Sanford Brown to close Collinsville campus

Jun 30, 2012 Full story: Alton Telegraph 34

The city's campus of Sanford Brown Colleges is being phased out and will be closed entirely by March 2014, a college administrator said Friday.

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anon

Collinsville, IL

#21 Aug 14, 2012
Sure Does wrote:
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I know ill have to start my classes over. And I have already attended Sandford Brown for 9 months now, so that is a bummber. But knowing that it isn't even worth it to finish there and worth it just to go somewere else, ill get over it. I wish I would have read more into my options before I chose my school.
Since when is an associates considered "finishing"? If you get your bachelors from SBC you can transfer credits to a masters program. If you can not figure that much out maybe you should just give up.
anon

Collinsville, IL

#22 Aug 14, 2012
anon wrote:
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Actually, I graduated from SBC with a bachelors, and I am not at Webster for my masters. My guess is you never went to this school, or your one of those people that felt their degree should be handed to them and you never did any work.
*I am NOW at Webster. sorry for the typo
guessin

United States

#23 Aug 14, 2012
Guesing you either blew someone or you were just a lucky one. I know several people that has went to that so called school. 90% of them had to pay again to go to a real school where the credits meant something. The other 10% had to take jobs that had nothing to do with their classes there. My aunt took their so-called nurses assistant classes, graduated with flying colors but couldnt get hired in that field because everyone knows SBC is a joke and wont hire people from there. Now she works as a cashier at a gas station. STILL PAYING SBC FOR NOTHING. Besides, who do you think you are kidding, everyone knows you dont have a job anyway trollboy.
BEEN THERE

New Baden, IL

#24 Aug 14, 2012
Sure Does wrote:
Yes, it is a bummer they are closing. I currently attend there, but I am going to try and go to SWIC, because I have heard from many people who have graduated from there havent gotten jobs, or they havent helped with job placement. Overall I really like the school and the instructors, its a shame.
You will have to start all over. I revd my Associates Degree and it means nothing. Also, owe a bunch of money over the school. They even told me that they were ACCREDITED LIE!!!!
StayClassyLassie

Belleville, IL

#25 Oct 22, 2012
It does kind of suck they are leaving Collinsville. Hate to see another empty building out there.

I went to SBC for both Associates (Paralegal) and Bachelors (Business Management) and finished in '06. I still haven't landed a career-type job, but I don't blame the school. They do offer job placement ASSISTANCE- not a guaranteed job. I get irritated when I see people gripe about not getting their "promised" job after graduating. Getting a job is all on you and you alone, not some other institution. Life is what YOU make it, not the people around you.

That being said, I am not a total fan of SBC for reasons that are my own- including them not being honest about their accreditation. They are accredited, but not in the same accreditation body as your state schools. This is annoying because I'm at a point in my life where I have realized that my degree choices in the past are not what I really want to do and I need to go back to college to do what I know I want to do. If I had known then that I couldn't transfer my SBC credits anywhere other than Webster, I wouldn't have gone to SBC.

So now, I'm stuck with either starting all over again at SWIC or Lewis and Clark or going to Webster (way more expensive) for a second Bachelor's degree (Education/English) so that I can then look for a grad school somewhere for Library Science (UofI?). No matter what, its a long road.

Does anyone know if Webster degrees transfer to state schools?
mahz

Saint Louis, MO

#26 Oct 22, 2012
anon wrote:
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Explain to me why I have a job in accounting two weeks after graduation. Explain to me why my credits transferred to Webster for my masters degree.
Only a few of their programs are accredited. One of those is the accounting program.
mahz

Saint Louis, MO

#27 Oct 22, 2012
Or possibly accounting doesn't really need accreditation like say nursing or medical assistants?
mahz

Saint Louis, MO

#28 Oct 22, 2012
Also, at most universities you can request to test out of any class you have taken before but for which they will not give you credit.
just sayin

Saint Louis, MO

#29 Oct 28, 2012
mahz wrote:
Or possibly accounting doesn't really need accreditation like say nursing or medical assistants?
All colleges that award any kind of degree have to be accredited in order to be recognized by the USDE;that would include accounting degrees. As a graduate of SBC with my associates in billing and coding I will say that no degree is really worth a damn without the graduate willing to do the legwork to put themselves out there to get the good job. And it's very possible as long as you hone your interview skills and make it work. After that, it's a matter of putting forth the work ethic to keep your job and move up in your field.
What I saw a lot of at SBC was "students" screwing around, sucking up student loan money, not taking their classes seriously and using going to school as an excuse not to actually move forward and succeed in life. I don't find it to be a coincidence that these are generally the same people that if they do graduate claim they cannot find a job and throw the blame on the school. Any person who is really hard pressed and doesn't have the option of failing will get in and get out with the best grade possible so that they can get on with the next and better chapter in their life. These are also the people that generally succeed in finding jobs. Again, this is no coincidence.
mahz

Belleville, IL

#30 Oct 28, 2012
just sayin wrote:
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All colleges that award any kind of degree have to be accredited in order to be recognized by the USDE;that would include accounting degrees. As a graduate of SBC with my associates in billing and coding I will say that no degree is really worth a damn without the graduate willing to do the legwork to put themselves out there to get the good job. And it's very possible as long as you hone your interview skills and make it work. After that, it's a matter of putting forth the work ethic to keep your job and move up in your field.
What I saw a lot of at SBC was "students" screwing around, sucking up student loan money, not taking their classes seriously and using going to school as an excuse not to actually move forward and succeed in life. I don't find it to be a coincidence that these are generally the same people that if they do graduate claim they cannot find a job and throw the blame on the school. Any person who is really hard pressed and doesn't have the option of failing will get in and get out with the best grade possible so that they can get on with the next and better chapter in their life. These are also the people that generally succeed in finding jobs. Again, this is no coincidence.
Not all of Sanford Browns programs are accredited.
just sayin

Saint Louis, MO

#31 Oct 28, 2012
mahz wrote:
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Not all of Sanford Browns programs are accredited.
Perhaps not the programs where you only earn a "certificate" or "diploma." But anything where the student earns an associates degree or higher must be accredited.
mahz

Belleville, IL

#32 Oct 28, 2012
just sayin wrote:
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Perhaps not the programs where you only earn a "certificate" or "diploma." But anything where the student earns an associates degree or higher must be accredited.
They are nationally accredited, but not necessarily locally. That can cause serious problems. Like it did for this lady.

http://www.barryyeoman.com/articles/hardknock...

"Then came the shocker: When Issa tried to get her professional credentials, the American Registry for Diagnostic Medical Sonography, a nonprofit certifying body, informed her that she was ineligible to take its registration exam. Issa was astonished to learn that although Sanford-Brown was accredited, its ultrasound curriculum was notóa detail she says the recruiter neglected to mention.(The school says the information was in a written disclosure given to Issa during registration.) Graduates of unaccredited programs can't take the exam without 12 months of work experienceóbut no employer would hire Issa unless she'd taken the exam. "

OR this lady

http://www.guidetohealthcareschools.com/healt...

"I just wanted to write a warning to perspective students looking for information about this school. I went in one day for some information about the Medical Diagnostic Sonography Program. I spoke with admissions counselor Ebony Gantt. Because I did not have the collective college credits required to go directly into the sonography program, I given a list of various other programs I could take as a pre-requisite to qualify for the program. I chose the Medical Assistant course. I was told by Ms. Gantt that the course was nine months long. It is in fact a year program. I was also told that once the course was completed, I could go directly into the sonography program.

That is not true, once the medical assistant program is completed, I would still be five credits short of being allowed into the sonography program. Those five additional credits are NOT obtainable at Sanford Brown Institue. I was additionally told by Ms. Gantt that their sonography program as well as the medical assistance program were ACCREDITED programs. This is also false. The ONLY accredited program offered by Sanford Brown Institute is their Surgical Tech program. Upon hearing the programs were falsely represented to me, I decided to go to Keiser University.

Their program IS accredited, the site link to Tallahassee accredidations supports this. It also clearly shows Sanford Brown does not hold any of the accredidations their counselors maintain, the only exception being the surgical tech program. There was alot of resistance given when I requested my application fee be refunded as the 3 day period to change my mind had passed. I pursued this with the Director of Admissions who agreed the program was falsely represented by admissions, and he agreed to refund my application fee. I am still waiting for it.

Word to the wise- DO YOUR RESEARCH. Know where you can find information on your own so that you do not fall victim to the admission counselors of this school."
just sayin

Saint Louis, MO

#33 Oct 28, 2012
mahz wrote:
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They are nationally accredited, but not necessarily locally. That can cause serious problems. Like it did for this lady.
http://www.barryyeoman.com/articles/hardknock...
"Then came the shocker: When Issa tried to get her professional credentials, the American Registry for Diagnostic Medical Sonography, a nonprofit certifying body, informed her that she was ineligible to take its registration exam. Issa was astonished to learn that although Sanford-Brown was accredited, its ultrasound curriculum was notóa detail she says the recruiter neglected to mention.(The school says the information was in a written disclosure given to Issa during registration.) Graduates of unaccredited programs can't take the exam without 12 months of work experienceóbut no employer would hire Issa unless she'd taken the exam. "
OR this lady
http://www.guidetohealthcareschools.com/healt...
"I just wanted to write a warning to perspective students looking for information about this school. I went in one day for some information about the Medical Diagnostic Sonography Program. I spoke with admissions counselor Ebony Gantt. Because I did not have the collective college credits required to go directly into the sonography program, I given a list of various other programs I could take as a pre-requisite to qualify for the program. I chose the Medical Assistant course. I was told by Ms. Gantt that the course was nine months long. It is in fact a year program. I was also told that once the course was completed, I could go directly into the sonography program.
That is not true, once the medical assistant program is completed, I would still be five credits short of being allowed into the sonography program. Those five additional credits are NOT obtainable at Sanford Brown Institue. I was additionally told by Ms. Gantt that their sonography program as well as the medical assistance program were ACCREDITED programs. This is also false. The ONLY accredited program offered by Sanford Brown Institute is their Surgical Tech program. Upon hearing the programs were falsely represented to me, I decided to go to Keiser University.
Their program IS accredited, the site link to Tallahassee accredidations supports this. It also clearly shows Sanford Brown does not hold any of the accredidations their counselors maintain, the only exception being the surgical tech program. There was alot of resistance given when I requested my application fee be refunded as the 3 day period to change my mind had passed. I pursued this with the Director of Admissions who agreed the program was falsely represented by admissions, and he agreed to refund my application fee. I am still waiting for it.
Word to the wise- DO YOUR RESEARCH. Know where you can find information on your own so that you do not fall victim to the admission counselors of this school."
Yes, this is true. You cannot blame someone else for your own ignorance. Do your homework. When I went to SBC I was aware that my credits would only transfer to certain places but I was willing to compromise because of the convenience of it being in Collinsville. I worked very hard and graduated with a 3.52 GPA and am currently working in my field and looking into working on my bachelors at either Webster or University of Pheonix--2 schools that I know for sure do accept SBC credits.
Brian

Edwardsville, IL

#34 Oct 28, 2012
If a school in Illinois does not have its classes certified by the Illinois Articulation Initiative good luck on transferring them. Ask for the IAI number on any given classes.
Try taking the CPA exam with a SBC Degree...they will laugh at you

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