What role should religion play in cho...

What role should religion play in choosing a president?

There are 10 comments on the MLive.com story from Oct 16, 2011, titled What role should religion play in choosing a president?. In it, MLive.com reports that:

A statement last week by an evangelical pastor raised the question of religious faith and public office - one that has cropped up frequently in U.S. history.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at MLive.com.

blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#1 Oct 17, 2011
It should be a huge consideration. I don't want a president that thinks that every time we go to war, we have Jesus on our side, or consider any war a "holy war" History has shown us where that leads. I don't want a President so ignorant of science that they believe the earth is only 2,000 years old, and that dinosaurs walked among us.
True Christian

Muskogee, OK

#2 Oct 18, 2011
It is the Muslim belief they are fighting their Holy War for their god Allah and his supremecy or sovereignty of this earth.

America is a nation that is estblished on the belief that the majority of Americans are Christians therefore under the guidance and protection of the Christian Trinity god, Jesus.

Being identified as one nation under God has always meant that this nation is Christian, even if in name only.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#3 Oct 18, 2011
True Christian wrote:
It is the Muslim belief they are fighting their Holy War for their god Allah and his supremecy or sovereignty of this earth.
America is a nation that is estblished on the belief that the majority of Americans are Christians therefore under the guidance and protection of the Christian Trinity god, Jesus.
Being identified as one nation under God has always meant that this nation is Christian, even if in name only.
I'm not sure of the point you are trying to make

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#4 Oct 19, 2011
From the U.S. Constitution; Article VI
"...but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#5 Oct 19, 2011
True Christian wrote:
It is the Muslim belief they are fighting their Holy War for their god Allah and his supremecy or sovereignty of this earth.
America is a nation that is estblished on the belief that the majority of Americans are Christians therefore under the guidance and protection of the Christian Trinity god, Jesus.
Being identified as one nation under God has always meant that this nation is Christian, even if in name only.
The Fundamentalist Agenda
http://www.uuworld.org/2004/01/feature2.html

From 1988 to 1993, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences sponsored an interdisciplinary study known as The Fundamentalism Project, the largest such study ever done. More than 100 scholars from all over the world took part, reporting on every imaginable kind of fundamentalism. And what they discovered was that the agenda of all fundamentalist movements in the world is virtually identical, regardless of religion or culture.

They identified five characteristics shared by virtually all fundamentalisms.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#6 Oct 19, 2011
The fundamentalists' agenda starts with insistence that their rules must be made to apply to all people, and to all areas of life. There can be no separation of church and state, or of public and private areas of life. The rigid rules of God—and they never doubt that they and only they have got these right—must become the law of the land. Pat Robertson, again, has said that just as Supreme Court justices place a hand on the Bible and swear to uphold the Constitution, so they should also place a hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible. In Khomeini's Iran, and in the recent Taliban rule of Afghanistan, we saw how brutal and bloody this looks in real time.

The second agenda item is really at the top of the list, and it's vulgarly simple: Men are on top. Men are bigger and stronger, and they rule not only through physical strength but also and more importantly through their influence on the laws and rules of the land. Men set the boundaries. Men define the norms, and men enforce them. They also define women, and they define them through narrowly conceived biological functions. Women are to be supportive wives, mothers, and homemakers.

A third item follows from the others.(Indeed each part of the fundamentalist agenda is necessarily interlocked, and needs every other part to survive.) Since there is only one right picture of the world, one right set of beliefs, and one right set of roles for men, women, and children, it is imperative that this picture and these rules be communicated precisely to the next generation. Therefore, fundamentalists must control education by controlling textbooks and teaching styles, deciding what may and may not be taught.

Fourth, fundamentalists spurn the modern, and want to return to a nostalgic vision of a golden age that never really existed. Several of the scholars observed a strong and deep resemblance between fundamentalism and fascism. Both have almost identical agendas. Men are on top, women are subservient, there is one rigid set of rules, with police and military might to enforce them, and education is tightly controlled by the state. One scholar suggested that it's helpful to understand fundamentalism as religious fascism, and fascism as political fundamentalism. The phrase “overcoming the modern” is a fascist slogan dating back to at least 1941.

The fifth point is the most abstract, though it's foundational. Fundamentalists deny history in a radical and idiosyncratic way. Fundamentalists know as well or better than anybody that culture shapes everything it touches: The times we live in color how we think, what we value, and the kind of people we become. Fundamentalists agree on the perverseness of modern American society: the air of permissiveness and narcissism, individual rights unbalanced by responsibilities, sex divorced from commitment, and so on. What they don't want to see is the way culture colored the era when their scriptures were created.

http://www.uuworld.org/2004/01/feature2.html
czle77

New Malden, UK

#7 Oct 19, 2011
None because even an atheist would lie to get in power.Personally im offended that our presidents believe in fairytales when they're supposed to be the leaders of the free world,its embarrassing!
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#8 Oct 19, 2011
czle77 wrote:
None because even an atheist would lie to get in power.Personally im offended that our presidents believe in fairytales when they're supposed to be the leaders of the free world,its embarrassing!
Every single President this country has ever had believed in fairytales, why is this President any different? And yes, I agree with you, anyone, not just the President of the United states, who believes in fairytales is cause for embarrassment.

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#9 Oct 19, 2011
blacklagoon wrote:
It should be a huge consideration. I don't want a president that thinks that every time we go to war, we have Jesus on our side, or consider any war a "holy war" History has shown us where that leads. I don't want a President so ignorant of science that they believe the earth is only 2,000 years old, and that dinosaurs walked among us.
I think dinosaurs did walk among some of us. Rick Perry, Michele Bachmann, and Sarah Palin seem to have picked up some of their traits.

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#10 Oct 19, 2011
True Christian wrote:
It is the Muslim belief they are fighting their Holy War for their god Allah and his supremecy or sovereignty of this earth.
America is a nation that is estblished on the belief that the majority of Americans are Christians therefore under the guidance and protection of the Christian Trinity god, Jesus.
Being identified as one nation under God has always meant that this nation is Christian, even if in name only.
In a word, BULLPOOP!

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