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Mike Conner

Ballwin, MO

#21 Dec 31, 2012
New Guy wrote:
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Here's an example of what I mean. When I reach the 'invitation' point of the message (real Biblical too isn't it), I don't say anything about "God's plan of salvation". I basically say that if anyone wants to become a Christian, here's what the Bible says we need to do. We talk of faith, repentance, confession, and baptism. The term plan of salvation is just 'churchspeak' for the initiated. Simply saying what needs to be said is good enough. How many times have we as the coc been attacked for using terms that we came up with? Why give the opposition fuel for the fire?
I understand your point. But I would answer someone in a denomination the same. Form and plan are both appropriate to use in describing the conditions for salvation.

And during the invitation I don't usually hear plan of salvation either. But if it is used its biblical to say.
New Guy

Lexington, KY

#22 Dec 31, 2012
Mike Conner wrote:
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I understand your point. But I would answer someone in a denomination the same. Form and plan are both appropriate to use in describing the conditions for salvation.
And during the invitation I don't usually hear plan of salvation either. But if it is used its biblical to say.
I understand your point, and I do actually agree with you. I see nothing wrong with talking about a plan of salvation. The problem we run into is when those very vocal critics say "I thought you only speak where the Bible speaks and are silent when the Bible is silent. Where does that plan of salvation appear? You can't find it in there." You know that it happens-just look at some of the silliness on here. The coc could make things easier on itself at times by the terms and phrases we use though.

Since: Dec 12

Royse City, TX

#23 Dec 31, 2012
New Guy wrote:
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I understand your point, and I do actually agree with you. I see nothing wrong with talking about a plan of salvation. The problem we run into is when those very vocal critics say "I thought you only speak where the Bible speaks and are silent when the Bible is silent. Where does that plan of salvation appear? You can't find it in there." You know that it happens-just look at some of the silliness on here. The coc could make things easier on itself at times by the terms and phrases we use though.
Totally agree, Dave. It is hard to tell other to stick to 'what does the bible say' when we opt for catchphrases ourselves.

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