Kris Skrinak: Give gas to waste proposal a chance

We have the utmost respect for Santa Cruz County officials, but AdaptiveArc is disappointed to hear that they will recommend not moving forward with our gift of environmental technology for Santa Cruz County. Full Story
Bruce

Walnut Creek, CA

#1 Nov 16, 2008
Eliminate the entire 175 tons per day? What becomes of the scrubbed-out toxins and left over ash? 100% elimination does not sound right.
Kris

United States

#2 Nov 16, 2008
Bruce wrote:
Eliminate the entire 175 tons per day? What becomes of the scrubbed-out toxins and left over ash? 100% elimination does not sound right.
Unlike incineration, gasification involves bringing waste to very high temperatures in the absence of oxygen. Consequently combustion can not occur: materials are broken down to their primary elements, mostly carbon, hydrogen and oxygen which can be recombined into a synthetic natural gas.

There's no magic. What goes in comes out. The ash consists of all the other elements in their inert state. This makes it easy to extract valuable metals and toxic elements such as lead and cadmium which would otherwise end up in the landfill. The residual ash has many uses such as flyash for concrete, a high-nitrogen soil conditioner or as other building materials.

Unconditioned waste degrades into long-chain toxins, VOCs, methane and other hazardous air pollutants.. The EPA conceeds that every landfill will leach to the water table. All this can be avoided by eliminating the source.
Don Heichel

United States

#3 Nov 18, 2008
Kris,

What Santa Cruz officials are against this trial?

Have they read your article?

Are they aware your process can lead to ethanol production too?
Harrison R

Oakland, CA

#4 Nov 20, 2008
Initially, the entire Board was enthusiastic towards the proposed project. Unfortunately, the company was met with an uninformed, very vocal local opposition which spread alarmist arguments and equated the technology with mass burn incineration. Individually, the Supervisors still favor the local use of the technology and are willing to reconsider the matter when the pertinent data become available.
Seaseal

Aptos, CA

#5 Nov 24, 2008
I am a Horticulture Student, a Pajaro Valley local, and unlike what Kris would like to think, I'm very well informed about gasification.

Our argument was simple: show us the data. Kris was unable (or unwilling) to do so. He could not point to a single plant operating like this in the U.S. and he could not produce data from the one plant he did identify in Monterrey, Mexico.

We are taught in school that evidence and scientific proof are important. No reasonable person will get into a project that perports to have safe effluent without proof.

Using ash with heavy metals and toxins for nitrogen fertilizer is more than dangerous. Yet Kris—who can't convince his home town to sponsor such a gasification incinerator—insists his project will produce waste safe enough to use on food production.

My guess is Kris wouldn't eat food produced with his ash because of evidence he has but won't release.

As for Harrison R's remarks, generally when people resort to name calling, their arguments aren't too solid.

By calling Watsonville's and Santa Cruz County's elected officials and civic leaders "uninformed" and to suggest they use "alarmist arguments" implies he doesn't know much about either our active community or our involved leadership.
Seaseal

Aptos, CA

#6 Nov 24, 2008
I would appreciate Kris Skrinak's comments more if he had complied with the requests for some evidence of his statements that the results of his project produce no toxins in the air.

Both the Regional Air Quality Board and the Board of Supervisors requested that evidence. None was produced.

Another issue is how much energy the technology uses to produce the high heats necessary to vaporize materials; this answer wasn't produced either.

Good business relies on honesty, responsibility, and concern for the environment. We didn't see that from Kris at all. Let some other place to the testing; our skepticism is healthy and realistic.
Harrison R

Redwood City, CA

#7 Dec 6, 2008
Seaseal-

Perhaps you misread my previous comment, but at no time did I engage in name calling. The vocal opposition to this project equated gasification with incineration, even going so far as to solicit letters from the residents of the nearby Buena Vista Labor Camp. The letters submitted to the Board of Supervisors were worded in both english and spanish, but the spanish translation referred to incineration in each of its two sentences. That seems to me a dishonest attempt to stir up opposition in the absence of truthful information.
Cecile Mills

United States

#8 Dec 29, 2008
I am a very good reader, having taught reading in addition to practicing the skill for a good many years. I'm also adept at recognizing the slight-of-hand some men like to practice when they want something.

To use plasma arc technology is to burn something. The term "incineration" is both politically and scientifically appropriate. You don't like the term because its use won't allow you to say the adaptiveArc process is entirely safe.

We who worked to stop this unproven business of Kris Skrinak's from coming into Santa Cruz County are careful, cautious, and precise.

I ask that you respect our right to reject any business with no trials, no data, and a president/CEO with no previous experience with the technology or in the field.
henry lane

Springs, South Africa

#9 Jul 15, 2013
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