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Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions

There are 52086 comments on the CBS2 story from Nov 30, 2010, titled Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil Unions. In it, CBS2 reports that:

The Illinois House has approved a measure to legalize civil unions for same-sex couples.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#32764 May 13, 2012
TXgurl wrote:
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Ok, let's play a scenario here... Let's say that being gay is a defect. If it is, then why discriminate against gays? People with defects get married every day. Dwarves get married, theirs is clearly a genetic defect. I have seen 2 people with Downes Syndrome get married, theirs is clearly a genetic defect. I have seen people who were previously circus freaks (and I mean that was their job) get married, they clearly have defects. Why should all of the others with their obvious defects be allowed to get married, and gays are discriminated against?? If gays aren't allowed to get married then all of those others who are "defective" shouldn't be allowed to marry either according to your reasoning.
There is no discrimination. Marriage has never been a right for members of the same sex. In all the cases you mention, opposite sex has been the determining qualification for marriage. All of the genetic defects you list are apart from the identity of marriage. You are demanding that a defect that distorts the core identity of marriage be equated with marriage. It is nothing more than a forced imposing of a imposter relationship on the foundational relationship of society. Gays still have every right to pursue appropriate rights for civil unions.

It is one thing to admit you have a genetic disorder. It is another thing to respond realistically to the consequences of that disorder. You are claiming it is maybe a difference, and with no real distinctive impacts. Very close to pure denial.

I have three nipples. I don't hate myself for it, I had no choice in the matter. I have faced numerous consequences through my life because of that (as you can imagine). I have never pretended that is normal. Some consequences have been painful emotionally and physically. But my responses have made me a strikingly unique person in numerous good and positive ways exactly because of my 'defects'.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#32765 May 13, 2012
Mockababy wrote:
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I love how you think you have such insight into our "denial". Denial was trying to be straight and being miserable. Even if I were to stop being in denial that I have a defect as you put it, that doesn't change a damn thing, how would admitting it change my life in the least?
"All of human history" is also irrelvant. Appealing to tradition is a fallacy. Most of human history is beyond brutal and ignorant and perverse, it's a ridiculous thing to appeal to.
So we have the right to have relationships but not to have those relationships protected under law? You see marriage from a religious traditional standpoint apparently but for many marriage is nothing more than a legal contract. A very important one when it comes to your partner being in the hospital or dying or their children. Your sentiments about marriage are irrelevant.
I am a genetic chimera (hence my post handle). Look it up. Specifically, a very unique triple chimera. A hermaphrodite lesbian trapped in a straight man's body. So, yes I identify with a lesbian, transgendered straight people's denial. You do not compete in any way shape or form!

Pair bonding is called marriage among human animals. It crosses into every single culture where 'traditions' exist. Hardly tradition, more like natural nature.

Never have I asserted gays don't have rights and protections. Why would you assert such a thing? Civil unions are a legitimate option. Marriage is not.

Furthermore, I have never used religion as a basis for my opposition.

It is apparent from your responses that you are terminally affected with denial.

Since: May 12

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#32767 May 13, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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There is no discrimination. Marriage has never been a right for members of the same sex. In all the cases you mention, opposite sex has been the determining qualification for marriage. All of the genetic defects you list are apart from the identity of marriage. You are demanding that a defect that distorts the core identity of marriage be equated with marriage. It is nothing more than a forced imposing of a imposter relationship on the foundational relationship of society. Gays still have every right to pursue appropriate rights for civil unions.
It is one thing to admit you have a genetic disorder. It is another thing to respond realistically to the consequences of that disorder. You are claiming it is maybe a difference, and with no real distinctive impacts. Very close to pure denial.
I have three nipples. I don't hate myself for it, I had no choice in the matter. I have faced numerous consequences through my life because of that (as you can imagine). I have never pretended that is normal. Some consequences have been painful emotionally and physically. But my responses have made me a strikingly unique person in numerous good and positive ways exactly because of my 'defects'.
The "core identity of marriage" has changed many times over throughout history. You people just have a bazaar sentimental attachment to the most recent incarnation.

Since: Feb 12

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#32768 May 13, 2012
Mockababy wrote:
<quoted text>
Gee that's funny, when I tried to choose being straight it still didn't make guys any more attractive to me. Explain how I am suppose to force that.
You lesbians are hilarious most of your relationships one of you is butch the other is lipstick and you use sex toys that are modeled after a man can you explain this if your not turned on by men

Since: May 12

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#32769 May 13, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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I am a genetic chimera (hence my post handle). Look it up. Specifically, a very unique triple chimera. A hermaphrodite lesbian trapped in a straight man's body. So, yes I identify with a lesbian, transgendered straight people's denial. You do not compete in any way shape or form!
Pair bonding is called marriage among human animals. It crosses into every single culture where 'traditions' exist. Hardly tradition, more like natural nature.
Never have I asserted gays don't have rights and protections. Why would you assert such a thing? Civil unions are a legitimate option. Marriage is not.
Furthermore, I have never used religion as a basis for my opposition.
It is apparent from your responses that you are terminally affected with denial.
The only thing I am in denial of apparently is that it's a defect, which you have yet to prove. My being in denial is therefore merely your opinion.

If civil unions were to gain all the rights and protections marriage provides why call them something different. The only reason people have given is their sentimental attachment to the word. There is NO good reason to have two seperate things.

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#32770 May 13, 2012
robot chicken wrote:
<quoted text>You lesbians are hilarious most of your relationships one of you is butch the other is lipstick and you use sex toys that are modeled after a man can you explain this if your not turned on by men
Are you seriously this stupid?

“Free to buy cake”

Since: Jul 07

wherever I like.

#32771 May 13, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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I am a genetic chimera (hence my post handle). Look it up. Specifically, a very unique triple chimera. A hermaphrodite lesbian trapped in a straight man's body. So, yes I identify with a lesbian, transgendered straight people's denial. You do not compete in any way shape or form!
Pair bonding is called marriage among human animals. It crosses into every single culture where 'traditioki Ins' exist. Hardly tradition, more like natural nature.
Never have I asserted gays don't have rights and protections. Why would you assert such a thing? Civil unions are a legitimate option. Marriage is not.
Furthermore, I have never used religion as a basis for my opposition.
It is apparent from your responses that you are terminally affected with denial.
We got it already, you're the biggest f'n freak in the room. Congratulations. In the meantime you haven't proven jack shit. You've just expressed your opinions.
Ain't nobody gonna jump on your denial train, so enjoy the lonely ride.

“Free your mind”

Since: Dec 10

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#32772 May 13, 2012
robot chicken wrote:
<quoted text>You lesbians are hilarious most of your relationships one of you is butch the other is lipstick and you use sex toys that are modeled after a man can you explain this if your not turned on by men
I don't know where you get your information from, but I know a lot of lesbians, and there are different types of couples. I have seen what you talked about, a butch and a femme... but I have also seen 2 femmes together and 2 butches together. It isn't about one of them trying to be a man. The thought of a penis disgusts me. And, for your information, fingers work just fine... don't need toys.

Since: Feb 12

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#32773 May 13, 2012
robot chicken wrote:
<quoted text>You lesbians are hilarious most of your relationships one of you is butch the other is lipstick and you use sex toys that are modeled after a man can you explain this if your not turned on by men
Are you for real? If we were turned on by men then why wouldn't we just go after men? Not all lesbians use sex toys. And are you implying the only significant thing between doing a girl and a guy is the presence of a penis? Really? The ONLY thing that attracts you to girls are their sexual organs? Nothing else about them at all that makes you more attracted to them than men? I find this difficult to believe.
618the great

United States

#32774 May 13, 2012
The chic I met only charged me 20 bucks. she was the only chic that knew how to use a strap on. Centerville is gansters paradise. I love being dominated.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#32775 May 13, 2012
Mockababy wrote:
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The "core identity of marriage" has changed many times over throughout history. You people just have a bazaar sentimental attachment to the most recent incarnation.
BS

Please explain how the core identity of a husband and wife who become a father and mother has changed over the whole of human existence.

This is where a gay talking point has to be defined. This should be good...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#32776 May 13, 2012
Marengo Jon wrote:
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We got it already, you're the biggest f'n freak in the room. Congratulations. In the meantime you haven't proven jack shit. You've just expressed your opinions.
Ain't nobody gonna jump on your denial train, so enjoy the lonely ride.
So much for the sympathy in coming out...

You sure get upset over a few 'opinions'. Wonder why that is?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#32777 May 13, 2012
Mockababy wrote:
<quoted text>
The only thing I am in denial of apparently is that it's a defect, which you have yet to prove. My being in denial is therefore merely your opinion.
If civil unions were to gain all the rights and protections marriage provides why call them something different. The only reason people have given is their sentimental attachment to the word. There is NO good reason to have two seperate things.
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love

If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage

If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage

If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders

If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history

If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no effect

If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships

If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity

If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent

If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act

If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end

If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest

If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none

If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'

Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.

“Free to buy cake”

Since: Jul 07

wherever I like.

#32778 May 13, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
So much for the sympathy in coming out...
You sure get upset over a few 'opinions'. Wonder why that is?
Because YOU would have us believe you speak facts. Many, myself included, have reminded you that these are merely your opinions.

“Free to buy cake”

Since: Jul 07

wherever I like.

#32779 May 13, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Yawn. Pasted text from Spamatha central.

Tedious, oh brilliant but defective one.

Since: Feb 12

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#32780 May 13, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love
If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage
If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage
If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders
If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history
If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no effect
If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships
If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity
If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent
If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act
If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end
If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest
If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none
If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'
Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
It won't prevent love, but this isn't about love.

Where do we demand that demand that any committed relationship has to be called marriage?

How is it an imposition on marriage?

Why does redundancy matter?

Appeal to tradition, invalid.

It WONT have any effect, I am curious as to what effect YOU think there will be though.

What crucial distinctions, what's so crucial?

"If you pretend duplicating sexuality is the same as blending masculinity and femininity" Wtf are you even talking about?

Why is it necessary that a child have a parent of both genders?

A harmful act, and what's so harmful about it, what manipulation, wtf are you evening going on about?

Violate, lawl, as if evolution gives a fuck if a few members of the species doesn't reproduce. Irrelevant to marriage.

Lawl, healthy in what way?

Reproduction, once again irrelevant.

What a bunch of horseshit.

Since: Feb 12

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#32781 May 13, 2012
Homosexuals getting married won't effect your heterosexual marriages in the slightest, get over yourself.
mclovinthegreat6 18

United States

#32782 May 13, 2012
Something about a bad chic with a strap on. That doesnt make me completely gay. It wasn't a guy that time. And no condom needed. Just wash of the dong and throw it in the toybox. I have been collecting new toys and lube. Don't even need her back. Don't even want a woman now. She won't love me right. Plastic is so much better. Now she doesn't even have the warm soft shaft I need now. Remember to recycle.

Since: Feb 12

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#32783 May 13, 2012
Boring troll, you'll have to try harder than that to piss people off.
True butt

United States

#32784 May 13, 2012
As long as I have had to dream about the real thing..i have decided I truly love it in my butt. I'm up here in the hideout on the hill starving.please bring food to triple lakes road. My booty is still lubed ever since last night with my new toys. and if you are a woman I will help you pit it on. It is real easy.prefer you be a guy though

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