Carroll Valley killing suspect known ...

Carroll Valley killing suspect known as 'King of Goths'

There are 48 comments on the Evening Sun story from Jun 1, 2008, titled Carroll Valley killing suspect known as 'King of Goths'. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

Jason Reuben Armstrong was 18 when he testified as the star witness in the murder trial of Chad Franciscus, said to have killed a mild-mannered, friendly teenager whom he accosted as the youth walked home along ...

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x goth

Catonsville, MD

#23 Dec 24, 2008
I was in Reuben's scene in high school. I wouldn't say he was the "king" of much, but everyone knew him. When Reuben went to the police in 91, all of our friends split into three categories - those that thought Chad did it and that Reuben did the right thing by going to the police, those who thought Chad did it and that Reuben did the WRONG thing by going to the police (!), and those who thought Reuben did it and framed Chad. The sad truth is that, if Chad did it, he showed Reuben the body to impress him. He may even have done it to impress him. And that's because Reuben was all about trying to make people think he was psycho. Well, it caught up to him. I hope his victim(s?) rests in peace, and that we all rest a little easier knowing it can't happen again. Merry Christmas, old friends.
112234jkl

Montpelier, VT

#24 Jan 8, 2009
I knew Reuben well in State College. He was out of control and unpredictable. He could act like he honestly liked you, but if drunk, he could lash out in a frenzied rage that left you feeling like your life was in danger. Once he attacked a friend of his for no real reason. Three of us guys had to pull him off. The brawl left us all injured. We could not subdue him. The police showed up, since this was in a parking lot, then Reuben changed. He was totally calm and emotionless. He called the officers "Sir" rather easily. He was so good at the deceit, that the police nearly arrested us instead of him, and we only wanted to save our friend.
fairfield

Carlisle, PA

#25 Jan 9, 2009
112234jkl wrote:
I knew Reuben well in State College. He was out of control and unpredictable. He could act like he honestly liked you, but if drunk, he could lash out in a frenzied rage that left you feeling like your life was in danger. Once he attacked a friend of his for no real reason. Three of us guys had to pull him off. The brawl left us all injured. We could not subdue him. The police showed up, since this was in a parking lot, then Reuben changed. He was totally calm and emotionless. He called the officers "Sir" rather easily. He was so good at the deceit, that the police nearly arrested us instead of him, and we only wanted to save our friend.
why don't they just do in with that s o b once and for all.do everyone a favor.
Shannon

Gettysburg, PA

#26 Feb 11, 2009
My boyfriend who is a few years younger than Chad grew up down the street from where Chad and some of his friends hung out..and My boyfriend was never quite sure of his guilt..and I think that from what I read that the case was flimsy from the beginning and the only strong piece of so called evidence was Armstrong's testimony...and apparently at the time he had told other people about other murders he had committed where he had lived before he moved to the chester county area.

Although Chad is more than likely innocent PENNSYLVANIA will NEVER admit they were wrong or even give him an apology they never have admitted there mistakes in the past like when they let Lawrence Yunkin get off the 20 years for a crime that he initiated and enabled to happen.
BLM-92

Wayne, PA

#27 Feb 19, 2009
Dismayed and 3kidsmom - I knew the both of them also. I went to school with Rueben at Octarara and met Chad when I transferred to CASH my senior year - Rueben was ALWAYS disturbing! My group kinda let him in - Barely - on the fringe - for just a about a minute - and he would talk about drugging his mother with acid(hallucinoenics) and killing small animals - and that was more than not cool. He was scary - and for MY people to be worried about someone you KNOW something's wrong!!! I met Chad in Art Class my senior year at CASH but got to start to get to know him through two mutual friends KK and BD - He was sweet! He was kind and gentle and intelligent and interesting and compassionate. CHAD is not a killer.
RUEBEN ARMSTRONG KILLED MIKE DEVINE.
RUEBEN ARMSTRONG KILLED BOSLEY.
WHO ELSE DID RUEBEN ARMSTRONG KILL????
p.s.
Chad should be released next year. I remember the day they arrested him - I have had two children, a career, a whole life since that day. Chad has been a prisoner for our whole adulthood. Whatever "judge" put him away - you're a blind asshole - I hope somehow you suffer a loss just as tragic as Chad's you F*cker.
BLM-92

Wayne, PA

#28 Feb 19, 2009
x goth wrote:
I was in Reuben's scene in high school. I wouldn't say he was the "king" of much, but everyone knew him. When Reuben went to the police in 91, all of our friends split into three categories - those that thought Chad did it and that Reuben did the right thing by going to the police, those who thought Chad did it and that Reuben did the WRONG thing by going to the police (!), and those who thought Reuben did it and framed Chad. The sad truth is that, if Chad did it, he showed Reuben the body to impress him. He may even have done it to impress him. And that's because Reuben was all about trying to make people think he was psycho. Well, it caught up to him. I hope his victim(s?) rests in peace, and that we all rest a little easier knowing it can't happen again. Merry Christmas, old friends.
Dude - you KNOW Chad didn't do it.

Since: Jun 08

New York

#29 Feb 26, 2009
BLM-92 wrote:
p.s.
Chad should be released next year. I remember the day they arrested him - I have had two children, a career, a whole life since that day. Chad has been a prisoner for our whole adulthood. Whatever "judge" put him away - you're a blind asshole - I hope somehow you suffer a loss just as tragic as Chad's you F*cker.
Chad will be released in October of 2011. It breaks my heart everyday when I think of the lives and blessings we have all recieved since that horrible time. Chad has spent, literally, half hisl ife in prison for a crime he did not commit. How reuben has gotten away with all he has is astouding. I pray this time all his past deeds will catch up to him and he will have to answer for what he has done.

I have known Chad since we were at Rainbow, and while I did not go on to CASH (but another school) we remain close to this day. It is nice to know he has not been forgotten, and others maintain his innocence.
BLM-92

Wayne, PA

#30 Mar 7, 2009
3kidsmom wrote:
<quoted text>
Chad will be released in October of 2011. It breaks my heart everyday when I think of the lives and blessings we have all recieved since that horrible time. Chad has spent, literally, half hisl ife in prison for a crime he did not commit. How reuben has gotten away with all he has is astouding. I pray this time all his past deeds will catch up to him and he will have to answer for what he has done.
I have known Chad since we were at Rainbow, and while I did not go on to CASH (but another school) we remain close to this day. It is nice to know he has not been forgotten, and others maintain his innocence.
I am so glad to know that you are keeping in touch with him. I hope he is doing good. Please tell him that Beth said Hello - he may not remember me but I think about him.

Since: Jun 08

New York

#31 Apr 5, 2009
BLM-92 wrote:
<quoted text> Please tell him that Beth said Hello - he may not remember me but I think about him.
Do you have a way to contact me privately? I would be glad to give you his mailing address.
Parkesburg resident

Holland, MI

#32 Apr 5, 2009
I remember when this happened. Does this mean there is yet another person sitting in prison that does not belong there, while a murderer was let go free by yet another judge who refused to allow testimony? Now someone else is dead at the hands of Ruben Armstrong.
Im sure thats reasurring to the Divine family.

Since: Jun 08

New York

#33 Apr 8, 2009
Parkesburg resident wrote:
Im sure thats reasurring to the Divine family.
I grew up in Sadsburyville, and used to babysit for Michael Devine's cousins. They are a dear, Christian family who suffered more than any family should. It is so unfortunate that the common consensus at the time was that Chad killed Michael. Those of us who knew Chad never doubted that Reuben was the murderer.
It is tragic that another family has lost a son. I pray Reuben will get what he deserves and no other family will experience pain at his hands.
john doe smith

Bellwood, PA

#34 May 25, 2009
DAMON....... I lived with both of you and had to endure the two of you having gay sex in my tub! I'm not saying that reuben wasn't crazy, but come on ,dude, you're just as nutty as him. my heart does go out to chad, who was wrongly accused, and the families of all his victims.
my name dont matter

AOL

#35 May 27, 2009
I knew reuben very well at unionville and state college. he had told me about killing other people in alvin,texas with his cousin . I was best friends with him for along time till he tried to snap on me for not taking him to the store in in state college.could never believe anything he said. he was a compulsive liar.I hope that there arent any more ruined lives
ELA

Chambersburg, PA

#36 Jun 11, 2009
WOW! Something made me decide this evening to look up Reuben and see if he had a myspace account to see what he has been up too! I used to work for Reuben in Gettysburg back in 2004 and I thought something was off but I would have never guessed any of this! He smoked alot of dope and told me some weird & creepy stories but I still can't believe any of this! And his wife was so nice too.
Joe - Octorara Grad

Leesburg, FL

#37 Nov 27, 2009
So I was going through names from my youth and I popped "Jason Reuben Armstrong" into Google. Why am I not surprised? At first I wondered if this was the same guy and little by little I read more and more that makes me say, yup. It's the same one.

I didn't have many friends at school so I'd occasionally befriend Armstrong. Ooooh, never, EVER call him Jason! Anyway, I remember he'd pick me up and throw me one minute and then the next he'd want to be my friend. He was a very strange and scary guy. He disappeared around the 7th or 8th grade.
topspinner

Denver, CO

#38 Dec 3, 2009
john doe smith wrote:
DAMON....... I lived with both of you and had to endure the two of you having gay sex in my tub! I'm not saying that reuben wasn't crazy, but come on ,dude, you're just as nutty as him. my heart does go out to chad, who was wrongly accused, and the families of all his victims.
John doe Smith - You have touched on something I have suspected can you contact me directly? Respond to this and I will post my email. This is very important for reasons that will be clear after contact.
Friend of Chad Fransiscus

United States

#40 Dec 3, 2009
I have been friends with Chad for many years before getting tied up with Reuben Armstrong and still am friends with him today. I know for fact that Chad did not kill Michael Devine I believe; in my heart that Reuben killed him. If you research both crimes they are very much alike. Beside, Reuben told a lot of people he killed Michael not Chad.
I knew Reuben for years; I went to school with him. He is sick and I am so happy that he is finally going to get his. It sucks that another life was lost because, of Reuben. He use to talk about two people he killed in Texas. I believe this guy is a serial killer. I hope Chad is released and his name cleared.
My thoughts are prayer go out to the Devine family and to the Bosley family. Reuben Armstrong will pay for what he has done and I hope in the worst way possible.
God knows what Reuben has done in his life and if the courts do not punish him, GOD WILL!!!!!!
CJS2009

Pontypridd, UK

#46 Dec 4, 2009
This is a very strange turn out – I mean Reuben testifies against Chad about a murder, Chad gets life in jail, then Reuben commits murder himself! I know allot of you don't believe Chad did it though I do. When Chad was on remand he discussed his crimes with another convict – this convict was a police snitch! I have actually seen the notes that were sent back & forth between the two – Chad made a full confession!
Did you know the guy you murdered? Did any of friends know him? Did any of your friends know that you murdered him because maybe one of them told on you?
A. I didn’t know him & I don’t think they knew him – I didn’t tell anyone what I did.
There were many more notes like this, some more revealing.
Had it not been for this evidence I wouldn’t have believed Reuben or the police snitch!
In my humble opinion Chad did this & for that he should spend the rest of his days in jail!
CJS2009

Pontypridd, UK

#48 Dec 7, 2009
Just like to add that I agree with Shannon above – even if Chad were innocent, Pennsylvania would never admit or apologise – in my opinion Pennsylvania is the most corrupt place in the world. I too remember the case of Lawrence Yunkin.
In December 1991 Lawrence Yunkin age 20 – his girlfriend Lisa Michelle Lambert age 19 & 6 months pregnant at the time & friend Tabitha Buck age 17 murdered Laurie Show age 16 by slitting her throat – there has been much speculation over the years as to who actually killed Laurie. Lisa Michelle was convicted of 1st degree murder & was sentenced to life in prison without parole, Tabby was convicted of 2nd degree murder & sentenced to life in prison without parole & Lawrence, well he had a deal of a lifetime! Initially he was charged with hindering apprehension which carries a 1 – 3 year sentence, that deal was later revoked by the DA as he lied in Lisa Michelle’s trial & he was then charged with 3rd degree murder & served 12 years of a 20 year sentence. The DA contended all along that Lawrence didn’t go into the apartment where Laurie was murdered though his earring was found in the victim’s hair!
nobody

Exton, PA

#49 Dec 11, 2009
For those of you who say he told you about other murders in Texas, contact the Brazoria County Crime Stoppers:

http://www.brazoria-county.com/crimestoppers/...

Sure, he might have just been making up stories, but if he wasn't, you might be able to point them in the right direction for a cold case.

If he did kill anyone in Texas, you might be able to help give their family closure if they can solve the murder. Just because Reuben's in jail doesn't mean he'll never get out. Plus, anyone else involved may still be on the streets!

So if he told you any stories about killing anybody, contact crime stoppers and let them decide if your information can help or not. You might have the information that could save somebody else's life!

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