Denny's discriminates against the 'only ones'

Jan 3, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Examiner.com

Those who own firearms and carry them for self-defense are used to finding businesses that discriminate against them by posting "No Firearms Allowed" signs, in the hope of providing a "safe location" for employees and/or customers.

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cant see it

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Why any person would complain about police officers carrying a firearm into a resturant would complain is beyond me and just plain stupid.
As dangerous as society has become I would think they would take comfort knowing there was police in the resturant. The manager of that Denny's should be fired and the people who own Denny's should publicly apologize to the Belleville Police Department.
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Jan 3, 2013
 
I just read the story and am not from the area. I am curious why the woman complained? If she seen the gun, did she see a badge? I think if she was afraid, she would have left so I believe she knew they were officers.
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Jan 3, 2013
 
I never seen anything in the article saying it was a man or woman complaining. That's not the issue. The issue is, these are police officers and anyone with a reasonable amount of intelligience would understand that.
That was a bad call from the manager and once people think about that, their business is going to drop off because normal people respect the police.
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cant see it wrote:
I never seen anything in the article saying it was a man or woman complaining. That's not the issue. The issue is, these are police officers and anyone with a reasonable amount of intelligience would understand that.
That was a bad call from the manager and once people think about that, their business is going to drop off because normal people respect the police.
The story I read stated it was a woman. I agree that it was a bad call, I was just curious.
Why can cops break laws

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Jan 3, 2013
 
Kevin Widener wrote:
I just read the story and am not from the area. I am curious why the woman complained? If she seen the gun, did she see a badge? I think if she was afraid, she would have left so I believe she knew they were officers.
She saw a gun, they were Detectives, they dont wear cop uniforms, but their own clothes or sports coats and plain clothes.
If the Denny's has a general policy against guns, it applies to ALL. The Manager was enforcing it, or he might lose his job for not. Otherwise, should cops be allowed to talk or text on cells phones while driving? Speed (not to a call). Run lights?
No guns allowed applies to all, unless they were there on an official call or duty, not break to eat.
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cant see it wrote:
I never seen anything in the article saying it was a man or woman complaining. That's not the issue. The issue is, these are police officers and anyone with a reasonable amount of intelligience would understand that.
That was a bad call from the manager and once people think about that, their business is going to drop off because normal people respect the police.
Maybe the manager was enforcing franchise or corporate rules. If there is no exceptions or leeway, he has no choice.

You actually think the place is that much safer because cops are eating omlettes there? They all could be chowing down and a nut comes in and shots the all before they have a chance to put down their forks and pull weapons.
The NRA is retarded. The good guys with guns DONT always win. There are about 50 cops and various forms of L.E. per yr who die in shootouts. Having a gun does NOT ensure protection or being on the winning side.
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Why can cops break laws wrote:
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Maybe the manager was enforcing franchise or corporate rules. If there is no exceptions or leeway, he has no choice.
You actually think the place is that much safer because cops are eating omlettes there? They all could be chowing down and a nut comes in and shots the all before they have a chance to put down their forks and pull weapons.
The NRA is retarded. The good guys with guns DONT always win. There are about 50 cops and various forms of L.E. per yr who die in shootouts. Having a gun does NOT ensure protection or being on the winning side.
1) you are a flipping idiot 2) kudos to chief clay for standing behind his officers. 3)boycott denny's until they publically confirm that the manager that asked the officers to leave has been fired.
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I saw this on stlracing.com .. You can bet your ass racers wont be eating there anymore.. The manager is a complete moron... Their business has been going downhill due to worsening service, and tacky looking waitresses... this may be more than they can overcome..
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The manager at the local Dennys should be removed from his position by the corporation and an apology should be offered. Law enforcement officers are required to carry their weapons as well as their id's at all times when they are on duty and, by many police departments, when they are off duty as well. One wonders how this self-important little man treats others. The chief did the right thing and should have no regrets about calling for his department to abstain from patronizing Dennys.
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What issues did the complainant have with plain clothes officers carrying their weapons?
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This is a private business, which really falls into the category of private property. If the company or their responsible agent doesn't want guns on the property so be it. These whiny asz babies hate to be regulated in the same way they regulate. They think they are above the law even on someone else's property. If you are not on a call to that particular location or on official business, then you must oblige the owner's requests/requirements on his/her property. LEOSA CLEARLY states this!
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Denny's did the right thing. They sent a rep. to talk the Belleville Police and apologized for the actions of one of their employees.
It's over and that was the right thing to do!
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Why can cops break laws wrote:
<quoted text>She saw a gun, they were Detectives, they dont wear cop uniforms, but their own clothes or sports coats and plain clothes.
If the Denny's has a general policy against guns, it applies to ALL. The Manager was enforcing it, or he might lose his job for not. Otherwise, should cops be allowed to talk or text on cells phones while driving? Speed (not to a call). Run lights?
No guns allowed applies to all, unless they were there on an official call or duty, not break to eat.
You are wrong . They had their badges displayed and radios on the table. Police officer /detective will not surrender their weapons to a Denny's manager come on now get real
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funny wrote:
This is a private business, which really falls into the category of private property. If the company or their responsible agent doesn't want guns on the property so be it. These whiny asz babies hate to be regulated in the same way they regulate. They think they are above the law even on someone else's property. If you are not on a call to that particular location or on official business, then you must oblige the owner's requests/requirements on his/her property. LEOSA CLEARLY states this!
So are you saying when a police officer see a gun free sign at a school he is not allowed to carry his side arm ?
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So are you saying when a police officer see a gun free sign at a school he is not allowed to carry his side arm ?
Read the law dingbat. LEOSA. They were on lunch break, so in most cases you are "not on the clock".

"Conflict between LEOSA and other laws

Although the general effect of LEOSA is to override state and local law, this is subject to limitations. LEOSA does not override:[3][4][5]

state laws permitting private property owners from limiting or prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons on their property (such as public bars, private clubs, and places such as amusement parks)
state laws prohibiting carrying concealed weapons on state or local government property (such as courthouses, schools or parks)."

Even if the officers were on duty, they could be told to leave ANY private property if not on a call response, viewing a violation or commission of crime, or without a warrant for search and seizure. You Illinois turds are so couped up in your policed state.
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Jan 6, 2013
 
geesh wrote:
<quoted text>Read the law dingbat. LEOSA. They were on lunch break, so in most cases you are "not on the clock".

"Conflict between LEOSA and other laws

Although the general effect of LEOSA is to override state and local law, this is subject to limitations. LEOSA does not override:[3][4][5]

state laws permitting private property owners from limiting or prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons on their property (such as public bars, private clubs, and places such as amusement parks)
state laws prohibiting carrying concealed weapons on state or local government property (such as courthouses, schools or parks)."

Even if the officers were on duty, they could be told to leave ANY private property if not on a call response, viewing a violation or commission of crime, or without a warrant for search and seizure. You Illinois turds are so couped up in your policed state.
You call me a name but u never answered the question It's not in the best interest of the business.
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You call me a name but u never answered the question It's not in the best interest of the business.
I more than answered the question tard.
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You call me a name but u never answered the question It's not in the best interest of the business.
You are ONE social vote of many about "the best interest" of the business.

Go back to your policed chicken coupe. Better call the government and ask when, where, and how to sh1t you tool.
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Read the law dingbat. LEOSA. They were on lunch break, so in most cases you are "not on the clock".
No such thing as on or off the clock when you are on your tour. You can call in for break or meal time and they wont give you any non-emergency calls.
If there is a call right in the middle of your lunch concerning a fire, accident with injury or violent crime in commission, you have to respond to and leave your break/meal.
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cocopeabrain wrote:
<quoted text>You are ONE social vote of many about "the best interest" of the business.

Go back to your policed chicken coupe. Better call the government and ask when, where, and how to sh1t you tool.
You just don't know what you are speaking about

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