King's legacy still cause of debate

Jan 19, 2014 Full story: USA Today 1,088

It is a large legacy that looms over the past five decades, from the prophetic "I Have a Dream" speech delivered during the March on Washington to his last campaign taking a stand for underpaid black sanitation workers in Memphis, the city where he was slain.

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“PantsUpDontLOOT”

Since: Mar 10

Huntington, NY

#420 Jan 26, 2014
Truth Factor

Oaxaca, Mexico

#421 Jan 26, 2014
I find it hilarious that my posts are being erased. Evidently someone doesnt want the truth about the kingfish whoremonger exposed. King along with his father were both born Micheal King. Hower his father went to visit his NAZI friend Adolph Hitler in 1939 and changed both of their names. The father was a Nazi sympathizer and raised King Jr accordingly. Jr skipped several tears of high school and never graduated but managed to snake his way into come 2 bit negro coolege that gave him the Reverand title. After that he slid in another negro cooncage and showed up with a Doctor title. Thats is so crazy its pathetic. A doctor that never went to high school hahaha! Armed with those false credentials he became the blabbering negro whoremonger that ever lived. Spreading communism from coast to coast. This info is being swept under the rug as hes worshipped like some nessiah hahaha. James Earl Ray shoulda popped him years earlier and spared us of all the fake ass bs we are forced to endure as his followers shout and rant.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#422 Jan 27, 2014
Abdurratln wrote:
<quoted text>
tHIS IS ABOUT THE UGLIEST DANG Libyan I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =FmIRYvJQeHMXX&feature=pla yer_detailpage
he posts this in reply to my comment that the Libyan insurgency was started by Libyans, not Obama or NATO; and that it was Libyans who killed the Colonel,
But this post is IRRELEVANT, and simply changes the subject. Abdurratin again commits the fallacy of Red Herring.
SadButTrueHD

Chantilly, VA

#423 Jan 27, 2014
I Have A Nightmare wrote:
Dr. King would be horrified at how the African-American community has "progressed" in the decades following his death. A few black leaders like Dr. Ben Carson and Col. Alan West may be able to help, but the mainstream liberal-left racist press just won't let it happen. No "free stuff" proposed by those guys. Liberals want them to remain on the plantation where they can be controlled.
MACEO

What did he do?

Nothing!

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#425 Jan 27, 2014
RayOne wrote:
The MARXIST AGENDA will soon transition into FASCISM.<quoted text>
What exactly is the "Marxist Agenda"? And in what way does it translate into fascism? Fascism is a right wing form of totalitarianism which Big business tends to support as a counter to Communism, socialism, trade unionism and even liberalism (which both Hitler and Mussolini saw as a stepping stone toward Communism. Marxists emphasize class--sometimes to the point of class reductionism. Fascists emphasize nation as primary and are RIGHT WING nationalists; often racism is an essential part of their ideology as well.
Marxists tend to emphasize "proletarian internationalism," sometimes to the point of disregarding popular nationalist sentiments (which are then exploited by reactionaries and fascists)

How would the "Marxist agenda" of a democratic socialist like Rosa Luxemburg coincide with agenda of a Lenin whose authoritarianism Rosa severely attacked?
How does the agenda of "Marxist humanists" coincide with the agenda of orthodox Marxist Leninists?
I get the impression that this poster and many others don't have even a rudimentary knowledge of Marx or Marxism of any sort.
And this ignorance is BLATANTLY obvious in those idiotic posters who think that Martin Luther King was a Communist,

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#426 Jan 27, 2014
Truth Factor wrote:
I find it hilarious that my posts are being erased. Evidently someone doesnt want the truth about the kingfish whoremonger exposed. King along with his father were both born Micheal King. Hower his father went to visit his NAZI friend Adolph Hitler in 1939 and changed both of their names. The father was a Nazi sympathizer and raised King Jr accordingly. Jr skipped several tears of high school and never graduated but managed to snake his way into come 2 bit negro coolege that gave him the Reverand title. After that he slid in another negro cooncage and showed up with a Doctor title. Thats is so crazy its pathetic. A doctor that never went to high school hahaha! Armed with those false credentials he became the blabbering negro whoremonger that ever lived. Spreading communism from coast to coast. This info is being swept under the rug as hes worshipped like some nessiah hahaha. James Earl Ray shoulda popped him years earlier and spared us of all the fake ass bs we are forced to endure as his followers shout and rant.
This loon must come from planet Neptune. Dr. King's own UNIVERSITY professors talk about their impressions of him as a student, have even written about this, and "Truth Factor" claims he never went to high school. And that King's dad was a friend of Hitler who visited the Fuhrer! LOL! Strange that King's transcripts, the records of his professors and NO Kind scholar whom I've encounter verify or even I suspect heard of any of this.. Notice the poster offers NO scholarly sources. In fact, he offers no sources at all. I suspect it is all the fabrication of his crystal Meth addicted brain.

“I support Cystic Fibrosis.”

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#428 Jan 27, 2014
TopDog62961 wrote:
<quoted text>
Noticed that about you, too,....dopey.
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TQCPPTT6PFOC7...
LMAO that account is not even a month old and it already has 500 comments?

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#429 Jan 27, 2014
TopDog62961 wrote:
<quoted text>
Noticed that about you, too,....dopey.
<quoted text>
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TQCPPTT6PFOC7...
In fact, I quote scholarly sources quite often--giving titles, authors and page numbers. Naturally, you CAN'T do that. You can only post links to Youtube and old treads which have nothing to do with the discussions on the table.

“PantsUpDontLOOT”

Since: Mar 10

Huntington, NY

#430 Jan 27, 2014
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>
What exactly is the "Marxist Agenda"? And in what way does it translate into fascism? Fascism is a right wing form of totalitarianism which Big business tends to support as a counter to Communism, socialism, trade unionism and even liberalism (which both Hitler and Mussolini saw as a stepping stone toward Communism. Marxists emphasize class--sometimes to the point of class reductionism. Fascists emphasize nation as primary and are RIGHT WING nationalists; often racism is an essential part of their ideology as well.
Marxists tend to emphasize "proletarian internationalism," sometimes to the point of disregarding popular nationalist sentiments (which are then exploited by reactionaries and fascists)
How would the "Marxist agenda" of a democratic socialist like Rosa Luxemburg coincide with agenda of a Lenin whose authoritarianism Rosa severely attacked?
How does the agenda of "Marxist humanists" coincide with the agenda of orthodox Marxist Leninists?
I get the impression that this poster and many others don't have even a rudimentary knowledge of Marx or Marxism of any sort.
And this ignorance is BLATANTLY obvious in those idiotic posters who think that Martin Luther King was a Communist,
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/dinesh-dsouz...
Truth Factor

Oaxaca, Mexico

#431 Jan 27, 2014
Savant wrote:
<quoted text> This loon must come from planet Neptune. Dr. King's own UNIVERSITY professors talk about their impressions of him as a student, have even written about this, and "Truth Factor" claims he never went to high school. And that King's dad was a friend of Hitler who visited the Fuhrer! LOL! Strange that King's transcripts, the records of his professors and NO Kind scholar whom I've encounter verify or even I suspect heard of any of this.. Notice the poster offers NO scholarly sources. In fact, he offers no sources at all. I suspect it is all the fabrication of his crystal Meth addicted brain.
I have a small library at home. Two different FBI Agents wrote books about that nasty son of a bitch. Its all basically spelled out in Wikipedia you goddamn fool. Can you rerad and research the fkn creep on your own or need me to read you chapter by chapter about the whoremonger? And no matter how many negro coocage colleges spoke of the "Doctor" he never finished high school just like I said! Take that false illusion and cram it up your ass idiot!

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#432 Jan 27, 2014
All will be explained tomorrow.

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#433 Jan 27, 2014
Yes, the fascists are out in force... and that is what these scum are... fascists. It is FASCISTS who scream "communism" every time you want to give a food stamp to a hungry child or make college affordable to a poor student.

That's really all they've got... because in dealing with facts and reality they cannot win an argument. What policies do they have? Trickle-down? LOL...

They are fascists, therefore enemies of democracy, and traitors.

Since: Oct 08

Alpharetta, GA

#435 Jan 27, 2014
are you libs excited about the SOTU speech? I think this will be where he announces that he no longer needs congress, he's decided to make all the decisions himself. If there is any outcry from the audience, his Louis farrakan bodyguards will step forward and form a wall for him to walk back to his palace unharmed.
ICE

Richmond, IN

#436 Jan 27, 2014
I wonder if there will be a mass gay wedding at Intermission of the SOTU!

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#438 Jan 27, 2014
When the 'empty chair' goes to the teleprompter tomorrow, expect 'the authority & pen' to announce a Cypriot Personal Savings Account confiscation.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#439 Jan 27, 2014
mjjcpa wrote:
Your link is an irrelevant reply to my post #425.
As for the reactionary who feals his government NOW, let him (and YOU) read up on COINTELPRO to discern what REAL repression is about.

“PantsUpDontLOOT”

Since: Mar 10

Huntington, NY

#440 Jan 27, 2014
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>
Your link is an irrelevant reply to my post #425.
As for the reactionary who feals his government NOW, let him (and YOU) read up on COINTELPRO to discern what REAL repression is about.
It's very relevant.

We have adolph stalin in the white house.

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#441 Jan 27, 2014
Savant wrote:
<quoted text> he posts this in reply to my comment that the Libyan insurgency was started by Libyans, not Obama or NATO; and that it was Libyans who killed the Colonel,
But this post is IRRELEVANT, and simply changes the subject. Abdurratin again commits the fallacy of Red Herring.
Fool, what are you talking about? That farce in Libya, like the ones in Syria and Egypt was started by paid agents sent in by Obama and Hitlery. One of them was a known agent from CIA training grounds in Virginia. He had been a colonel in Qaddafi's army and somehow defected over to the CIA. He had lived in Virginia for something like 20 years, without a job or work. Now he is some kind of a big official in that farce of a government in Tripoli, Prime Minister or something like that. So even now, it is nothing but a CIA puppet government. And the Libyan people are still up in arms against it.. Same in Somalia.

In Egypt they are called something like "Democratic Institute" and "Republican Institute". It is not hard to figure out who they really are. They resemble "Occupy". But those thugs are all paid from various sources in the USA, probably the CIA. These are all known facts. But I do not know how "Occupy" gets paid. I have better information where it directly affects the Pan-Africanist Movement in Africa.

“Yes WE Can! Yes we Will!”

Since: Jul 07

Baltimore, Md.

#442 Jan 27, 2014
Truth Factor wrote:
<quoted text>
I have a small library at home. Two different FBI Agents wrote books about that nasty son of a bitch. Its all basically spelled out in Wikipedia you goddamn fool. Can you rerad and research the fkn creep on your own or need me to read you chapter by chapter about the whoremonger? And no matter how many negro coocage colleges spoke of the "Doctor" he never finished high school just like I said! Take that false illusion and cram it up your ass idiot!
I've done SCHOLARLY work on King, you stupid goose, I've seen his TRANSCRIPTS. I've seen courses that he took at Morehouse College (which you'd never qualify to enter), Crozer Seminary and Boston University. As for books by FBI agents--about as reliable as books writtten on Jews by Nazis given the hostility of the FBI to the Black Movement--show me some by recognized King scholars.
"Wikipedia"? Not even a real encyclopedia since anyone can publsih just about anything with no peer review.("wikpedia repeats the same old claim that Dr. King was a Republican despite the lack of evidence, and the denial of such by the King Estate and the editors of the King Papers project--and Dr. King's own words!) Most profesors don't even allow students to use Wikipedia. you have to use REAL encyclopedia.
And a bigoted miscreant who refers to an HBCU as a "negro coocage college" has already shown himself to mentally incompetent to debate me on any issue. You ignorant anthropoid.

Since: Aug 09

Saint Louis, MO

#443 Jan 27, 2014
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>
Well it wasn't the right which mobilized anti-apartheid movements in America or Europe.
The AAPRP which I helped to start was the main ideological force behind that. Of course, Karenga's defunct US tried to coopt it. At that time, they were called Nia Cultural Organization, mainly in San Diego. Plus, another gang called Trans-Africa was involved. Those were mainly detractors. The AAPRP started the whole thing long before any of those others were even heard of.
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>Liberal was a far right as the anti-apartheid activists went. And many of us (myself included) were much further to the left than were our often overly cautious liberal allies. The Right explicitly opposed the antiapartheid movement, and openly supported the apartheid regime. Reagan, of course, openly supported South Africa. In South Africa itself, the opposition to the fascistic white minority regime were (at least among the Black majority) LEFT of liberal.
Yeah. Sure. Such as Comrade Bobby Mugabe, huh?

Look, fool. The Pan-Africanist Congress in mainly and Nkrumahist organization. If you want to call Nkrumahism "left" go ahead. But I assure you that I am not "leftist" in the sense that scum like you are with your perverted "gay rights". I am still a theist and GOD-Willing, I will die a theist. By trheist I means such as Rev. Comrade Jimmy Owens who stood up against Obama and his public homosexual policies:
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Savant wrote:
<quoted text>The political right would have been the fascist white dictatorship, black reactionary Toms like Zulu Chief Buthelezi, the Dutch Reform Church, etc.
Black revolutionary youth were the catalysts of change internal to South Africa; and they did have some progressive white allies.
Yeah. Mandela was a very youthful 80s something gentle by the time he was released from prison. That whole Struggle had been going on since the time of Mahatma Gandhi in South Africa. Ever hear of the Indian National Congress? That is what inspired the African national Congress. While Nehru was definitely socialist inclined, Gandhi was anything but a "leftist". Socialism is not equivalent to "left".
Savant wrote:
<quoted text>Progress comes from the Left, not the Right. Which is why most African Americans are opposed to POLITICAL CONSERVATISM even when they are culturally conservative. Probably most of our people would want BOTH universal health care AND school prayer. Sigh.....The universal health care is cool, however.
Look. The African Nation as a whole is far from "left". We lean towards socialist economics. True. But as I said, socialism is not leftist in the sense of "gay rights" and other social perversions. That is why Egypt pretty much ran the Dummycrats and "Occupy" out of Africa. It seems to me that you and your pals also got run out of Algeria back in the day. I am sure that your "left" is one reason why. They liberated Algeria from France. And here you come with "left" crap and Eldridge and Kathleen Cleaver. You cannot show me one place in the whole African world where that crap prevails.

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