Judge overturns California's ban on s...

Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201888 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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blue duck

Gardnerville, NV

#228038 Jan 17, 2014
I just picked up the 7 - 10 split. Has the lobotomy affected your vision?
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228040 Jan 17, 2014
KiMare wrote:
Science is allowing older and older couples to bear children.
Ss couples? Zero.
Many infertile couples have corrective surgery that enables them to bear children.
Ss couples? Zero.
Many couples that were not going to procreate, change their minds and become parents.
Ss couples? Zero.
96% of marriages historically include children.
Ss couples? Zero.
Don't you think we should require ss couples to mutually procreate at least SOME of the time???
Smirk.
Marriages where procreation is required: Zero
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228041 Jan 17, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You lie again.
Gays are not denied marriage for the 'sole reason that they are gay'.
Can you not post and be honest? Is your defense so weak it must be cloaked in distortion and deceit???
Sad.
So weak? Who didn't prove their case in Prop 8 litigation? This matter has been litigated and it is over. These are the finding of facts in this case:

Marriage is a civil, not religious, matter.[94]:FOF 19 p.60
How the State defines civil marriage.[94]:FOF 34, p.67
Sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of sexual, affectional or romantic desires for and attractions to men, women or both sexes. An individual’s sexual orientation can be expressed through self-identification, behavior or attraction.[94]:FOF 43, p.71–72
Individuals do not generally choose their sexual orientation. An individual does not, through conscious decision, therapeutic intervention or any other method, change sexual orientation.[94]:FOF 46, p.74
The State has no interest in asking gays and lesbians to change their orientation or in reducing the number of gays and lesbians in California.[94]:FOF 47, p.76
Marriage has benefits which the State and individuals gain from, which apply to same and opposite sex marriage alike.[94]:FOF 35–41, p.67–71
Same sex couples are identical to opposite sex couples in terms of characteristics relevant to successful marriage and union.[94]:FOF 48, p.79
Marrying a person of the opposite sex is an unrealistic option for gays and lesbians.[94]:FOF 51, p.79
Domestic partnerships lack the social meaning associated with marriage.[94]:FOF 52, p.80
Marriage of other groups, controversial on comparable grounds at the time, such as race or ethnicity, has not reduced the "vibrancy" or importance of marriage as a social institution, although many people raised concerns of its degradation at the time.[94]:FOF 66–67, p.66
The costs and harm (to the State and to lesbians and gays) resulting from denial of marriage to same-sex couples.[94]:FOF 64–68, p.77–78
A parent's gender is not a factor in a child's adjustment. An individual's sexual orientation does not determine whether that individual can be a good parent. Children raised by gay or lesbian parents are as likely as children raised by heterosexual parents to be healthy, successful and well-adjusted.[94]:FOF 70, p.95
Gay and lesbian adoption is widespread and is supported and encouraged in California law, providing evidence concerning same sex couples and parenting, with around 18% of same sex couples in California raising children.[94]:FOF 69–73, p.94–96 As a corollary, this provides evidence of fact that Proposition 8 is not rationally connected to improving parenting, since it makes no attempt to amend or revoke state approval of any aspect of parenting by non-married same sex couples.[94]:Pp.Int. 3 p.127–128
Gays and lesbians have a long history of being victims of discrimination.[94]:FOF 74, p.96
Religious beliefs that gay and lesbian relationships are sinful or inferior to heterosexual relationships harm gays and lesbians.[94]:FOF 77, p.101
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228042 Jan 17, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You lie again.
Gays are not denied marriage for the 'sole reason that they are gay'.
Can you not post and be honest? Is your defense so weak it must be cloaked in distortion and deceit???
Sad.
Looks like your side is the weak side.... or better yet, the liar side.
kookaa

Long Beach, CA

#228043 Jan 17, 2014
the buzzards are continuing to circle over this post.......
Spare

La Puente, CA

#228044 Jan 17, 2014
It's all in the wrist # 228043
sonam09693691543

Fujairah, UAE

#228045 Jan 18, 2014
hlo
Jake

Los Angeles, CA

#228046 Jan 18, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
What the hell does the "waitress" lie have to do with a frivolous law suit? You can't sue someone for not tipping.
And as far as this nebulous comment goes:
"the two idiots that sued a NY taxi company for another made up B.S. lie"
Do you have any idea how often that happens? Could you be more specific?
In law, frivolous litigation is the practice of starting or carrying on lawsuits that, due to their lack of legal merit, have little to no chance of being won. Your side knows it hasn't a chance, and now, because of the stupidity of homophobes, when the 10th Circuit Court rejects the state's claim, gay marriage will become legal in every State in the 10th Circuit, not just Utah.
How more specific can I be. I am only couter acting to your accusation of frivolous law suits by hetero's. Take your fat head out of your ass !
Spare

La Puente, CA

#228048 Jan 18, 2014
It should be, that's the best angled point #228046

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#228049 Jan 18, 2014
KiMare wrote:
Science is allowing older and older couples to bear children.
Ss couples? Zero.
Many infertile couples have corrective surgery that enables them to bear children.
Ss couples? Zero.
Many couples that were not going to procreate, change their minds and become parents.
Ss couples? Zero.
96% of marriages historically include children.
Ss couples? Zero.
Don't you think we should require ss couples to mutually procreate at least SOME of the time???
Smirk.
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
Marriages where procreation is required: Zero
Hey you brought the issue up. If you want to honestly equate to marriage, ss couples should at least match old couples, sick couples and couples with a choice. That's more than fair!

Smirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#228050 Jan 18, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You lie again.
Gays are not denied marriage for the 'sole reason that they are gay'.
Can you not post and be honest? Is your defense so weak it must be cloaked in distortion and deceit???
Sad.
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
So weak? Who didn't prove their case in Prop 8 litigation? This matter has been litigated and it is over. These are the finding of facts in this case:
Marriage is a civil, not religious, matter.[94]:FOF 19 p.60
How the State defines civil marriage.[94]:FOF 34, p.67
Sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of sexual, affectional or romantic desires for and attractions to men, women or both sexes. An individual’s sexual orientation can be expressed through self-identification, behavior or attraction.[94]:FOF 43, p.71–72
Individuals do not generally choose their sexual orientation. An individual does not, through conscious decision, therapeutic intervention or any other method, change sexual orientation.[94]:FOF 46, p.74
The State has no interest in asking gays and lesbians to change their orientation or in reducing the number of gays and lesbians in California.[94]:FOF 47, p.76
Marriage has benefits which the State and individuals gain from, which apply to same and opposite sex marriage alike.[94]:FOF 35–41, p.67–71
Same sex couples are identical to opposite sex couples in terms of characteristics relevant to successful marriage and union.[94]:FOF 48, p.79
Marrying a person of the opposite sex is an unrealistic option for gays and lesbians.[94]:FOF 51, p.79
Domestic partnerships lack the social meaning associated with marriage.[94]:FOF 52, p.80
Marriage of other groups, controversial on comparable grounds at the time, such as race or ethnicity, has not reduced the "vibrancy" or importance of marriage as a social institution, although many people raised concerns of its degradation at the time.[94]:FOF 66–67, p.66
The costs and harm (to the State and to lesbians and gays) resulting from denial of marriage to same-sex couples.[94]:FOF 64–68, p.77–78
A parent's gender is not a factor in a child's adjustment. An individual's sexual orientation does not determine whether that individual can be a good parent. Children raised by gay or lesbian parents are as likely as children raised by heterosexual parents to be healthy, successful and well-adjusted.[94]:FOF 70, p.95
Gay and lesbian adoption is widespread and is supported and encouraged in California law, providing evidence concerning same sex couples and parenting, with around 18% of same sex couples in California raising children.[94]:FOF 69–73, p.94–96 As a corollary, this provides evidence of fact that Proposition 8 is not rationally connected to improving parenting, since it makes no attempt to amend or revoke state approval of any aspect of parenting by non-married same sex couples.[94]:Pp.Int. 3 p.127–128
Gays and lesbians have a long history of being victims of discrimination.[94]:FOF 74, p.96
Religious beliefs that gay and lesbian relationships are sinful or inferior to heterosexual relationships harm gays and lesbians.[94]:FOF 77, p.101
You lie about the argument, and then ignore that and make another whining, deceitful rant.

Can you not post and be honest? Is your defense so weak it must be cloaked in distortion and deceit???
Sad.
Back to CA

La Puente, CA

#228051 Jan 18, 2014
You bet Texas S is As S backwards

Houston's openly gay mayor, Annise Parker, has wedded her longtime partner at a private home in California, even as her home state of Texas bans such same-sex marriages.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#228052 Jan 18, 2014
Back to CA wrote:
You bet Texas S is As S backwards
Houston's openly gay mayor, Annise Parker, has wedded her longtime partner at a private home in California, even as her home state of Texas bans such same-sex marriages.
ss marriage is an oxymoron.

Leave it to CA to embrace denial once again...

SMirk.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228053 Jan 18, 2014
Jake wrote:
<quoted text>
How more specific can I be. I am only couter acting to your accusation of frivolous law suits by hetero's. Take your fat head out of your ass !
Frivolous lawsuits by heteros? Huh?

What does the waitress story have to do with a frivolous lawsuit? There was no lawsuit.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228054 Jan 18, 2014
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
ss marriage is an oxymoron.
Leave it to CA to embrace denial once again...
SMirk.
The denial is all yours, KiMerde.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228055 Jan 18, 2014
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
You lie again.
Gays are not denied marriage for the 'sole reason that they are gay'.
Can you not post and be honest? Is your defense so weak it must be cloaked in distortion and deceit???
Sad.
<quoted text>
You lie about the argument, and then ignore that and make another whining, deceitful rant.
Can you not post and be honest? Is your defense so weak it must be cloaked in distortion and deceit???
Sad.
Look, dummy. What I posted are the findings of fact from the Prop 8 case. You know, the one SCOTUS allowed to stand.?... How is that deceitful... it's public record... check for yourself.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#228056 Jan 18, 2014
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
Science is allowing older and older couples to bear children.
Ss couples? Zero.
Many infertile couples have corrective surgery that enables them to bear children.
Ss couples? Zero.
Many couples that were not going to procreate, change their minds and become parents.
Ss couples? Zero.
96% of marriages historically include children.
Ss couples? Zero.
Don't you think we should require ss couples to mutually procreate at least SOME of the time???
Smirk.
<quoted text>
Hey you brought the issue up. If you want to honestly equate to marriage, ss couples should at least match old couples, sick couples and couples with a choice. That's more than fair!
Smirk.
Procreation isn't required of ANY couple.

I brought the issue up? Are you kidding me? You've been posting on Topix for months on end, continually whining about gay marriage and anal sex. You have issues, dude. Mental health issues.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#228057 Jan 18, 2014
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>Procreation isn't required of ANY couple.
I brought the issue up? Are you kidding me? You've been posting on Topix for months on end, continually whining about gay marriage and anal sex. You have issues, dude. Mental health issues.
Oh the irony.
Frankie Rizzo

Dallas, TX

#228058 Jan 18, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh the irony.
PS I p the bed.
Helix sets

La Puente, CA

#228059 Jan 18, 2014
If you have never has a Helix then it's better than the Glove of fingers #228058

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