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Attorney: Few facts certain in plunge fatality

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Brett

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Oct 13, 2009
 

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Wait just a minute!! I NEVER said anything like that!! Do not put words in my mouth! I don't know who was driving just like none of you do!! The jury heard all the facts and decided. Let it be. Don't worry Jennifer, she won't "make your life hell" anymore. If it is true what you say about her trying to start things up again "right before Tom died" then why didn't you guys go to the DA with proof of that?

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Cerrillos, NM

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Brett-

You can't have it both ways. One of the two of them were driving. If you believe she is not guilty then the only other person was Tom.

We did go to the DA. We actually had several meetings. Her email was given to them. We gave them the pictures of the truck she wrecked. We gave them anything they needed. The last DA said it would be used. I don't know what happened that the DA decided not to use the information given. The last DA said to expect to testify.

The trial is over and there is nothing more that can be done other than she can face a civil case. OJ got off but ended up being found guilty in the civil case. Same thing could happen here.

When you pick a side, you choose what comes with it. If you say you were friends with both of them but believe she is not guilty, then you are saying Tom was the one driving. There wasn't a 3rd party that drove them off the cliff.
Aunt Debbie

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Jennifer_ wrote:
I am confused by the fact there are a few people who are missing the point of all of this. Penny was driving - DNA proved that.
Regardless if she meant to kill Tom or meant to kill both of them or meant to just try to pull off another accident like when she rolled the truck off of main hill road - she is responsible for her actions. No one forced her to drink at the bar. No one made her drive the truck off the cliff. She had 2 football fields worth of driving to change her mind and think of her daughter that you all say she loves so much.
All of you seem to care about her daughter but are any of you thinking if she gets off is her daughter really safe?
You say she loved Tom but she killed him. Who is to say she won't get drunk and get behind the wheel and hurt her daughter the same way she hurt Tom? Or she won't hurt someone else like a family member of yours? Are you going to be so quick to forgive when she kills your child, brother, sister etc?
Do you all know that if she just had been human enough to speak to the Granich's and tell them what she did know or say she was sorry they would have never asked the DA to prosecute? She put herself in this situation.
Those who are here defending her, 5 years from now we will see if you will still be her friend. There is a reason why those who have known her for 20 years or more want nothing to do with her. She isn't someone you can have in your life without issues. She's always played the victim even when she would fly off the handle and attack someone.
And if she is still someone that you think is worth having around, please have her move to your town so we don't have to worry about what she will do to someone else we care about.
THANK YOU JENNIFER!!!!!!

You "get" it exactly!!! Thank you. And you are right...IF she would have been HUMAN enough to speak to my brother and sister-in-law and expressed SOME KIND OF HUMAN EMOTION THAT WAS REAL, they would not have pursued a suit!

And how smart of you to bring to the fore front the possibility that she might have another "episode" and this time with her children in the car!

You must have really been through the "ringer" with the experiences you had with her. And in the court of public opinion it seems that the verdict would have been much different.

Thank you for your post!!

I thank anybody and everybody who was able to put yourselves in the parents' shoes (especially). Thank you for acknowledging other peoples feelings. I thank you for your support and most of all I
thank you all for your prayers.

God Bless all of you, even the people who feel differently than me.

Aunt Debbie
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careful. now it REALLY is slander and defamation of character...
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Oct 13, 2009
 
How unfortunate that the world will never know what truly happened that night so many years ago. Many can, have, and will assume to know precisely what happened. After three years of digging the truth was not discovered. From reading the posts in this blog it is evident that there is still much love, much hurt, and much unfortunate hatred.

I pray that each and every person affected by this tragedy will find peace in their hearts to move on and attempt to heal.

"If you forgive the failures of others, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you don't forgive others, your Father will not forgive your failures." Matthew 6:14-15

God Bless Each of You!
Aunt Debbie

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mudpool wrote:
careful. now it REALLY is slander and defamation of character...
No, it's called 1st amendment rights.
LA crime

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Oct 13, 2009
 
You might learn the definition of words before you preach.

Slander is spoken word.

Libel is for written word.
mudpool

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LA crime- you're right, but defamation covers them both, right?
Aunt deb- you're right too, maybe thanks to local lapd, it all seemed to be opinion, and not much fact...

good luck to everyone, i hope everyone finds thier way.
Aunt Debbie

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Oh heart, if one should say to you that the soul perishes like the body, answer that the flower withers, but the seed remains~Gibran

Always in my heart my precious nephew.
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Hey Jennifer and Aunt Debbie-

Don't worry we all know the truth. She really doesn't have as many friends as you might think. She sure hates you though.. I guess because you can prove what type of person she is. She likes to rant about she is such a victim.

Brett is in love with her (they are "soul mates") so he can't be objective. Notice how many of these posts he was on here attacking people and defending his black widow's honor. Sad really if you think about it. There aren't enough single women in the world to find one who wasn't tried for killing her husband?

All I can say to those in Los Alamos is to watch for her driving drunk it is bound to happen sooner or later.

It is actually sad that she doesn't realize how many people pretend to be her friend when they actually are not. Clueless I suppose.

Jennifer might be brave enough to post her name but in order to get the dirt, I have to keep myself hidden. I just wanted Jennifer and Aunt Debbie to know there are more of us than you might realize.
Brett

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Typical
Brett

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Tonya, you should try a little harder to conceal your identity. Just cuz you are with your parents in Denver doesn't mean that you can hide. I guess you fell asleep during the covert class for security at the lab. Oh yeah I'm sorry you got fired from that job and are being investigated. Was it the selling of the drugs or the buying that got you in trouble? I forget
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My name is not Tonya. Try again.... though glad to know one more person who is on the inside. Brett you really shouldn't get so worked up over this. Since you want to move back to be with her, you might have to get a tougher skin. It is going to be a long life of defending her if anytime you see something negative you get so worked up that you spend all your time online making comments.
Brett

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Just sayin..... have a nice day
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Reading all your posts about people spreading rumors and how they should be ashamed and then you come on here and say that someone got fired, is selling or using drugs? Wow you really are pathetic. Sounds like you two are made for one another. You better stop "just sayin..." because you are making yourself look more and more like a complete jerk. It really shows your true person. Every time you post something new, it just looks like you have mental issues of your own.
Brett

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Always warned her about you. Just defending someone I believe in. Not spreading rumors, just getting all the truths out that's all.
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you left after high school... we didn't! you don't know the TRUTH, we do.
A friend to them both

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Oct 18, 2009
 
Brett,

As far as the warning to P, you were right in the case of the person you mentioned. Those with glass houses should not cast stones. That includes us brother. We have our own.

But friend, it's time to leave these people to their hate. Fighting on the internet is pointless. That town is far to narrow minded, and has been doing it for too long to change their ways now. Much less change their minds just because the jury found what they didn't want to hear.

There are more productive things to be doing now. Like rebuilding a life after four long years. And that goes for all parties involved.

Hopefully see you soon.
mudpool

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Oct 23, 2009
 
Brett wrote:
Tonya, you should try a little harder to conceal your identity. Just cuz you are with your parents in Denver doesn't mean that you can hide. I guess you fell asleep during the covert class for security at the lab. Oh yeah I'm sorry you got fired from that job and are being investigated. Was it the selling of the drugs or the buying that got you in trouble? I forget
That's funny. that was exactly what i was thinkin.
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