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#11140 Sep 30, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>Trying to communicate with these right wing simpletons is exhausting. They are true believers. And like all true believers they are full of sh#t.Respect never really has anything to say. His only message is that unless you are committed to the anti Obama hate fest, you must be a socialist agent. These dummies don't know anything about the ACA or anything else. They think that Jesus was a a captain of industry, and wrote the constitution . This moron "Respect" lives in Denver.(or so he says) the only reason he's on this site is that he's a huge Glenn Beck fan. Which proves beyond any doubt that he's an imbecile.
I would like to ask one of these right wing stooges if they would vote for a health care plan that is the most inexpensive, inefficient on planet earth. Not to mention, one that excludes some thirty five thousand hard working Americans. Apparently they would. Because that's what we are trying to fix.
Jesus wrote the Constitution (they have no clue what it says or how it works) and killed Hitler with a bayonet.

A Glenn Beck fan? Well, that says it all.

They give lunatics a bad name.

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#11141 Oct 1, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
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How many times do I have to site it? You are a zombie: immune to fact. You just continue to spew lies.
How pathetic.
You only have to “site” once, but unfortunately for you, it will prove you’re the liar. And you agree with you… You are pathetic.

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#11142 Oct 1, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
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“LMFAO!!! Your rank stupidity is incredible. Republican Terrorists aren't attempting to pass a law through typical Constitutional processes.” Nor did your democrats when that passed OBAMACARE… Or are you too dense to find the answer as to way the vote in the house was 219-212. ALL republicans and 34 democrats voted against it. A “typical Constitutional processes.” Would NOT have allowed OBAMACARE to pass.
“That would entail a majority of the House repealing (or defunding) Obamacare, the Senate doing likewise, and the President signing the repeal (or defunding) into law. If Obama vetoed the measure, a 2/3 majority of each House of Congress would be required for the law to pass. Just like how the LAW WAS IMPLEMENTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.” Wow… A bold faced lie… You’re getting more and more brazen. Explain how a vote in the house of 219-212, was typical in passing a law? Explain who Obama is BREAKING the law by allowing extensions and Congress to be exempt to Obamacare. If it is such a wonderful law then why does Congress not participate, when it was in the LAW that they had to participate in OBAMACARE?

“Republican Terrorists aren't attempting to do that: rather, because they cannot repeal or defund the law through our Constitutional law making process, they are attempting to blackmail and terrorize the country: do what they want, or they will shut down vital government services, and eventually, default on the national debt, deliberately hurting Americans and causing an economic and financial crisis. Do what they want, or they destroy the American economy.” I want the SHUT DOWN, because a SHUT DOWN will hurt Americans less than a budget that continues to put America into more and more debt.
“For someone who claims to "love" the Constitution, you sure don't know much about it. In fact, you know nothing about it.” I am not the one who can’t explain the process by which OBAMACARE was passed and I’m not the one screaming “terrorist” with those I disagree with. The democrats are to blame for the shutdown, just like in the 90s, because of their greed of power over the American people. Same as you.
“You want me to leave America because I believe in the Constitutionally mndated law making process? Sounds like YOU are in the wrong country.” I don’t want you to leave, I was just pointing out you have a choice if you don’t like our processes. Stay… go… Either way you’re a socialist in a Country that is not made for that philosophy.

“Why don't the Republican Terrorists just demand Obama resign or they'll default on the national debt? Throw in every Democratic member of the Senate. And Biden too, of course. This way, Republicans could take over (President Boehner!!!)- f.ck these pesky elections and law making requirements of the Constitution. Then you Terrorists could repeal Obamacare, Medicare, Social Security, the GI Bill, Pell Grants, dissolve the EPA, Department of Education, eliminate corporate taxes, capital gains taxes, estate taxes, taxes on anyone making a million dollars a year or more, and throw in the elimination of the minimum wage, child labor laws, and all environmental laws and regulations? And whatever else you maniacs can think of to hurt ordinary Americans.” You are sadly ignorant, I don’t blame you, we all can see you’re a fatality of the Public School system.
I’d wish you luck, but I don’t because socialism always dies.

“You people are f.cking insane.” As we have learned, just because you say something doesn’t make it true

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#11143 Oct 1, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
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What is the Constitutional process for repealing a duly enacted law?
“What is the Constitutional process for repealing a duly enacted law?” This is the BIG picture… The US spends a TRILLION dollars MORE annually then revenues. Congress controls spending and because of the NEW burden (obamacare) set on taxpayers shoulders and FUTURE generations, it is ABSOLUTLY appropriate for congress to address this problem. ALL Americans know that America is heading for BANKRUPTCY and it will accelerate with OBAMACARE. Acting like it’s not a problem is NOT the solution. Now that it is getting so far out of control and half of Americans or takers and the other half taken from, how do we fix the problem. You don’t have a clue, so I’d prefer you say what you will and let Congress do what they are doing, because it’s appropriate for the well-being of FUTURE Americans.

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#11144 Oct 1, 2013
Ben Gleck wrote:
<quoted text>Trying to communicate with these right wing simpletons is exhausting. They are true believers. And like all true believers they are full of sh#t.Respect never really has anything to say. His only message is that unless you are committed to the anti Obama hate fest, you must be a socialist agent. These dummies don't know anything about the ACA or anything else. They think that Jesus was a a captain of industry, and wrote the constitution . This moron "Respect" lives in Denver.(or so he says) the only reason he's on this site is that he's a huge Glenn Beck fan. Which proves beyond any doubt that he's an imbecile.
I would like to ask one of these right wing stooges if they would vote for a health care plan that is the most inexpensive, inefficient on planet earth. Not to mention, one that excludes some thirty five thousand hard working Americans. Apparently they would. Because that's what we are trying to fix.
“They think that Jesus was a a captain of industry, and wrote the constitution .” I love how you post what you think we believe, to distract from what you believe.
“This moron "Respect" lives in Denver.(or so he says) the only reason he's on this site is that he's a huge Glenn Beck fan. Which proves beyond any doubt that he's an imbecile.“ I’m in Colorado… As for Beck, he is human like everyone else, some times he’s right and he’s had off moments, but at least he stand for the liberties of every individual in America… The government is TOO massive (the evidence is a 1 trillion dollar annual deficit) and to scale back to limited government is the only answer to evading our fiscal doom.

“I would like to ask one of these right wing stooges if they would vote for a health care plan that is the most inexpensive, inefficient on planet earth.” There is NOTHING the government does that is “the most inexpensive, inefficient on planet earth.” So that makes your question irrational and rhetorical.
“Not to mention, one that excludes some thirty five thousand hard working Americans. Apparently they would. Because that's what we are trying to fix.” This makes no sense college professor. Maybe you can ask CLEARLY nest time.

Jesus came to have a relationship with you and DIG… He loves you both very much.

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#11145 Oct 1, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
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Jesus wrote the Constitution (they have no clue what it says or how it works) and killed Hitler with a bayonet.
A Glenn Beck fan? Well, that says it all.
They give lunatics a bad name.
Jesus came to have a relationship with you and gleck… He loves you both very much.

I’m not a Beck fan, however, his points should be thought about. Hard for you guys to thank past your socialist ideas, I know.

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#11146 Oct 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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Nor did your democrats when that passed OBAMACARE… Or are you too dense to find the answer as to way the vote in the house was 219-212. ALL republicans and 34 democrats voted against it. A “typical Constitutional processes.” Would NOT have allowed OBAMACARE to pass.
Wow… A bold faced lie… You’re getting more and more brazen. Explain how a vote in the house of 219-212, was typical in passing a law?
I want the SHUT DOWN, because a SHUT DOWN will hurt Americans less than a budget that continues to put America into more and more debt.
I don’t want you to leave, I was just pointing out you have a choice if you don’t like our processes. Stay… go… Either way you’re a socialist in a Country that is not made for that philosophy.
You are a f.cking moron. A MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSED OBAMACARE. So what no Republicans voted for it? Show me where it says in the Constitution it says for a bill to become law, REPUBLICANS MUST SUPPORT IT.

I have to move here. You are a complete f.cking idiot. You scream about the Constitution, yet YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT HOW A BILL BECOMES LAW.

Wow!

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#11147 Oct 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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“What is the Constitutional process for repealing a duly enacted law?” This is the BIG picture… The US spends a TRILLION dollars MORE annually then revenues. Congress controls spending and because of the NEW burden (obamacare) set on taxpayers shoulders and FUTURE generations, it is ABSOLUTLY appropriate for congress to address this problem. ALL Americans know that America is heading for BANKRUPTCY and it will accelerate with OBAMACARE. Acting like it’s not a problem is NOT the solution. Now that it is getting so far out of control and half of Americans or takers and the other half taken from, how do we fix the problem. You don’t have a clue, so I’d prefer you say what you will and let Congress do what they are doing, because it’s appropriate for the well-being of FUTURE Americans.
You are an idiot. You know nothing about economics, the national debt, or budget deficits. When Obama took office, the deficit was 10% of GDP. Next year, it will be 4.4% of GDP. What was it in from q983 to 1986? You know, at the height of Reaganism? The average was about 5.5% of GDP. http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historic...
This has nothing to do with the deficit you dolt. Obamacare actually reduces the deficit from what it otherwise would be.

And if you want to pass laws to reduce the deficit, there is a Constitutional process to do that. You don't deliberately hurt people through acts of terrorism to get what you want.

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#11148 Oct 1, 2013
Oh, and before I forget, Congress and federal employees are NOT exempt from Obamacare. Just another bald faced lie by the right wing Terrorist loons who hate America and are angling for the nation's failure:

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/utica-ny/TAGO...

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#11149 Oct 1, 2013
Sorry, here's the correct link:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/...

"When Obamacare was passed into law, Sen. Charles Grassley, the Iowa Republican, attached language to the bill that mandated members of Congress and their staffers would have to buy health insurance on the newly created health insurance exchanges. What nobody accounted for at the time was that members of Congress and their staffers currently have health insurance through their employer – the federal government. No other employer has been legally required to drop its employee’s health care plan and have them buy coverage on the exchanges.

...

"What the Obama administration has done is ruled that the congressional workers will continue to receive the employer contribution to help them buy their insurance on the exchange.

"VERDICT:
False. Congress is no more exempt than any other employer who drops coverage and then helps employees purchase insurance on the exchanges."

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#11150 Oct 1, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
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You are a f.cking moron. A MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSED OBAMACARE. So what no Republicans voted for it? Show me where it says in the Constitution it says for a bill to become law, REPUBLICANS MUST SUPPORT IT.
I have to move here. You are a complete f.cking idiot. You scream about the Constitution, yet YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT HOW A BILL BECOMES LAW.
Wow!
“You are a f.cking moron.” Nice… I bet you kiss your mom with that mouth.

“A MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES PASSED OBAMACARE.” The question is WHY???… Why did the vote turn out that way with very little debate and republicans had no chance to filibuster (which is part of our constitutional process) that you claim you love?

“So what no Republicans voted for it? Show me where it says in the Constitution it says for a bill to become law, REPUBLICANS MUST SUPPORT IT.” The problem I have with this law is it was Democrats and democrats ALONE who decided what was “good for the Country” Spending wage earning Americans for generations to come for this poor bill. NOW Obama have exepted Congress and staff from this bill! Why? Because they would have to pull more money from their already thick pocketbooks to participate in OBAMACARE! So they cried to the president and threw tantrums like they did last night, until obama said, fine you’re exempt!

You said you don’t like Congress as being exempt? Are you lying about that too? You do know that part of the reason the government is shut down is because republicans are saying Congress HAS TO PARTICIPATE in Obamcare, don’t you? Of course you don’t… Too busy watch msnbc or npr, and they absolutely won’t tell you that.

“I have to move here. You are a complete f.cking idiot. You scream about the Constitution, yet YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT HOW A BILL BECOMES LAW.” Sigh… You really don’t know how it all came down do you?

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#11151 Oct 1, 2013
The problem is I give Dig too much credit...

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#11152 Oct 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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Why did the vote turn out that way with very little debate and republicans had no chance to filibuster (which is part of our constitutional process) that you claim you love?
Number 1, the FILIBUSTER IS NOT PART OF THE CONSTITUTION!!! It is a Senate RULE. It's not even a law, but a RULE of the Senate.

2, the bill passed with 60 VOTES IN THE SENATE- OVER REPUBLICAN FILIBUSTER.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protecti...

Finally, since his election, the Republican Party has pursued a radical strategy of obstruction, confrontation, and contrived crisis. You'll recall Mitch McConnell's pronouncement that his number 1 priority was to make Obama a one term President. That's why when Obama proposed the ACA, even though it was almost an exact replica of Romneycare and the bill sponsored by dozens of Republicans just 20 years ago, Republicans united in opposition.

By your logic, if one party controlled 95% of the House and Senate and the Presidency, they couldn't legislate unless the minority party agreed, even if they only represented 5% of the government! What?! Party is irrelevant to the Constitutional process of legislating, which you obviously know nothing about.

You must be a troll.

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#11154 Oct 1, 2013
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Says the top troll!
Is the filibuster in the Constitution? Did the ACA pass with 60 votes in the Seneate? Is it nearly identical to Romneycare? I'm dying to know what I'm trolling about.

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#11155 Oct 1, 2013
Truth Dig wrote:
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Number 1, the FILIBUSTER IS NOT PART OF THE CONSTITUTION!!! It is a Senate RULE. It's not even a law, but a RULE of the Senate.
2, the bill passed with 60 VOTES IN THE SENATE- OVER REPUBLICAN FILIBUSTER.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protecti...
Finally, since his election, the Republican Party has pursued a radical strategy of obstruction, confrontation, and contrived crisis. You'll recall Mitch McConnell's pronouncement that his number 1 priority was to make Obama a one term President. That's why when Obama proposed the ACA, even though it was almost an exact replica of Romneycare and the bill sponsored by dozens of Republicans just 20 years ago, Republicans united in opposition.
By your logic, if one party controlled 95% of the House and Senate and the Presidency, they couldn't legislate unless the minority party agreed, even if they only represented 5% of the government! What?! Party is irrelevant to the Constitutional process of legislating, which you obviously know nothing about.
You must be a troll.
“Number 1, the FILIBUSTER IS NOT PART OF THE CONSTITUTION!!! It is a Senate RULE. It's not even a law, but a RULE of the Senate.” Sigh… It is a rule based on our Constitution.

“2, the bill passed with 60 VOTES IN THE SENATE- OVER REPUBLICAN FILIBUSTER.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protecti ...“ You didn’t read the entire article did you… That’s so smart of you… You didn’t remember Ted Kennedy’s passing? I give you way too much credit..

“Finally, since his election, the Republican Party has pursued a radical strategy of obstruction, confrontation, and contrived crisis.” Because we are a republic. So, the republicans refused any further socialist law making from democrats… So what? They can and in fact they are BOUND by their constituents to do so!

“You'll recall Mitch McConnell's pronouncement that his number 1 priority was to make Obama a one term President.” Bound by constituents.

“That's why when Obama proposed the ACA, even though it was almost an exact replica of Romneycare and the bill sponsored by dozens of Republicans just 20 years ago, Republicans united in opposition.” Like gleck you have no clue about the differences between state and federal powers, now surprising you are a fatality of the public school system.

“By your logic, if one party controlled 95% of the House and Senate and the Presidency, they couldn't legislate unless the minority party agreed, even if they only represented 5% of the government! What?!” That’s not my logic, that’s you rhetorical way of arguing something you don’t understand.

“Party is irrelevant to the Constitutional process of legislating, which you obviously know nothing about.” Says the one who is ignorant.

Care to justify Obama’s excepting Congress? I didn’t think so.

“You must be a troll.” I am American, and you are a socialist.

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#11156 Oct 1, 2013
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Is the filibuster in the Constitution? Did the ACA pass with 60 votes in the Seneate? Is it nearly identical to Romneycare? I'm dying to know what I'm trolling about.
You left out the entire process… Obamacare was pushed and forced down the American’s peoples throats with a process called RECOCILIATION… NOT TYPICAL. Much like the law FORCES you to have health insurance. You better go get some or you are TAXED! Obamacare is NOT Romney care in that it is a FEDERAL program and NOT and STATE program… TWO VERY DIFFERENT powers… And now because of how EXPENSIVE it is Obama is allowing Congress to be EXEMPT from OBAMACARE! Care to comment? Doubtful.

I guess you’ll have to go get yourself a seat now? No American would elect you.
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#11157 Oct 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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You left out the entire process… Obamacare was pushed and forced down the American’s peoples throats with a process called RECOCILIATION… NOT TYPICAL. Much like the law FORCES you to have health insurance. You better go get some or you are TAXED! Obamacare is NOT Romney care in that it is a FEDERAL program and NOT and STATE program… TWO VERY DIFFERENT powers… And now because of how EXPENSIVE it is Obama is allowing Congress to be EXEMPT from OBAMACARE! Care to comment? Doubtful.
I guess you’ll have to go get yourself a seat now? No American would elect you.
Why do you keep arguing with petty unrealistic potatoes?
Ben Gleck

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#11158 Oct 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
The problem is I give Dig too much credit...
No, the problem is that Truth Dig has you by about forty IQ points. And he tells the truth. You are a phony sack of crap! Tell us again how Jesus did not advocate feeding the hungry and healing the sick.
Tell us again how anyone who doesn't hate Health reform is not an American. In two years you have not made one intelligent, coherent post. You just type in what we say and add some moronic, cryptic innuendo, about Jesus and the founding fathers. You right wing imbeciles are destroying the G.O.P. And that's a shame because we need a healthy two party system. BTW, if you didn't get to this site by googling Glenn Beck, then why are you here. No, your a Beck stooge all right. And just like him you're a phony holier than thou idiot. Have a nice day.

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#11159 Oct 1, 2013
Respect71 wrote:
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“Number 1, the FILIBUSTER IS NOT PART OF THE CONSTITUTION!!! It is a Senate RULE. It's not even a law, but a RULE of the Senate.” Sigh… It is a rule based on our Constitution.
“2, the bill passed with 60 VOTES IN THE SENATE- OVER REPUBLICAN FILIBUSTER.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protecti ...“ You didn’t read the entire article did you… That’s so smart of you… You didn’t remember Ted Kennedy’s passing? I give you way too much credit..
“Finally, since his election, the Republican Party has pursued a radical strategy of obstruction, confrontation, and contrived crisis.” Because we are a republic. So, the republicans refused any further socialist law making from democrats… So what? They can and in fact they are BOUND by their constituents to do so!
“You'll recall Mitch McConnell's pronouncement that his number 1 priority was to make Obama a one term President.” Bound by constituents.
“That's why when Obama proposed the ACA, even though it was almost an exact replica of Romneycare and the bill sponsored by dozens of Republicans just 20 years ago, Republicans united in opposition.” Like gleck you have no clue about the differences between state and federal powers, now surprising you are a fatality of the public school system.
“By your logic, if one party controlled 95% of the House and Senate and the Presidency, they couldn't legislate unless the minority party agreed, even if they only represented 5% of the government! What?!” That’s not my logic, that’s you rhetorical way of arguing something you don’t understand.
“Party is irrelevant to the Constitutional process of legislating, which you obviously know nothing about.” Says the one who is ignorant.
Care to justify Obama’s excepting Congress? I didn’t think so.
“You must be a troll.” I am American, and you are a socialist.
This is irrefutable proof you are a maniac. The filibuster *sigh* is not "based on the Constitution." If our founding fathers wanted the filibuster, they would have included it in the original document. AND THE LAW WAS PAST BY A FILIBUSTER PROOF MAJORITY YOU DOLT.

When Democrats pass a law through unimpeachable, unquestionable, constitutional processes, you say it's unfair, because now somehow our Constitution requires the MINORITY party to approve!!!

However, when Republicans engage in hostage taking, demanding their will be done EVEN WHEN THEY CANNOT IMPLEMENT THEIR AGENDA THROUGH OUR CONSTITUTIONALLY MANDATED PROCESS, you say BRAVO!!! Who needs the rule of law when you can use terrorism!

Obamacare is the law of the land. It became law by our Constitutionally defined process: Majority of the House; Majority (SUPER MAJORITY) in the Senate; signed by the President.

Lunatic Republicans can't stand our Constitution. They hate Obamacare, and because they cannot repeal the law through our Constitutionally defined process, they use blackmail.

But the country is on to you maniacs. You've finally jumped the shark.

Oh, as the link above showed, Congress is not exempt from Obamacre. Just another right wing lie being spewed to gin up hatred. My God, do you lunatics ever tire of lying and hating?

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