Paul wrote about topix?
Caleb

United States

#1 Mar 27, 2013
Paul wrote to the church in Thessolonica to comfort them and see their faith in a time of persecution. He wrote in reference to those doing the persecuting... That's all that is taking place on topix.

" And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:(2 Thessalonians 1:7, 8 KJV)"

There were those that went against the gospel of Christ and Paul wrote that they were going to be repaid for their acts.

"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.(2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 KJV)"

Not just the prominent posters in topix, but any man who goes against the gospel. If a man wants to discard the truth and believe a lie, God is going to let them. But he will be judged in the last day.

All the falsehoods like: James being Johnny's cousin, Johnny's family running the church and claiming baptism is not needed for salvation. Is there any proof for all of this?
Don't attack a man who simply reads the book, logic would say you should be attacking the book for what it says.

Where Paul knew there would be those who did not want the truth, he wanted all to have the truth, and he strove to save "some" men.
" If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.(Romans 11:14 KJV)"

I do not know Whitman, but I love his soul. I wouldn't want anyone to be outside of the truth. I ask that we all take ONLY the Bible and what it teaches. Not what we think of a man. I want to use the bible, do you not?
TheWingsOfWisdom

San Antonio, TX

#2 Mar 27, 2013
Do you have the truth. Do you have the Spirit of Truth?
nobody

Dahlonega, GA

#3 Mar 27, 2013
Is there any proof that Eric and Scott are members of the Cleveland Tennessee church of God? They said they were and your brother and Mark defended that lie on TV by distorting what the bible said. Save your message for them.
TheWingsOfWisdom

San Antonio, TX

#4 Mar 27, 2013
nobody wrote:
Is there any proof that Eric and Scott are members of the Cleveland Tennessee church of God? They said they were and your brother and Mark defended that lie on TV by distorting what the bible said. Save your message for them.
Who cares, don't you think God can see, out of both his eyes.
Johnny do right

United States

#5 Mar 27, 2013
Caleb has Eric repented for his lie that your daddy covers?
Caleb

Germantown, TN

#6 Mar 27, 2013
TheWingsOfWisdom wrote:
<quoted text>Who cares, don't you think God can see, out of both his eyes.
I think God cares whether or not we obey his commands?

"If ye love me keep my commandments" John 14:15.

And yes I have the truth, I use the Bible for what it teaches. "Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free" John 8:32.
Joe blue

United States

#7 Mar 27, 2013
The TRUTH of John 8:32 is about Jesus. He is the truth that sets us free.
johnny

Stanley, NC

#8 Mar 27, 2013
i too love whitman and I appreciate caleb for reminding me that is our goal. I KNOW many are studying with fervency that is sure to bear some fruit.
God is glorified when we are made to search the scripture
TheWingsOfWisdom

San Antonio, TX

#9 Mar 27, 2013
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>
I think God cares whether or not we obey his commands?
"If ye love me keep my commandments" John 14:15.
And yes I have the truth, I use the Bible for what it teaches. "Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free" John 8:32.
You do not even keep the first commandment.
TheWingsOfWisdom

San Antonio, TX

#10 Mar 27, 2013
johnny wrote:
i too love whitman and I appreciate caleb for reminding me that is our goal. I KNOW many are studying with fervency that is sure to bear some fruit.
God is glorified when we are made to search the scripture
You're an idiot. And you do not know God. God is not glorified when you are made to search the Scripture you moron.
Barnsweb

Canton, OH

#11 Mar 28, 2013
True wisdom is to know God. Wings, which teachings of Y'shua do you believe give you the authority to call Johnny a moron for searching the Scriptures? If Y'shua said that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God - it would be demonic to pretend you know all of them without taking the time to study and understand and then live them. In fact, Y'shua taught that we should never call people who seek God 'empty headed'- which is akin to what you're doing above.

Sure, it's easy to cast some stones at most anyone - even Johnny, but those same stones can be directed right back at you when the Almighty demands your accountablity to what you charge others with when you have enough faults of your own to repent of.

The issue is that we come to know God 'face to face' as we look into the mirror through what Y'shua and the rest of Scripture teaches to be the truth we are to repent to do if we believe. That truth is the Doctrine of God as taught by His Son.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#12 Mar 28, 2013
Caleb wrote:
Paul wrote to the church in Thessolonica to comfort them and see their faith in a time of persecution. He wrote in reference to those doing the persecuting... That's all that is taking place on topix.
Caleb, you are not being persecuted. You are arrogant to claim you and your colleagues are the only true Christians. You are paranoid if you really think there is some kind of conspiracy against you.

If anyone is persecuting Christians, it is Johnny and Mark and James and Heath and Micah and you. Other Christians aren't barging into Martinsville Church of Christ to harass people during worship. Other Christians aren't harassing you with hidden cameras. Other Christians aren't stalking your children or lying about them by claiming they are part of child pornography.

All of these things, more even, your father and other CoC "preachers" have done and still do. You can't claim ignorance. If you think that you are the only real Christians and that excuses your arrogant, borderline criminal behavior, you need to get on your knees before God Himself and humble yourself before Him. You might beg forgiveness for your own trespasses against fellow Christians if you do.
Caleb wrote:
I do not know Whitman, but I love his soul. I wouldn't want anyone to be outside of the truth. I ask that we all take ONLY the Bible and what it teaches. Not what we think of a man. I want to use the bible, do you not?
We use the Bible. We also use the freedom God gave us.

You want everyone else to follow your interpretation of the Bible. You are being arrogant again, thinking you have the correct interpretation and everyone else is wrong. I have news for you sonny: your interpretation is not better or worse thanh anyone else's.

We don't need the ultra-legalistic Church of Christ you represent. We don't need Johnny Robertson. We don't need Mark Mcminnis. We don't need James Oldfield. We don't need Micah Robertson. We don't need Heath Paden. We don't need Caleb Robertson either.

Worship God as you think you need to and leave everyone else in peace to worship God. We have nothing to discuss with your Church Of Christ and we never will.
Caleb

Germantown, TN

#13 Mar 28, 2013
Olethros wrote:
<quoted text>Caleb, you are not being persecuted. You are arrogant to claim you and your colleagues are the only true Christians. You are paranoid if you really think there is some kind of conspiracy against you.

If anyone is persecuting Christians, it is Johnny and Mark and James and Heath and Micah and you. Other Christians aren't barging into Martinsville Church of Christ to harass people during worship. Other Christians aren't harassing you with hidden cameras. Other Christians aren't stalking your children or lying about them by claiming they are part of child pornography.

All of these things, more even, your father and other CoC "preachers" have done and still do. You can't claim ignorance. If you think that you are the only real Christians and that excuses your arrogant, borderline criminal behavior, you need to get on your knees before God Himself and humble yourself before Him. You might beg forgiveness for your own trespasses against fellow Christians if you do.

Caleb wrote, "I do not know Whitman, but I love his soul. I wouldn't want anyone to be outside of the truth. I ask that we all take ONLY the Bible and what it teaches. Not what we think of a man. I want to use the bible, do you not?"

We use the Bible. We also use the freedom God gave us.

You want everyone else to follow your interpretation of the Bible. You are being arrogant again, thinking you have the correct interpretation and everyone else is wrong. I have news for you sonny: your interpretation is not better or worse thanh anyone else's.

We don't need the ultra-legalistic Church of Christ you represent. We don't need Johnny Robertson. We don't need Mark Mcminnis. We don't need James Oldfield. We don't need Micah Robertson. We don't need Heath Paden. We don't need Caleb Robertson either.

Worship God as you think you need to and leave everyone else in peace to worship God. We have nothing to discuss with your Church Of Christ and we never will.
Really? Not being persecuted? Have you read topics? Borderline criminal activity? When we go to denominations simply to ask questions we do not disrupt their assembly, we ask questions when it is dismissed.

It is not MY "interpretation". There is not anything left to private interpretation.(2 Peter 1:20)

Paul said that we may understand the scriptures when we read (Ephesians 3:3-4). With all the division someone has to be wrong. I'm sorry, but the ones going against the Bible are wrong.

Please tell me, did christ not pay for unity?(John 17) is God the author of confusion?(1 Cor. 14: 33) Just because man thinks its good towards God, does that make it so?( John 16:2) Is their a standard by which we can know the truth? Yes.( 2 Timothy 3:16) "all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction and our instruction in righteousness." There is nothing we are going to say without scripture to follow. I don't understand.

There is so much hostility it's ridiculous. " I have news for you sonny". Thank you for getting me told on that.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#14 Mar 28, 2013
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? Not being persecuted? Have you read topics? Borderline criminal activity? When we go to denominations simply to ask questions we do not disrupt their assembly, we ask questions when it is dismissed.
Your brother Micah was found guilty of trespassing on church property in court of law. It won't be long before he's doing it again. If you are smart you will learn not to go places where your arrogant and aggressive behavior isn't welcome.
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>It is not MY "interpretation". There is not anything left to private interpretation.(2 Peter 1:20)
2nd Peter 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."

Peter is speaking of prophecy and scripture teaches that prophecy is not for one person but for edifying the church and always to God's glory. Paul wrote about it in 1st Corinthians.

Paul also said that prophecy and the other gifts are nothing without love. That love is the greatest thing a believer has.

You not only lack understanding of what Peter wrote in 2nd Peter, it's debatable whether you and the others in Johnny Robertson's Church of Christ understand what love means. To you its a license to bully and intimidate. Paul would not be proud of you. Neither would Peter.
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>Paul said that we may understand the scriptures when we read (Ephesians 3:3-4). With all the division someone has to be wrong.
Look in the mirror sonny. There is division staring back at you.

If you think you are right and everyone else is wrong, you have a pride problem.
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sorry, but the ones going against the Bible are wrong.
You have the perfect knowledge of the Bible? Your father Johnny has perfect knowledge of the Bible?

You don't get to judge who is going against the Bible.
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>Please tell me, did christ not pay for unity?(John 17)
Christ prayed for unity. You're trying to persecute people into unity.

We don't want unity with you and your father's "Church of Christ". It may be a church but it is not of Christ.
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text> is God the author of confusion?(1 Cor. 14: 33) Just because man thinks its good towards God, does that make it so?( John 16:2) Is their a standard by which we can know the truth? Yes.( 2 Timothy 3:16) "all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction and our instruction in righteousness." There is nothing we are going to say without scripture to follow.
We have the Holy Spirit to guide us along with scripture. If you believed in the Holy Spirit and not your own knowledge, you would know that.

You trust in your own knowledge more than you trust in Christ.

You are just another Gnostic like others before you.
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text> I don't understand.
That's the first honest and accurate thing you've said all week.
Caleb wrote:
<quoted text>There is so much hostility it's ridiculous.
So stop being hostile to Christians who are your brothers and sisters whether or not you like it.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#15 Mar 28, 2013
When Antichrist comes, it will be men like Johnny, Caleb, Micah, Mark, James and Shawn who will be some of the first to come to his side to persecute followers of Christ.

Johnny and his kind will persecute the Christians, will have them imprisoned and executed because people like Johnny, Caleb and the rest will believe they are "doing the Lord's work."

They will be like the Catholics did hundreds of years ago. The Catholic Church repented. The hyper-legalist Church of Christ that Johnny Robertson represents will not.
Walkinginlove

Danville, VA

#16 Mar 29, 2013
Caleb wrote:
I ask that we all take ONLY the Bible and what it teaches. Not what we think of a man.
Really? You really believe this? Let is test the Spirit and see.

Show me one example where the early Church did not allow a man sitting in their meeting to judge himself before the Lord's table was offered him? Your group refuses to serve the elements to anyone YOU judge as unworthy. You violate the word of God EVERY time you do this.

Show me one example of Ezra 10 being quoted and used to force divorce on a couple in the New Testament? Just one, I have been waiting 4 years now and yet to see one example of this practice, yet your group regularly states that unless you divorce and return to a previous marriage you are going to hell.

Show me one example of the New Testament church building a dedicated worship temple? I see them using their homes or meeting in the outdoors, fields etc.

Show me when the church was commanded to stop greeting with the Holy Kiss?

Show me where Peter said that the Holy Spirit is no longer for a believer to be indwell by, but instead his knowledge of God's word would replace the seal of our salvation? If not having the Holy Spirit indwell you was a problem for Paul in Acts 19, shouldn't it be a problem today?

Show me one example where someone already baptized in the name of Jesus Christ was re-baptized because they did not understand baptism properly and had to be taught? Show me how someone can crucify Christ to themselves since Hebrews 6 clearly speaks about NOT being able to crucify Christ to yourself a second time!!!

How do you crucify Christ to yourself the first time? Baptism would be the clear answer to me, what about you?

I can go on, but lets see, are you REALLY WILLING TO ALLOW the Bible to be our example, or is this the same old CoC double speak that really means, you need to do exactly as I do even though it's not biblical nor can be supported in the scriptures!

Speak where the Bible speaks, be silent where it is silent.

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