. We have new communion trays, in the center is a small bowl filled with small communion crackers and around the outside are all the individual grape juice containers. When we pass it around everyone is supposed to take one of each and hold it. Then, after everyone has been served, someone will lead the prayer and give thanks for the bread which represents the body of Christ-we all take it together at the same time. Then we have a prayer for fruit of the vine which represents the shed blood of Christ and we all take the fruit of the vine together at the same time. No music or singing is involved.
We have had a few problems with this though. Today, someone accidentally spilled the juice into the center part where the crackers were. So one of us had to change to another serving tray.
I like that. One congregation I preached in did the same thing with waiting for everyone and no music. But they also turned the lights off as we done that. Very nice, really brought a nice touch.

Our biggest problem, and its a good one, is running out of juice halfway through the service. Oh, my four year old son also likes the juice. He has been known to sneak one out from time to time :)
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#3 Mar 10, 2013
New Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
I like that. One congregation I preached in did the same thing with waiting for everyone and no music. But they also turned the lights off as we done that. Very nice, really brought a nice touch.
Our biggest problem, and its a good one, is running out of juice halfway through the service. Oh, my four year old son also likes the juice. He has been known to sneak one out from time to time :)
One of the good things about this is that it takes a long time to serve a 1000 people and this process speeds things up a bit. Our services usually last about an hour and a half-about the same with our classes too.

Our message today was "how to leave a church". Keep in mind that our classes use the same scriptures that the pastor will preach from, and we discuss the topic before the sermon begins. That way we are familiar with the message before we hear it.
New Guy

Morehead, KY

#4 Mar 10, 2013
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>
One of the good things about this is that it takes a long time to serve a 1000 people and this process speeds things up a bit. Our services usually last about an hour and a half-about the same with our classes too.
Our message today was "how to leave a church". Keep in mind that our classes use the same scriptures that the pastor will preach from, and we discuss the topic before the sermon begins. That way we are familiar with the message before we hear it.
How to leave a church? You have my attention. Please clarify when you get time.
Barnsweb

Alliance, OH

#5 Mar 11, 2013
Yes, I'd love to hear that one:-) With so many having already done so, I can only wonder how the attendance roles might reflect grasping the sermon:-) Actually, it may be more of an awareness lesson to make the congregation mindful of how to treat visitors and make them want to say there - Bobby, which was it?;-)

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#6 Mar 11, 2013
Bobby, tell them about the pledge of allegiance that new members must sign to be a part of your church.

Tell them about pouring water for baptism.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#7 Mar 11, 2013

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#8 Mar 11, 2013
http://storage.cloversites.com/gracebiblechur...

The Bible is not sufficient for a so-called "Bible church".

2 Tim. 3:16-17

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#9 Mar 11, 2013
"SECTION 2. Receiving Members.
As many as have been duly examined and have assented to the Constitution and Bylaws of the church, shall be received into the membership of the church by a vote of the Board of Elders at such time as may be determined by them."

Bobby' church laws.

hhhmmmmmm

Here's how God's church recieves members- Acts 2:38; 47; 1 Cor. 12:13
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#10 Mar 11, 2013
Eph 4:1-6 was the scriptural basis for the message and the core competency was humility.

The message started off with asking people to raise their hands if you have been a member longer than 20 years and then going all the way down to new members. This was showing how diverse the member is and how often people change churches. This means that there are good reasons to change churches and also bad reasons. The main thing to remember is that there is one body and we should learn how to be humble, not seeking our own vain ambitions but to give our lives to one another and seek to good of the all people.

When we do leave a church we should leave on good terms.

Another aspect was to show how the world around us has changed how we live, how often we change jobs and move from city to city. We once were a nation of people who were mostly born into a church family grew up in that church got married in that church and our funeral was held in that church. Today is a throw away society where we tend to not develop long term relationships. Sometimes our relationship to Christ is also compromised.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#11 Mar 11, 2013
Bobby wrote:
Eph 4:1-6 was the scriptural basis for the message and the core competency was humility.

The message started off with asking people to raise their hands if you have been a member longer than 20 years and then going all the way down to new members. This was showing how diverse the member is and how often people change churches. This means that there are good reasons to change churches and also bad reasons. The main thing to remember is that there is one body and we should learn how to be humble, not seeking our own vain ambitions but to give our lives to one another and seek to good of the all people.

When we do leave a church we should leave on good terms.

Another aspect was to show how the world around us has changed how we live, how often we change jobs and move from city to city. We once were a nation of people who were mostly born into a church family grew up in that church got married in that church and our funeral was held in that church. Today is a throw away society where we tend to not develop long term relationships. Sometimes our relationship to Christ is also compromised.
Leaving God's people on any terms is a very bad decision.

Repent and come home.

www.roysecitycoc.org

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#12 Mar 11, 2013
Bobby wrote:
Eph 4:1-6 was the scriptural basis for the message and the core competency was humility.

The message started off with asking people to raise their hands if you have been a member longer than 20 years and then going all the way down to new members. This was showing how diverse the member is and how often people change churches. This means that there are good reasons to change churches and also bad reasons. The main thing to remember is that there is one body and we should learn how to be humble, not seeking our own vain ambitions but to give our lives to one another and seek to good of the all people.

When we do leave a church we should leave on good terms.

Another aspect was to show how the world around us has changed how we live, how often we change jobs and move from city to city. We once were a nation of people who were mostly born into a church family grew up in that church got married in that church and our funeral was held in that church. Today is a throw away society where we tend to not develop long term relationships. Sometimes our relationship to Christ is also compromised.
Eph 4:1-6
Amen

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#13 Mar 11, 2013
"ARTICLE III: MEMBERSHIP
SECTION 1. Qualification for Membership.
Persons desiring to unite with this church by confession of a personal faith in Christ as Savior shall be examined by at least two Elders as to their Christian experience and the basis of salvation, and shall be required to assent to the Constitution and Bylaws of the church."

WOW, now that's cultic!
Mike Conner

United States

#14 Mar 11, 2013
HEATH - 72 wrote:
"ARTICLE III: MEMBERSHIP
SECTION 1. Qualification for Membership.
Persons desiring to unite with this church by confession of a personal faith in Christ as Savior shall be examined by at least two Elders as to their Christian experience and the basis of salvation, and shall be required to assent to the Constitution and Bylaws of the church."
WOW, now that's cultic!
So where do the by laws and constitution come from? And what exactly makes up this "examination" by the elders?
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#15 Mar 11, 2013
I would not go Heath or Johnny's church even if they changed the name to a "bible church". In fact if you changed your hardcore legalist doctrine to a doctrine including grace and love, I don't feel like I could ever trust you guys. You have to much history of invading peoples privacy and disrupting other church services. You guys are like trained attack dogs.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#16 Mar 11, 2013
Mike Conner wrote:
<quoted text>So where do the by laws and constitution come from? And what exactly makes up this "examination" by the elders?
Basically it's a cultic type of control over the membership all under the illusion of being free.
New Guy

Morehead, KY

#17 Mar 11, 2013
I believe that church bylaws and constitutions may be required by law. Most of the ones I know of are just for legal purposes.
Bobby

Fort Worth, TX

#18 Mar 11, 2013
New Guy wrote:
I believe that church bylaws and constitutions may be required by law. Most of the ones I know of are just for legal purposes.
I am glad that you know the fundamental structures of church bylaws. I have often wondered if small churches are required by law to have them. For instance a quorum is required to vote for elders in our church. This means that we have to have a certain percentage of the membership in attendance in order to have a quorum. In our by laws we cannot have an elder for more than two consecutive years. He must step down for one year and after that he can be voted back in. In the coc an elder is a life long position. They have the authority to remove a preacher but no one has the authority to remove them. This is why Johnny and Heath do not like elders.
New Guy

Morehead, KY

#19 Mar 11, 2013
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>
I am glad that you know the fundamental structures of church bylaws. I have often wondered if small churches are required by law to have them. For instance a quorum is required to vote for elders in our church. This means that we have to have a certain percentage of the membership in attendance in order to have a quorum. In our by laws we cannot have an elder for more than two consecutive years. He must step down for one year and after that he can be voted back in. In the coc an elder is a life long position. They have the authority to remove a preacher but no one has the authority to remove them. This is why Johnny and Heath do not like elders.
We have brethren up here who specialize in writing bylaws for small congregations. They word them so they are strong enough to pass legal muster, but are never referred to unless a problem rises in the church.

Bobby, I must do something here. If Heath is willing to call you an "erring" brother, I should at least do the same. I do believe you are sincere in your walk although we have our disagreements. Perhaps just brother who I happen to disagree with. We often have the same sentiments, just differ on how we get there. There are some in my congregation who I feel the same toward. I do wish you were part of "our flocks" so to speak, but I understand why you really want no part of it.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#20 Mar 11, 2013
Bobby wrote:
<quoted text>
I am glad that you know the fundamental structures of church bylaws. I have often wondered if small churches are required by law to have them. For instance a quorum is required to vote for elders in our church. This means that we have to have a certain percentage of the membership in attendance in order to have a quorum. In our by laws we cannot have an elder for more than two consecutive years. He must step down for one year and after that he can be voted back in. In the coc an elder is a life long position. They have the authority to remove a preacher but no one has the authority to remove them. This is why Johnny and Heath do not like elders.
Does this have to do with tax free status? If so then your elders may also be trustees. It is the trustee that is voted on not the elder, although they can be filling both positions. Now Elders are not usually voted on so to speak but are recommended and if qualified chose to serve.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 7
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Collinsville Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
thomas jefferson edwards (Apr '16) Oct '16 NUKS67 3
THE CHILDREN of THE GOD MOST HIGH (May '14) Oct '16 randy 5
Martinsville Seven - The Martinsville Curse (Mar '10) Oct '16 Santiago Ramey 10
Nickname of Stick Oct '16 A friend 1
Easter Auto Sales (Feb '12) Oct '16 donnawyattreed 9
Dawn Mills Oct '16 Alan Nolan 1
Worship vs Service (Sep '10) Oct '16 Openbook7 7

Collinsville Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Collinsville Mortgages