There oughta be a law, boy says -- Schools, Pennsylvania

There are 45 comments on the The Morning Call story from Apr 3, 2008, titled There oughta be a law, boy says -- Schools, Pennsylvania. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Twelve-year-old Brad Vassallo of Richland Township wants to change the world. But for now he'll settle for requiring ignition interlock systems on vehicles owned or driven by first-time drunken driving ...

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Richland Resident

United States

#2 Apr 3, 2008
Kudo's to Brad. We need more people willing to stand up a say we have had enough and it's time to make a change. It's nice to see someone so young willing to do this when most adults look at situations with apathy.
Bucks County Resident

Somerville, NJ

#3 Apr 3, 2008
Good idea, there must be a reason it isn't a law yet. maybe it is cost prohibitive.
Pachacutec

Fort Collins, CO

#4 Apr 3, 2008
You hear so many stories about bad kids, this is nice to hear. This young man is concerned enough to get involved, and we need more of that. As a former volunteer emergency services worker I saw more than my share of traffic accidents involving DUI and I support anything to keep the drunks off the road.

“Here's looking at ya!”

Since: Jul 07

AOL

#5 Apr 3, 2008
Good for Brad getting involved in trying changing legislation!!! It's nice to see young people doing something good.
Herman

Allentown, PA

#6 Apr 3, 2008
This kid needs to get a life.
gretty_d

Easton, PA

#7 Apr 3, 2008
Shut up Herman. He is trying to save lives. I think that is admirable. Especially for one so young and one not affected by the actual issue. He obviously has strong convictions.

WAY TO GO BRAD!
Notsosure

Phillipsburg, NJ

#8 Apr 3, 2008
Ok, you have two glasses of wine at a restaurant and are unlucky enough to be pulled over by a cop. You're just over the legal limit and now you face all the legal and financial problems of a DUI.

The idea of this devise being installed after the FIRST OFFENSE is ridiculous. I agree - after the second offense you have demonstrated a PATTERN. But after the first offense, no pattern has been established and the scenario described above is very plausible nowadays given the lower limits.

As for the young man, I applaud his activism, but his parents may be the first victims of his zeal.

“It's Evolution Baby.....”

Since: Feb 07

Allentown Pa

#9 Apr 3, 2008
Not to discourage this kid, who I respect and admire for his diligence, the system is in its infancy and still has major limitations.

From 1800duilaws.com :

"In the future, the interlock may become an integral part of advanced driver recognition and control systems. In the meantime it is very easy for a driver to circumvent the interlock by using a different vehicle without the interlock. Accordingly, at the current stage of technological development, an offender's motivation for compliance with the interlock restriction is expected to be a prime factor in determining effectiveness."

We're headed in the right direction, but until every vehicle contains a DNA-based recognition system, the drunk who wants to drive will find a way.

But keep up the good work Brad.
Angel

East Stroudsburg, PA

#10 Apr 3, 2008
This won't pass, the state makes way too much money off drunk driving arrests. They just talk the talk that they want to deter drunk driving, but if they really wanted to, we would have a better publci transportation system, or some type of ignition interlock built into all cars. DUI arrests is a multi-million (if not more) dollar business for government and police.
Martha

Bethlehem, PA

#11 Apr 3, 2008
Look..I was'nt even drunk and I went to jail...The so called justice system reaps kazillions off the population.Why should they kill cash cows..?????Its a good thing...(for liers and judges)
Puddles

Fairport, NY

#12 Apr 3, 2008
Herman wrote:
This kid needs to get a life.
Dude... seriously? lol

What do you do that makes you think this kid needs to "get a life"?

* You're not gonna reply cause you can't.... and thats fine
TooManyDumbFuxTo Address

Philadelphia, PA

#13 Apr 3, 2008
House Bill 2019 is a waste of time.
It will never pass constitutional muster.
A better solution all around (but not likely to pass any muster) is to eliminate all DUI penalties unless someone is injured by the actions of the intoxicated driver and in that case just execute driver on the spot.
TooManyDumbFuxTo Address

Philadelphia, PA

#14 Apr 3, 2008
Angel wrote:
This won't pass, the state makes way too much money off drunk driving arrests. They just talk the talk that they want to deter drunk driving, but if they really wanted to, we would have a better publci transportation system, or some type of ignition interlock built into all cars. DUI arrests is a multi-million (if not more) dollar business for government and police.
Anyone who says that enforcement of any traffic laws is to increase revenue is experiencing a failure in their critical analysis of the situation.
Simply put the amount of money netted from traffic ticket fines is insufficient to offset the cost of the field operations that caught the offender.
voter

Emmaus, PA

#15 Apr 3, 2008
TooManyDumbFuxToAddress wrote:
House Bill 2019 is a waste of time.
It will never pass constitutional muster.
A better solution all around (but not likely to pass any muster) is to eliminate all DUI penalties unless someone is injured by the actions of the intoxicated driver and in that case just execute driver on the spot.
Stay away from the election booth.I for one do not want anyone with your kind of wisdom to vote.
Angel

East Stroudsburg, PA

#16 Apr 3, 2008
TooManyDumbFuxToAddress wrote:
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Anyone who says that enforcement of any traffic laws is to increase revenue is experiencing a failure in their critical analysis of the situation.
Simply put the amount of money netted from traffic ticket fines is insufficient to offset the cost of the field operations that caught the offender.
They do profit off of the DUI arrests. They would already be hiring and paying for the police to enforce the laws anyway. The majority of the time that a cop busts a DUI, its for some other violation. So now, instead of making $175 off an inspection sticker violation or a busted light, they are making $2,000 for the same amount of work. How is that not profiting? Lehigh County sees thousands of DUI offenders a month, multiply that by at least $2,000 a piece, that is pretty good money.
Get a Life

Catasauqua, PA

#17 Apr 3, 2008
Puddles wrote:
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Dude... seriously? lol
What do you do that makes you think this kid needs to "get a life"?
* You're not gonna reply cause you can't.... and thats fine
Go help a old lady across the street or something nice. Stay out of the politics until you're an adult. The funny part will be when he has to blow into it every day just to drive his car when he's old enough to drive.
Save the vegetables

Scranton, PA

#18 Apr 3, 2008
I appreciate the civic mindedness of this young man, but what he proposes is quite absurd.

First, there is a presumption of guilt that a driver is going to operate a vehicle under the influence of alcohol. I'm sorry, but this is clearly circumventing due process. Where does this end? This is analogous to having someone convicted of grand theft auto to have their location reported anytime they walked by or enter an automobile. This scenario could be applied to a myriad of convictions. This is also double jeopardy as a person is essentially being convicted of the same crime again.

Second, the California Department of Motor Vehicle’s “An Evaluation of the Effectiveness of Ignition Interlock in California” concluded that the devices are not effective in reducing DUI convictions or incidents for first-time DUI offenders. The study did show, however, that the risk of crashing was higher for offenders with a lock installed.

We need to stand up against these initiatives because this is another example of progressive puritanism designed to remove Constitutional rights in order to create a risk free society.
yes

Mount Aetna, PA

#19 Apr 3, 2008
Another crook in the waiting.
paul s

Wallingford, PA

#20 Apr 3, 2008
This kid should wait until he can drink or drive. He must not understand that every bar and club in the world have a parking lot, and people are going to drive there. Everyones body has a different tollerance for alcohol, so your blood alcohol level reflects on your wieght and consumption amount your alcohol tollerance. The law is crazy now,jail, fines, lawyer fees, interlock system. Thats 5 to 10,000 dollars for trying to unwind after a long week at work. not to mention the loss of most peoples livelihood, thier drivers lisence.
been there

Bethlehem, PA

#21 Apr 3, 2008
I have had an interlock device on my car for almost a year.It is honestly a better way to show someone what it means to drive responsiblly.I believe that it should be used as punishment/rehab for 1st time offenders depending on their BAC at the time of their offense.Instead of suspending someone's driving privileges completely for say,6 months, they should be required to have the interlock system installed for that period.People with a suspended licenses are not permitted to drive..it doesn't stop them from drinking..the interlock system is a wake-up call to responsible driving.

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