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COC preachers from out of state on Religious Review last night shown going to preachers at other churches. They said they were with Church Of God and not with Church Of Christ. Just to get preachers to say things about Church Of Christ cult on hidden video camera. They lied and Micah Robertson approves of their lying!!!!!
Whitman

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Why didn't they identify themselves as being with Church Of Christ? Are these out of town COC in truth ashamed of the name of Christ? HMMMMMMM???? Micah Robertson why are you ashamed of the name of Christ?
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I noticed that also Whitman. Now the entire church community knows to expect the COC to lie so they can trick you for the show. Their little kids will do the same in life, because they watched their dads and their preachers do it. They may be in the Church of God(and they consider that acceptable) which they identifiedthemselves as , but everyone knows they do not consider the Cleveland Tn. COG as part of the church. That was the church Billy Williams was familiar with, raised in that church I believe, will have to look back at his post. They tricked the man into beliving they were Pentecostal, by lying. Who is the father of lies. They owe the public an apology. Whitman finally tunes into the show in hope of getting religion and what do they do? Lie to trick someone and are proud of it. You guys really should be ashamed and at the very least apologise to Whitman. What happens if you offend these little ones. Was that the way Jesus operated? Is there an honest church out there?

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J R fan wrote:
I noticed that also Whitman. Now the entire church community knows to expect the COC to lie so they can trick you for the show. Their little kids will do the same in life, because they watched their dads and their preachers do it. They may be in the Church of God(and they consider that acceptable) which they identifiedthemselves as , but everyone knows they do not consider the Cleveland Tn. COG as part of the church. That was the church Billy Williams was familiar with, raised in that church I believe, will have to look back at his post. They tricked the man into beliving they were Pentecostal, by lying. Who is the father of lies. They owe the public an apology. Whitman finally tunes into the show in hope of getting religion and what do they do? Lie to trick someone and are proud of it. You guys really should be ashamed and at the very least apologise to Whitman. What happens if you offend these little ones. Was that the way Jesus operated? Is there an honest church out there?
I rarely ever catch them on TV. I hope this isn't so. Although the name Church of God is Biblical, it seems as if they deceived this person intentionally. I'm not even a Christian and know better than this.

I wish Micah would come here and make a defense. Second thought, maybe he is here.

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Jul 1, 2011
 
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COC preachers from out of state on Religious Review last night shown going to preachers at other churches. They said they were with Church Of God and not with Church Of Christ. Just to get preachers to say things about Church Of Christ cult on hidden video camera. They lied and Micah Robertson approves of their lying!!!!!
No link to the video?
J R fan

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matt189 wrote:
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No link to the video?
If you were interested in a link or a copy of the violation of the rights of another individual, you could contact your buddies. They will proudly send you out a copy I am sure. That's how they raise their money. The man is plain on the tape that he does not want to be taped by the COC and considers it harassmant. That is why they have been taken to court over this type of stuff. Is this a pattern of the early church?

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Someone needs to tell them about my "warm can of soda" solution. Warm can of beer would be funnier, but warm soda is good.

Keep one with you. Keep it warm. When they start closing in, shake that can good and hard.

Then pop a top, being careful to point the can away from yourself, and have yourself a refreshing beverage. lol
Whitman

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If Micah Robertson and the COC preachers from out of town were being honest, then why did they identify themselves as Church Of God instead of what they call themselves all the time: Church Of Christ?

They were trying to deceive people. They lied about who they really were.
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Do you believe - honestly believe - that someone from the Church of Christ approaching someone who has said they believe Church of Christ is a 'cult', that this person being asked about what they think on the subject will be HONEST in answering questions on the topic to the one they are accusing?!:-)

Two wrongs don't make a right, but Church of God and Church of Christ, according to Scripture are one and the same name. Who is trying to kid whom on this subject.

Get some thicker skin if this bothers you. Welcome to the real world.
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Do you believe - honestly believe - that someone from the Church of Christ approaching someone who has said they believe Church of Christ is a 'cult', that this person being asked about what they think on the subject will be HONEST in answering questions on the topic to the one they are accusing?!:-)
Two wrongs don't make a right, but Church of God and Church of Christ, according to Scripture are one and the same name. Who is trying to kid whom on this subject.
Get some thicker skin if this bothers you. Welcome to the real world.
Church of God headquartered in Cleveland Tenn. is not the same as Church of Christ. Poe or what ever his name is, asked them if they were Church of God Cleveland Tenn. did he not? How can you say when two people come in for the purpose of secretly taping you and identify themselves wrongly that they are not deceptive. The purpose of being there to secretly tape this church and others is wrong and deceptive in itself. Show me on your site where Jesus sneaked around and did this stuff. Where is the authority? One wrong don't make a right either. The man was plain he did not want to be harassed by the COC. It is wrong to harass these people, they meet the COC at the entrances and ask them to leave their property. This the COC has shown themselves. They is an embarrassing shame upon the Lords church, they have been taken to court over it.
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I'm starting to see how this works, i appoligze for missing out on the topics. this is a lesson for me as it shoud be for everyone else,now that I'm gaining knowlege on how this works. I can't go back to the old way or change it . I surly if asked how do you do this? I could only tell them the truth. Just reminds me of the CoC Never go back to the wrong way.
Whitman

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Micah and Mark talked about me all night on their show last night. Micah still can't defend that he LIED and that the out of town COC preachers LIED. Why were those COC preachers out with hidden cameras and saying they were not Church Of Christ???? Does Micah and Johnny's cult call themselves Church Of God? No they do not!!!! They have even said Churches Of God are false Christians going to hell!!! They call themselves Church Of Christ and not Church Of God. How stupid does Micah think we are???? We see through their deception and evil ways. Micah the delusional son of his daddy the cult leader.
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A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies. Proverbs 14:5

Seems you guys are now false witnesses per The Bible and I think you just denied your "one true church". You have gone after Church of God preachers as "false" so you know the difference since they are not in your "true church" now are they?
Barnsweb

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J R fan wrote:
<quoted text>Church of God headquartered in Cleveland Tenn. is not the same as Church of Christ. Poe or what ever his name is, asked them if they were Church of God Cleveland Tenn. did he not? How can you say when two people come in for the purpose of secretly taping you and identify themselves wrongly that they are not deceptive. The purpose of being there to secretly tape this church and others is wrong and deceptive in itself. Show me on your site where Jesus sneaked around and did this stuff. Where is the authority? One wrong don't make a right either. The man was plain he did not want to be harassed by the COC. It is wrong to harass these people, they meet the COC at the entrances and ask them to leave their property. This the COC has shown themselves. They is an embarrassing shame upon the Lords church, they have been taken to court over it.
I did not see the interview, and as one poster said, one wrong does not make a right either. Yes, truth should prevail in our behavior in word and deed. I was speaking in a practical sense of how much people lie to each other. Is it any less a lie to 'deceive' about carnal business than carnal religion?

Many books have been written about 'cults', and this word is a sinister word to use towards those who do not follow a primary figure as LDS do with their founder Joseph Smith Jr. and his collection of pretended revelations from God to trump actual Scriptures. What we have with the Church of Christ is a broad array of individuals who seek to do the will of God - according to what we all consider to be the Holy Bible - and not some one man speaks for God mentality or blending paganism with Christianity.

Because of this distinction, those who pretend to say the Church of Christ is a cult are the ones who have caused the initial offense, and woe to those by whom offenses come. To a Christian, there should be no offense in the teachings of Jesus Christ, but many Churches have little use for the teachings of Jesus Christ when it comes to the focus of their faith.

I pray for the day that those who would call themselves disciples of Jesus Christ/ Christians would seek to do His Fathers will and instead of casting 'cult' stones, they would seek THE TRUTH in love and discuss this by speaking the truth in love.

If there is no honesty in the Lord's body, how can we expect honesty anywhere in society? It can only happen if we are both salt and light in this world during our own lifetime. The Lord may return sooner than we think, and if you really care about Jesus, you will be among those who wash off false doctrines to accept the true doctrine of God that Jesus preached.
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Micah and Mark talked about me all night on their show last night. Micah still can't defend that he LIED and that the out of town COC preachers LIED. Why were those COC preachers out with hidden cameras and saying they were not Church Of Christ???? Does Micah and Johnny's cult call themselves Church Of God? No they do not!!!! They have even said Churches Of God are false Christians going to hell!!! They call themselves Church Of Christ and not Church Of God. How stupid does Micah think we are???? We see through their deception and evil ways. Micah the delusional son of his daddy the cult leader.
So they were discussing you personally? Are you the one who called the Church of Christ a 'cult'?

You are speaking of carnal incorporated names. In Scripture we find early believers affiliated with these names:

'the way'
'the disciples'
'church of Christ'
'church of God'
'set apart believers'
'household of God'
and likely more.

According to Scripture there is only one body made up of many parts, with Jesus Christ at the head, and not a man, although local responsible offices do exist with Scriptural support and definition.

God is your judge, as He is for Johnny, me, or anyone here; and God is not mocked. May He have mercy on us and lead us to the real truth - not the truth of mere man made doctrines or the blind leading the blind to take masses into the eternal ditch.

There is a way that is TRUTH and right, but it seems we are too blind to see it at the moment.

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Micah and Mark talked about me all night on their show last night. Micah still can't defend that he LIED and that the out of town COC preachers LIED. Why were those COC preachers out with hidden cameras and saying they were not Church Of Christ???? Does Micah and Johnny's cult call themselves Church Of God? No they do not!!!! They have even said Churches Of God are false Christians going to hell!!! They call themselves Church Of Christ and not Church Of God. How stupid does Micah think we are???? We see through their deception and evil ways. Micah the delusional son of his daddy the cult leader.
And did you call in? Phone lines where open.
J R fan

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I did not see the interview, and as one poster said, one wrong does not make a right either. Yes, truth should prevail in our behavior in word and deed. I was speaking in a practical sense of how much people lie to each other. Is it any less a lie to 'deceive' about carnal business than carnal religion?
Many books have been written about 'cults', and this word is a sinister word to use towards those who do not follow a primary figure as LDS do with their founder Joseph Smith Jr. and his collection of pretended revelations from God to trump actual Scriptures. What we have with the Church of Christ is a broad array of individuals who seek to do the will of God - according to what we all consider to be the Holy Bible - and not some one man speaks for God mentality or blending paganism with Christianity.
Because of this distinction, those who pretend to say the Church of Christ is a cult are the ones who have caused the initial offense, and woe to those by whom offenses come. To a Christian, there should be no offense in the teachings of Jesus Christ, but many Churches have little use for the teachings of Jesus Christ when it comes to the focus of their faith.
I pray for the day that those who would call themselves disciples of Jesus Christ/ Christians would seek to do His Fathers will and instead of casting 'cult' stones, they would seek THE TRUTH in love and discuss this by speaking the truth in love.
If there is no honesty in the Lord's body, how can we expect honesty anywhere in society? It can only happen if we are both salt and light in this world during our own lifetime. The Lord may return sooner than we think, and if you really care about Jesus, you will be among those who wash off false doctrines to accept the true doctrine of God that Jesus preached.
I agree. The cult label does not offend me, because a long time (Don't ask me I would never be able to find the source) ago I read that the early followers of Jesus were considered to be a cult. We associate it today usually with a group of bizarre people.(EX. The group that committed suicide wearing Nike tennis shoes facing the direction they believed Haley's comet was coming from). The Baptist a long time ago labeled everyone else basically a cult through the writings of Walter Martin. At least the Baptist brethren I am familiar with were handing out his tracts and preaching that a lot. That has since changed and I rarely even hear it preached anymore. You probably remember all the "isms",lol. It is about following the bible and we all can and do stray from time to time.
The people on Johnny's show are considered leaders and have stooped to low,I believe. When we are in Christ, He lifts us up out of the mire, we are not to carry Him down into it by our actions. They badly need wise elders in their churches. This might have been prevented by their wisdom. Every Christian needs to constantly ask themselves if they by their actions want to bring what they do into the body of Christ. None of us do that enough.
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I did not see the interview, and as one poster said, one wrong does not make a right either. Yes, truth should prevail in our behavior in word and deed. I was speaking in a practical sense of how much people lie to each other. Is it any less a lie to 'deceive' about carnal business than carnal religion?
Many books have been written about 'cults', and this word is a sinister word to use towards those who do not follow a primary figure as LDS do with their founder Joseph Smith Jr. and his collection of pretended revelations from God to trump actual Scriptures. What we have with the Church of Christ is a broad array of individuals who seek to do the will of God - according to what we all consider to be the Holy Bible - and not some one man speaks for God mentality or blending paganism with Christianity.
Because of this distinction, those who pretend to say the Church of Christ is a cult are the ones who have caused the initial offense, and woe to those by whom offenses come. To a Christian, there should be no offense in the teachings of Jesus Christ, but many Churches have little use for the teachings of Jesus Christ when it comes to the focus of their faith.
I pray for the day that those who would call themselves disciples of Jesus Christ/ Christians would seek to do His Fathers will and instead of casting 'cult' stones, they would seek THE TRUTH in love and discuss this by speaking the truth in love.
If there is no honesty in the Lord's body, how can we expect honesty anywhere in society? It can only happen if we are both salt and light in this world during our own lifetime. The Lord may return sooner than we think, and if you really care about Jesus, you will be among those who wash off false doctrines to accept the true doctrine of God that Jesus preached.
I should say I don't believe the COC is a cult, since I go to one. I certainly don't believe them to be right about everything either. They put their pants on one leg at a time every morning, just like I do.
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<quoted text>Church of God headquartered in Cleveland Tenn. is not the same as Church of Christ. Poe or what ever his name is, asked them if they were Church of God Cleveland Tenn. did he not? How can you say when two people come in for the purpose of secretly taping you and identify themselves wrongly that they are not deceptive. The purpose of being there to secretly tape this church and others is wrong and deceptive in itself. Show me on your site where Jesus sneaked around and did this stuff. Where is the authority? One wrong don't make a right either. The man was plain he did not want to be harassed by the COC. It is wrong to harass these people, they meet the COC at the entrances and ask them to leave their property. This the COC has shown themselves. They is an embarrassing shame upon the Lords church, they have been taken to court over it.
Last sentence should read. In case they put my post on the tube again I want to make sure my hair is combed. ;O
They are an embarrassing shame upon the Lords church and they have been taken to court over it.

That sounds pretty rough.

Those type of actions are an embarrassing shame upon the Lords Church and they have been taken to court over it.

That statement is more fair and accurate since they have done other things that were beneficial to the Lords Church.
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Does this mean we can put up a "church of God" sign in front of the building on Starling Ave.?

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